Gran Turismo 7: Latest news and discussion thread

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Are they really trying to claim that the N-One is the first Kei car to ever exist with FWD, a turbo, and a manual transmission? Seriously?
No I think it's just a half-omission, given the key detail is at the start of the post.
It is the first FWD Turbo 6-speed manual transmission Kei car.
Previous ones have been 5-speed mostly (I think. Not sure if 4-speed Kei cars are a thing).
 
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No I think it's just a half-omission, given the key detail is at the start of the post.
It is the first FWD Turbo 6-speed manual transmission Kei car.
Previous ones have been 5-speed mostly (I think. Not sure if 4-speed Kei cars are a thing).
Honda S660 is also 6-speed manual, isnt it? At least according to „gtplus app“ (great website btw).
 
It is, but it's also MR.

The N-One is the only one that is all of FF, turbo, 6-speed manual; which is what I think the marketing tweet is trying to convey.
That is hilariously specific. If only more people knew 😂
 
Definitely useful as I don’t have all the cars(not that I’m going to collect them all). Lets me see them without having to click all the way through to my garage. ;)

It’s almost as if the game is preparing for Greatest Hits status.
 
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Now that’s funny, road cars are categorised as “Gr.N”, sort of like GT Sport.

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Maybe they’re doing that for GT8 or as an option to select by car category in custom race? Likely not just for the latter I’d imagine.
 
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Now that’s funny, road cars are categorised as “Gr.N”, sort of like GT Sport.

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Maybe they’re doing that for GT8 or as an option to select by car category in custom race? Likely not just for the latter I’d imagine.
It's probably because of technical reasons: the group category is a required property for "cars" in gt.
If it was an optional property the game would have to check every time if this value is set and if it's set what value is it.

By making the group category non optional it makes the coding a little bit easier and (more important) less error prone
 
This is fantastic news! Now I can check a car's stock PP without having to boot the game. AND, it lets me view the cars' specs in sensible units like kg and kW. For some dog poo reason, PD thinks Singapore uses pounds for mass measurement...

I wish they could list down all the factory colours the cars come with, though. If they had that, I could achieve a clean break from the ad infested GT Wiki.
 
The Daihatsu Midget II had a 4 speed manual for its entire production run, but I suspect a RWD kei truck isn't what you meant here.
Fun fact: there’s an ultra rare 5 speed manuals out there capable of operating at US highway speeds. I can’t find any info on them, other than that one went through my local importer (and it had a few cosmetic modifications including but not limited to full astroturf flooring).

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They couldn’t even find more information on it when it passed through their hands. I’m still kicking myself for letting this slip by however many years ago.
 
I checked so you don't have to: No, they haven't accidentally leaked any cars by uploading the car thumbnails early - car3575 and every ID from 3577 on does not have an image uploaded (3576 is the N-One).

Edit: For the avoidance of doubt, there are exactly the expected number of 539 images between car24.jpg (the 180SX) and car3576.jpg (the N-One). They haven't snuck things in earlier in the range either.
 
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This is fantastic news! Now I can check a car's stock PP without having to boot the game. AND, it lets me view the cars' specs in sensible units like kg and kW. For some dog poo reason, PD thinks Singapore uses pounds for mass measurement...

I wish they could list down all the factory colours the cars come with, though. If they had that, I could achieve a clean break from the ad infested GT Wiki.
Plugging Kudos Prime and gtplus, you might find them helpful as well.

The car colours aren’t available, but they’re great for checking the car list and the specs, including the PP value.

Some PP values on Kudos Prime are not yet fully up to date after recent PP changes, but I think they’re getting updates over time.

It’s only one person running the site as far as I know, so understandably it takes time.

Not sure about PP on the gtplus front, but either way even if it’s not yet up to date, the values are a good estimate if you are quickly comparing.

It’s good to see this from PD themselves, but I just want to keep the good work of others afloat as well.

They are very useful if you want to check car (and track related with gtplus) info outside of the game.
 
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I checked so you don't have to: No, they haven't accidentally leaked any cars by uploading the car thumbnails early - car3575 and every ID from 3577 on does not have an image uploaded (3576 is the N-One).
There's quite a lot of IDs missing so I wonder what they represent. All later cars are kinda bundled together, though not in a perfect order of release (Z-Tune is 3569, for example), but there are also cars like Alfa 155 (ID 365), TT '03 (ID 959), F1 GTR (ID 216), Z4 3.0i (ID 655), Camaro Z28 (ID 31), Chevelle (ID 36), etc. The car with lowest ID I could find is 180SX (ID 24). I wonder if those IDs are what the cars recieve internally when PD start working on them? It seems to make sense at least for last added cars, though it's kinda strange how the lowest is the car added in the last "proper" GT Sport content update. And that would imply there are over 3500 entries of cars, which sounds kinda unrealistic, unless a lot of them just have an entry with a name and that's about it (which actually might be possible I guess, considering what dataminers were saying about leaked car lists, but over 3500?).

UPD: Actually, looking at the list of cars with low IDs, it seems like all those cars once were in GT3/GT4, so maybe the entries are from over 20 years ago and they just use the same ID if they update the model?
 
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There's quite a lot of IDs missing so I wonder what they represent. All later cars are kinda bundled together, though not in a perfect order of release (Z-Tune is 3569, for example), but there are also cars like Alfa 155 (ID 365), TT '03 (ID 959), F1 GTR (ID 216), Z4 3.0i (ID 655), Camaro Z28 (ID 31), Chevelle (ID 36), etc. The car with lowest ID I could find is 180SX (ID 24). I wonder if those IDs are what the cars recieve internally when PD start working on them? It seems to make sense at least for last added cars, though it's kinda strange how the lowest is the car added in the last "proper" GT Sport content update. And that would imply there are over 3500 entries of cars, which sounds kinda unrealistic, unless a lot of them just have an entry with a name and that's about it (which actually might be possible I guess, considering what dataminers were saying about leaked car lists, but over 3500?).

UPD: Actually, looking at the list of cars with low IDs, it seems like all those cars once were in GT3/GT4, so maybe the entries are from over 20 years ago and they just use the same ID if they update the model?
It'll start from GT4 and returning cars take their old slots, yeah.

The Chevelle being that low an ID means it can't be any earlier, it debuted in GT4. And I'm pretty sure I remember reading back when Nenkai was on the scene that they completely overhauled how they stored their cars between GT3/Concept and 4.
 
It'll start from GT4 and returning cars take their old slots, yeah.

The Chevelle being that low an ID means it can't be any earlier, it debuted in GT4. And I'm pretty sure I remember reading back when Nenkai was on the scene that they completely overhauled how they stored their cars between GT3/Concept and 4.
That's kinda fun to know, not really important, but fun. Also, it pretty much confirms they are not holding back any of the cars, at least none of the new to the series, and the cars are actually being released when they are done. Currently missing car 3575 will most likely show up in a next update or two (maybe it's the Xiaomi?).
 
I feel like this is an important point to make, even though it's kind of tangential: If there's any budding programmers reading this, this is exactly why publically facing incremental numbers as IDs are a bad idea. People will just change the number up and down to see what they can find.

PD did the extra work here to only make visible the stuff that should be visible, but the better solution would be to have your IDs be UUIDs/GUIDs or similar so that there's no concept of a number range to even check.
 
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