They said 1080p would be an option in all the games, I don't know if theres any game that hasn't yet? regarding the FPS, I recall them saying all Sony games will hit a certain FPS, but I can't remember what that figure was, it wasn't 180, that's more than enough, 60fps is actually enough. No, you seem to be the only one. GT mobile is not cancelled, GT:HD and GT4 Online are the only two promised that haven't turned up. You do realise that the fisr part of a games production is the hardest, also GT5 may have been worked on from 2004, but they didn't actuall start coding anything until late 2005, that's when first party developers got thier PS3 development kits. So technically they've done 20% in 1 year. You may say that's still bad but considering that that first year has been spent working on a new console, next year they should probably be able to double that work rate at least. If you have any figures to contradict this, by all means post them up. If not, don't bother trying. Yes £240, your being argumentative for the sake of it here it's obviouse he was guessing the exchange rates. The point he made still stands, £1500 for a PC to play games is a very large ammount. £1500 or near enough $3000 for a PC is a hell of a lot, simple as. There are also magazines that say otherwise, go figure. How very mature of you. I tihnk your getting fan and fanboy confused, I'm a fan of Gran Turismo, yet I wasn't all that keen on GT4 and I'm sure some members here can tell you that I can pick holes in it for hours. Again, go figure. Well I guess you succeded in lowering it beyond where the discussion was prior to that. So why start. So you try to tell somene to stop acting like a child by making a personal attack on them, someone who at this point hasn't personally attacked you. Clever. And you want what exactley for telling us this? Who's experience, yours. What the hell does yours, his or my own experince have to do with PD, Sony, PS3 and GT5? I'm sure he did, and like me I'm sure he didn't see any personal attacks on you.