Gran Turismo Sport - fuel consumption list & tire usage

Discussion in 'Gran Turismo Sport' started by rex1825, Dec 25, 2017.

  1. rex1825

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    I have in plan to add every upcoming car and track.

    So here is how I'm doing it, in order to exclude human factor, I leave driving to AI.
    Changed track to Tokyo Expressway - East Outer Loop.
    To make it more comparable in the race car class, all cars are set to their BoP values.
    All tests were performed with Race Super Slicks (RSS) tires, every setting for car to default. No adds except ABS.

    Testing alone I let AI to do as I said, for consistency. AI drow each car 5 laps for each of the settings, times between laps were around 0.05-0.2 second difference, which is pretty good.
    After driving those laps, I just pitted car and let it refuel (while letting same fuel map on) it gave me exact amount of laps that it can do under those conditions. So there is the calculation.

    Remember: these are all approximate values, there are still possible differences here and there! Also BoP changes weight and power, so power and weight vs consumption comes in action.

    Fuel Map consumption and power differences:
    @1 - 100% power/100% range
    @2 - 96% power/112% range
    @3 - 92% power/123% range
    @4 - 88% power/135% range
    @5 - 84% power/146% range
    @6 - 80% power/158% range

    Tire compound vs range:
    RSS - 100%
    RS - 101%
    RM - 101.7%
    RH - 102.4%
    IM - 104.2%
    W - 104.5%
    SS - 104.2%
    SM - 104.5%
    SH - 105.9%
    CS - 106.3%
    CM - 108.7%
    CH - 109.4%

    Power & weight vs range:
    -20% power - 111%
    -10% power - 105%
    +10 % power - 87%
    +20% power - 77%
    -10% weight - 101%
    +10% weight - 96%

    For Drafting:
    ~ 102.5% - additional range when drafting all the time

    And here is tire degradation on dry track under full load (braking and cornering):
    RSS - 100%
    RS - 100%
    RM - 150%
    RH - 350%
    IM - 85%
    W - 65%
    SS - 250%
    SM - 320%
    SH - 435%
    CS - 335%
    CM - 450%
    CH - 765%



    Group 1 cars:

    Alpine VGT
    ~258.4km

    Audi R18 TDI '11
    ~237.3km

    Audi R18 TDI '16
    ~276.0km

    Audi VGT
    ~260.0km

    Bugatti VGT
    ~251.2km

    Dodge SRT Tomahawk VGT
    ~285.5km

    Hyundai N VGT
    ~237.3km

    Jaguar XJR-9 '88
    ~255.5km

    Mazda 787B '91
    ~237.3km

    Mazda LM55 VGT
    ~260.6km

    McLaren Ultimate VGT
    ~235.8km

    Mercedes Sauber C9 '89
    ~249.0km

    Nissan GT-R LM NISMO '15
    ~290.6km

    Nissan R92CP '92
    ~281.8km

    Peugeot 908HDi FAP '10
    ~289.1km

    Peugeot L750R Hybrid VGT
    ~244.6km

    Porsche 919 Hybrid '16
    ~265.8km

    Toyota TS030 Hybrid '12
    ~292.8km

    Toyota TS050 Hybrid '16
    ~329.3km
     
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  2. rex1825

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    Group 2 cars:

    Honda RAYBRIG NSX CONCEPT-GT '16
    ~213.2km

    Honda Epson NSX '08
    ~219.8km

    Lexus au TOM'S RCF '16
    ~223.4km

    Lexus Petronas TOM'S SC430 '08
    ~235.8km

    Nissan MOTUL AUTECH GT-R '16
    ~225.6km

    Nissan Xanavi NISMO GT-R '08
    ~222.0km



    Group 3 cars:

    Alfa Romeo 4C
    ~197.1km

    Aston Martin V12 Vantage GT3
    ~182.5km

    Audi R8 LMS WRT
    ~205.2km

    BMW M3 GT Motosport '11
    ~177.4km

    BMW M6 GT3
    ~186.9km

    BMW Z4 GT3
    ~190.6km

    Chevrolet Corvette C7
    ~166.5km

    Citroen GT
    ~186.2km

    Dodge Viper SRT GT3-R
    ~177.4km

    Ferrari 458 Italia GT3
    ~202.2km

    Ford GT LM Spec II Test Car
    ~176.0km

    Ford Mustang
    ~181.8km

    Honda NSX
    ~205.2km

    Hyundai Genesis
    ~208.8km

    Jaguar F-Type
    ~176.7km

    Lamborghini Huracan GT3
    ~203.0km

    Lexus RCF GT3 '16
    ~198.6km

    Lexus RCF GT3 '17
    ~199.3km

    Mazda Atenza
    ~200.0km

    McLaren 650S GT3
    ~208.1km

    Mercedes-Benz AMG GT GT3
    ~197.1km

    Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG GT3
    ~192.7km

    Mitsubishi Lancer Evo
    ~184.0km

    Nissan GT-R NISMO GT3
    ~193.5km

    Peugeot RCZ
    ~201.5km

    Peugeot VGT
    ~191.3km

    Porsche 911 RSR
    ~197.1km

    Renault Sport R.S.01 GT3
    ~185.4km

    Subaru WRX
    ~178.1km

    Toyota FT-1 VGT
    ~184.7km

    Toyota GR Supra Racing Concept 18'
    ~193.5km

    VW Beetle
    ~173.0km

    VW GTI VGT
    ~178.1km
     
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    Group 4 cars:

    Alfa Romeo 4C
    ~240.2km

    Aston Martin Vantage
    ~209.5km

    Audi TT Cup '16
    ~235.8km

    BMW M4
    ~177.4km

    Bugatti Veyron
    ~213.9km

    Chevrolet Corvette C7
    ~202.2km

    Citroen GT by Citroen
    ~229.3km

    Dodge Viper
    ~234.4km

    Ferrari 458 Iitalia
    ~219.0km

    Ford Mustang
    ~196.4km

    Honda NSX
    ~240.2km

    Hyundai Genesis
    ~232.9km

    Jaguar F-Type
    ~215.4km

    Lamborghini Huracan
    ~219.0km

    Lexus RCF
    ~216.8km

    Mazda Atenza
    ~242.4km

    McLaren 650S
    ~181.1km

    Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG
    ~230.0km

    Mitsubishi Lancer EVO Final Edition
    ~240.2km

    Nissan GT-R
    ~219.0km

    Peugeot RCZ
    ~228.5km

    Porsche Cayman GT4 Clubsport '16
    ~223.4km

    Renault Sport Megane
    ~233.6km

    Renault Sport Megane Trophy '11
    ~273.8km

    Subaru WRX
    ~211.8km

    Toyota 86
    ~232.2km

    VW Scirocco
    ~225.6km
     
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  4. rex1825

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    N-car class:

    N100
    Abarth 1500 Biposto Bertone B.A.T 1 '52 ~472.0km
    Abarth 500 '09 ~459.8km
    Alpine A110 1600S '72 ~317.8km
    Daihatsu Copen Active Top '02 ~726.1km
    Fiat 500 F '68 ~1502.1km
    Honda Beat '91 ~490.6km
    Honda S660 '15 ~762.2km
    Mazda Roadster S (ND) '15 ~383.7km
    Mini Cooper S '65 ~549.1km
    Porsche 356 A/1500 GS GT Carrera Speedster '56 ~346.6km
    Suzuki Swift Sport '07 ~408.6km
    VW Sambabus Typ 2 (T1) '62 ~1034.6km
    VW 1200 '66 ~705.6km
    Toyota S-FR '15 ~360.3km

    N200
    Alfa Romeo 4C Launch Edition '14 ~256.3km
    Alfa Romeo MiTo 1.4T Sport '09 ~341.8km
    BMW M3 Sport Evolution '89 ~248.0km
    Citroen DS3 Racing '11 ~331.5km
    Honda Integra Type R (DC2) '98 ~329.9km
    Lancia Delta HF Integrale Evo '91 ~277.8km
    Mazda Atenza Sedan XD L package '15 ~388.8km
    Mazda RX-7 GT-X (FC) '90 ~344.3km
    MINI Cooper S ’05 ~253.1km

    Peugeot 208 GTi by Peugeot Sport '14 ~330.2km
    Peugeot RCZ GT Line '15 ~286.7km
    Pontiac Firebird Trans Am '78 ~250.6km
    Renault Sport Clio R.S. 220 EDC Trophy '15 ~220.8km
    Renault Sport Clio R.S. 220 EDC Trophy '16 ~223.0km
    Subaru BRZ S '15 ~270.4km
    Toyota 2000GT '67 ~343.0km
    Toyota 86 GRMN '16 ~260.2m
    Toyota 86 GT '15 ~269.8km
    Toyota MR2 GT-S '97 ~286.1km
    VW Golf VII GTI '14 ~305.6km

    N300
    Alpine A110 Premiere Edition '17 ~232.0km
    Audi TTS Coupe '14 ~173.8km
    Chevrolet Corvette Stingray Convertible (C3) '69 ~177.6km
    De Tomaso Pantera '71 ~204.8km
    Ferrari Dino 246 GT '71 ~304.3km
    Ford Focus ST '15 ~217.3km
    Ford Mustang Mach 1 '71 ~157.4km
    Greddy Fugu Z ~199.7km
    Honda Civic Type R (FK2) '15 ~190.1km
    Honda NSX Type R '92 ~249.6km
    Hyundai Genesis Coupe 3.8 Track '13 ~179.2km
    Jaguar E-type Coupé ’61 ~217.9km
    KTM X-Bow R '12 ~232.3km
    Mazda RX-7 Spirit R Type (FD) '02 ~225.3km
    Mazda RX500 '70 ~296.3km
    Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IV GSR '96 ~207.0km
    Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution Final Edition '15 ~193.3km
    Nissan Fairlady Z 300ZX Twin Turbo 2 Seater '89 ~199.7km
    Nissan Fairlady Z Version S (Z33) '07 ~203.5km
    Nissan Skyline GT-R V-spec II (R32) '94 ~195.5km
    Nissan Skyline GT-R V-spec (R33) '97 ~190.1m
    Nissan Skyline GT-R V-spec II Nur (R34) '02 ~194.9km
    Plymouth XNR Ghia Roadster '60 ~281.3km
    Renault Sport Megane R.S. Trophy '11 ~189.8km
    Shelby G.T.350 '65 ~165.1km
    Subaru Impreza 22B-STi Version ’98 ~191.7km
    Subaru WRX STI Type S '14 ~184.0km
    Toyota Supra 3.0GT Turbo A '88 ~258.2km
    Toyota Supra RZ '97 ~165.1km

    N400
    Aston Martin V8 Vantage S '15 ~149.1km
    Audi R8 4.2 FSI R tronic '07 ~137.0km
    BMW M3 Coupe '07 ~135.0km
    BMW M4 Coupe '14 ~155.5km
    BMW Z8 '01 ~160.6km
    Chevrolet Corvette Stingray (C2) SportCoupe '63 ~161.3km
    Dodge Challenger R/T '70 ~184.0km
    Ferrari 512 BB '76 ~204.2km
    Ferrari GTO ’84 ~159.0km
    Ford F-150 SVT Raptor '11 ~109.8km
    Ford GT40 Mark I '66 ~167.7km
    Ford Mustang GT Premium Fastback '15 ~153.9km
    Lamborghini Countach LP400 '74 ~192.3km
    Lamborghini Miura P400 Bertone Prototype CN.0706 '67 ~194.6km
    Maserati GranTurismo S ’08 ~152.3km
    Mercedes-Benz A 45 AMG 4MATIC '13 ~161.9km
    Porsche 911 GT3 (996) '01 ~166.7km
    Porsche 911 GT3 (997) '08 ~161.0km
    Toyota S-FR Racing Concept '16 ~180.2km
    TVR Tuscan Speed 6 '00 ~196.2km

    N500
    Chevrolet Camaro SS '16 ~164.8m
    Chevrolet Corvette Stingray (C7) '14 ~185.0km
    Citroen GT by Citroen Road Car ~124.8km
    Dodge Viper GTS '02 ~185.9km
    Dodge Viper SRT10 Coupe '06 ~152km
    Ferrari F40 '92 ~140.2km
    Ferrari F50 '95 ~141.8km
    Lexus LC500 '17 ~118.1km
    Lexus RC F '14 ~122.9km
    Mercedes-Benz AMG GT S '15 ~134.1km
    Porsche 911 GT3 RS (911) '16 ~120.6km
    Shelby Cobra 427 '66 ~137.6km

    N500 Gr.3/B Road Cars
    Alfa Romeo 4C Gr3 Road Car ~121.9m
    Chevrolet Corvette C7 Gr3 Road Car ~105.9km
    Ford Mustang Gr3 Road Car ~116.2km
    Mazda Atenza Gr3 Road Car ~109.4m
    Peugeot RCZ Gr3 Road Car ~127.4km
    Mitsubishi Lancer Final Edition GrB Road Car ~120.3km
    Subaru WRX GrB Road Car ~119.4km

    N600
    Aston Martin DB11 '16 ~124.8km
    Dodge Viper GTS '13 ~133.1km
    Ferrari 458 Italia '09 ~124.2km
    Ford GT '06 ~147.8km
    Honda NSX '17 ~124.5km
    Jaguar F-type R Coupe '14 ~119.0km
    Lamborghini Diablo GT '00 ~121.9km
    Lamborghini Huracan LP 610-4 '15 ~114.2km
    McLaren F1 '94 ~130.6km
    McLaren MP4-12C '10 ~123.5km
    Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG '10 ~111.7km
    Nissan GT-R NISMO '17 ~125.4km
    Nissan GT-R Premium Edition '17 ~128.6km

    N700
    Dodge Charger SRT Hellcat '15 ~137.3km
    Ferrari Enzo '02 ~140.8km
    GT Chris Holstrom Concept 1967 Chevy Nova ~90.2km
    Lamborghini Aventador LP 700-4 '11 ~106.2km
    McLaren 650S Coupe '14 ~126.4km

    N800
    Aston Martin One-77 '11 ~101.8km
    Aston Martin Vulcan '16 ~90.9km
    Eckerts Rod & Custom Mach Forty ~110.4km
    Lamborghini Veneno '14 ~101.1km

    N1000
    Bugatti Veyron 16.4 '13 ~81.9km
    Ferrari LaFerrari '13 ~112.0km
     
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  5. rex1825

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    Group B cars:

    Audi Sport Quattro S1 Pikes Peak
    4WD 589HP 1000Kg
    ~91.2km

    Ford Focus
    4WD 538HP 1260Kg
    ~88.3km

    Ford Mustang
    4WD 549HP 1380Kg
    ~97.0km

    Honda NSX
    4WD 557HP 1300Kg
    ~96km

    Hyundai Genesis
    4WD 500HP 1250Kg
    ~97.3km

    Mitsubishi Lancer EVO Final Edition
    4WD 522HP 1290Kg
    ~99.2km

    Nissan GT-R
    4WD 542HP 1350Kg
    ~114.6km

    Peugeot RCZ
    4WD 517HP 1200Kg
    ~94.1km

    Subaru WRX
    4WD 522HP 1280Kg
    ~96.3km

    Toyota 86
    4WD 517HP 1180Kg
    ~95.7km



    Average possible range on tracks vs Blue Moon Bay Speedway II track in GT3 car:

    Northern Isle Speedway - 1.01x
    BB Raceway - 1.04x
    BB Raceway II - 1.07x
    Blue Moon Bay Speedway - 1.02x
    Blue Moon Bay Speedway II - 1.00x
    Blue Moon Bay Infield A - 1.13x
    Blue Moon Bay Infield A II - 1.10x
    Blue Moon Bay Infield B - 1.06x
    Blue Moon Bay Infield B II - 1.04x
    Brands Hatch GP - 1.10x
    Brands Hatch Indy - 1.12x
    Willow Springs: Big Willow - 1.13x
    Willow Springs: Streets of Willow Springs - 1.10x
    Willow Springs: Streets of Willow Springs II - 1.11x
    Willow Springs: Horse Thief Mile - 1.09x
    Willow Springs: Horse Thief Mile II - 1.11x
    Autodromo de Interlagos - 1.10x
    Dragon Trail - Seaside - 1.05x
    Dragon Trail - Seaside II - 1.07x
    Dragon Trail - Gardens - 1.04x
    Dragon Trail - Gardens II - 1.06x
    Alsace Village - 1.07x
    Alsace Village II - 1.07x
    Suzuka Circuit - 1.10x
    Suzuka East Circuit - 1.20x
    Autodrome Lago Maggiore - GP - 1.08x
    Autodrome Lago Maggiore - GP II - 1.14x
    Autodrome Lago Maggiore - Center - 0.92x
    Autodrome Lago Maggiore - Center II - 0.96x
    Autodrome Lago Maggiore - East - 1.07x
    Autodrome Lago Maggiore - East II - 1.15x
    Autodrome Lago Maggiore - West - 1.09x
    Autodrome Lago Maggiore - West II - 1.14x
    Mount Panorama Motor Racing Circuit - 1.09x
    Kyoto Driving Park - Yamagiwa - 1.07x
    Kyoto Driving Park - Yamagiwa II - 1.05x
    Kyoto Driving Park - Miyabi - 1.18x
    Kyoto Driving Park - Yamagiwa + Miyabi - 1.15x
    Kyoto Driving Park - Yamagiwa + Miyabi II - 1.15x
    Tokyo Expressway - Central Outer Loop - 1.05x
    Tokyo Expressway - Central Inner Loop - 1.06x
    Tokyo Expressway - East Outer Loop - 1.00x
    Tokyo Expressway - East Inner Loop - 1.00x
    Tokyo Expressway - South Outer Loop - 0.99x
    Tokyo Expressway - South Inner Loop - 1.02x
    Nurburgring Nordschleife/Turist - 1.10x
    Nurburgring 24h - 1.08x
    Nurburgring GP - 1.05x
    Monza Circuit - 1.00x
    Monza Circuit No Chicane - 1.00x
    Tsukuba Circuit - 1.11x
    Circuit de la Sarthe - 1.01x
    Circuit de la Sarthe No Chicanes - 0.98x
    Circuit de Sainte-Croix A - 1.03x
    Circuit de Sainte-Croix A II - 1.05x
    Circuit de Sainte-Croix B - 1.05x
    Circuit de Sainte-Croix B II - 1.03x
    Circuit de Sainte-Croix C - 1.04x
    Circuit de Sainte-Croix C II - 1.04x
    Red Bull Ring - 0.97x
    Red Bull Ring Mini - 1.00x
    Fuji F - 0.93x
    Fuji GT - 0.96x
    Catalunya - 0.95x
    Special Stage Route X - 0.95x
     
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  6. rex1825

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    Gr.X class:

    Alfa Romeo Giulia TZ2 CN.AR750106 '65 ~320.6km
    Alpine VGT Race Mode ~152.2km
    Alpine VGT ~160.9km
    Aston Martin DP-100 VGT ~106.6km
    Aston Martin DB3S CN.1 ~246.1km
    Audi e-tron VGT - inf
    BMW i3 - inf
    BMW M4 Safety Car ~153.6km
    BMW VGT ~103.4km
    Bugatti VGT ~47.7km
    Chaparral 2X VGT - inf
    Daihatsu Copen RJ VGT ~379.5km
    SRT Tomahawk S VGT~103.0km
    SRT Tomahawk GTS-R VGT ~88.3km
    SRT Tomahawk X VGT ~47.7km4
    Ferrari 330P4 ~202.9km
    Ferrari 250 GTO CN.3729GT ~180.2km
    Fittipaldi EF7 VGT ~102.1km
    Ford Mark IV Race Car '67 ~185.6km
    Gran Turismo F1500T-A ~78.4km
    Gran Turismo Kart 125 Shifter ~32.0km
    Gran Turismo X2014 Junior ~240.0km
    Gran Turismo X2014 Standard ~82.6km
    Honda Project 2&4 ~242.9km
    Honda Sports VGT ~134.4km
    Hyundai N 2025 VGT - inf
    Infinity Concept VGT ~130.2km
    Jaguar XJ13 ~178.2km
    Lexus LF-LC GT VGT ~110.4km
    Mazda LM55 VGT ~87.7km
    McLaren P1 GTR ~99.5km
    McLaren Ultimate VGT ~97.3km
    Mercedes-AMG F1 W08 EQ Power+ ~134.1km
    Mercedes-AMG GT Safety Car ~131.8km
    Mercedes-Benz AMG VGT Racing Series~117.4km
    Mercedes-Benz AMG VGT ~134.7km
    MINI Clubman VGT ~167.0km
    Mitsubishi Concept XR-PHEV Evolution VGT ~134.4km
    Nissan GT-R Safety Car ~126.7km
    Nissan Concept 2020 VGT ~107.5km
    Pagani Zonda R - 106.2km
    Peugeot L500R Hybrid VGT 2017 ~195.8km
    Peugeot VGT ~82km
    Renault R.S.01 '16 ~127.4km
    Shelby Cobra Daytona Coupe '64 ~175.4km
    Subaru Falken Tire/Turn 14 Distribution BRZ '17~80.6km
    Subaru WRX STI Isle of Man Time Attack Car '16~118.4km
    Subaru VIZIV GT VGT ~156.5m
    Tesla Model S P85 sp - inf
    VW GTI SuperSport VGT ~121.9km
    VW GTI Roadster VGT ~124.2km
    Zagato IsoRivolta VGT ~122.6km
     
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  7. phil_75

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    Great work, very interesting.
    Thankyou for doing this.
    My only concern is the AI being off, would be good to drive just one car yourself to see if it matches the AI figures.
     
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  8. rex1825

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    Did that... figures are pretty much in margin of error for consumption. But it is really hard to concentrate for so long, so I let PS4 do the job :)

    Regarding times, well, one can always be better :D
     
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  9. rex1825

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    I will post average consumptions on other tracks vs this one, also driven by AI in Gr.3 car... so basically I'll take one car, set it up same as I did testing here and let it run on fuel map 1 on all track layouts (except gravel ones). This should give people approximate values vs ones that are shown here...

    Cheers...
     
  10. ghostrider135

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    Would love to get a run-down of N100 cars to find out which is the most frugal if possible :tup:
     
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    ...will do that later on, but for N100 cars track must be shorter, probably the short oval will do the trick.
     
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  12. danthespam

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    Wow, you must’ve spent quite some time watching the AI drive around an oval.... :bowdown:
     
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  13. JacksHerer

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    TCS will affect fuel usage if its getting activated, all that petrol being held back by AIDS.
    Racing online against the same car, I had enough fuel to turn map to 1 and pass on the last straight of the last lap. When I watched the replay, the other guy was using TCS and it was active out of every corner.
     
  14. rex1825

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    ...good call, will need to add that to into testing. But this depends a lot from track configuration, if it is curvie it will affect fuel consumption a lot, if it is straight it won't.
     
  15. JacksHerer

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    I think it would matter more when getting out of corners, and depending how much the driver is using TCS,
    Slamming the pedal/button activates TCS completly, but gentle pedal/button won't activate TCS much, if at all even though it's switched on.
    Too many variables for your test, but worth thinking about for people wanting to achieve those mpg in a live race.

    Ps. Nice work
     
  16. vonMarshall

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    Great work!

    I need to do something similar with tire wear. I still have no idea how to calculate what tires to use in longer races
     
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  17. Sven Jurgens

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    How much fuel do you save by drafting? My strategy for the last GT League endurance race was aiming for 1 pit stop, which worked with fuel map 5/6 and drafting behind someone for over half the race. My RM tires didn't quite make it though, should have stuck with RH. I had the car dialed back to N400 as well. Economy driver.
     
  18. rex1825

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    ...question is if they are simulating this at all, probably only difference would be in speeds that you achieve. So when you draft, you go faster, so you travel more, and this is where your mpg goes up :) but will try to test it if I get chance...
     
  19. ItIsOkBro

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    The cars have different fuel tank sizes, cars ordered by fuel tank size would also be valuable info.
     
  20. Sven Jurgens

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    True, you can set the fuel map higher and still keep up while drafting so you spend less fuel than the person in front of you. I imagine it will be hard to test. That ridiculously long straight test track from gt6 would come in handy.

    I did some experimenting with fuel use at max with GR.1 cars on Nurb 24h. They don't make it round yet it's interesting to see some run out way faster than others.

    Today's daily C race has you dial the fuel use back a it to make it. At least with the cars I tried I need fuel map at 2 for 1 lap to make it. I wonder which cars can make it all the way at full power or perhaps if drafting can get you there without changing the fuel map.
     
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    ...well, this also depends how the race alone is set. If it is set to 1x for race, that is for real time consumption, then the numbers up ahead that I pre-calculated should be the way to go. But if there is increased consumption level, those numbers are divided.

    So, if for a Peugeot 908HDi FAP '10 with fuel map set at 1 and normal fuel consumption (1x) set in race, you will be able in worse scenario to pass mark of 108km. But if the fuel consumption for that race is set to, let's say 4x, then actual car mileage with one tank at worse scenario would be 108km/4, wich gives approximate 27km of range.

    And TBH with you, worse are the VGT cars, they have lowest MPG, best by far are the newest ones, like Audi R18, Toyota TS050 etc.

    I will test this out too. It is impossible to believe that all cars have 100l fuel tank, just simply not possible. This is the reason why there are so big of a difference between some of the cars. When I get that info, all percentage will make sense :)
    BTW, there is a way to measure this in multiplayer lobby, since you can set starting fuel for a race. Other than that, you can measure time needed to fill up percentage of tank, and according to that calculate.

    Cheers...
     
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    Completed Gr.3
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    Added +-5% power difference
     
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    This is interesting, this car is one of the most balanced of the class and also the second best in terms of fuel saving, while not having the understeer disadvantage of the GTR.
     
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    Added tracks possible range vs Blue Moon Bay Speedway II
    Added approximate value of additional range when drafting
     
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    I realy appreciate all the work you've put in this. Very helpful when I am ready to do the endurense races. Thanks!
     
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    I did the Porsche endurance race again, N400 Prosche, stuck behind the pack at fuel map 6 and made it 16 laps with drafting. Without drafting max is 14 laps. However those were 2:20 laps with drafting (slow pack) vs 2:14 laps without drafting.

    I used your list to pick the most fuel efficient car for the daily C race today, made it without a pit stop (but not at full power). However the tires were very slippery and I was way behind at the end. Taking the pit stop is a lot faster. Ofcourse having to get a little less fuel for the rest of the race can make all the difference.
     
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    BoP makes a bit of difference, just so you know... :)
     
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    Hi many thanks for all this info. You have inspired me to run my own tests and blend in tire deg etc.

    Could I ask a dumb question... how do you leave the driving to AI? Is this an option in Arcade somewhere or Lobby?
     
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    ...only lobby, you need to set it up for friends only and make it 2 people, that way noone will probably not interfere what you are doing. Also in order to start AI, just drive off the pit, and hit Options :)
     
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    Yeah, there's no bop in GT League. Just curious how far I could push it. I did it again except this time at full power, maxed out HP and needed 4 pit stops. (Just came up 0.3 laps short) My time was 2:20 faster overall than the 1 pit stop slow approach and I had almost lapped the entire field twice. 4th place finished behind me at +2 laps. Keeping that Porsche on track at max HP is a lot harder! Not a chance at a clean race.

    But indeed, in the daily races I guess fuel usage goes up with increased power and weight for BoP.