Group C Challenge - 300KM of Monza - Finished

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  1. GTWolverine

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    Anyone save the replay? 250+mb wasn't enough space apparently...
     
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  2. Pigems

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    I did, I’ll try to share it in game, sometimes the big ones won’t share. :tup:


    Great race today everyone, thanks for the fun time! Congrats to @VulcanSpirit @GOTMAXPOWER and @Drex124 on the great finishes fellas, very well done! :cheers: Thanks to @Drex124 for hosting as well, awesome event man! :cheers:
     
  3. Adam Barber

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    Disconnected 3/4 of the way through. Was looking like a battle with @Kermit_2142 was on the cards.
     
  4. Invisigoth

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    That last lap was hairy. I think @K1LLD0z3R and I got caught up in the road train of cars on their final lap :crazy:.

    @GTWolverine I have no idea what you were jumping up and down about mate. The only contact I recall was poor @K1LLD0z3R . I did manage to slow down and go off track just enough to ghost in time for Mad Max to drive through me :rolleyes:.
     
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  5. GOTMAXPOWER

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    I had a penalty to scrub into Ascari, was hoping it would give me enough time coming out of ghost mode to drive straight through you and got lucky! :lol: (Edit: I was driving through you either way, this was the prettier way!)

    I saw the incident on the replay, there was contact but a lot of lag involved. It made no sense when I saw the message in chat because you were nowhere near each other (I guess that was posted later).
     
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  6. K1LLD0z3R

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    I definitely had a good time but I must admit I had too much alcohol. Please forgive me if I interrupted anyone’s laps.
     
  7. GOTMAXPOWER

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    @GTWolverine vs @Invisigoth



    This is just how my connection sees it, I'm guessing Wolverine saw no lag and Invisigoth saw no Sauber. In fact it would be interesting to see the same incident from other peoples replays.
     
  8. RacingGrandpa

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    PS_Messages_20200907_005213.jpg PS_Messages_20200907_005222.jpg PS_Messages_20200907_005245.jpg PS_Messages_20200907_005250.jpg PS_Messages_20200907_005342.jpg PS_Messages_20200907_005520.jpg sharing the replay in game... Here are some photos.

    Edit: having difficulty sharing...
     

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  9. GTWolverine

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    Yeah I had no idea I was basically driving stop-motion race...:lol:. Stupid AT&T...
    Anyway, I owe @Invisigoth a massive apology then. Sorry about that. AT&T has been complete trash since we first got it what seems like forever ago, but it never gave me problems like this, or at least no one has complained about my lagging in the Sport Mode races. From my POV everyone was running smoothly.
     
  10. GOTMAXPOWER

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    Why can we have a connection quality graphic in sport mode but not in lobbies, the technology must exist in the game.

    I wouldn't have checked the replay but it just looked strange in race with where your cars were relative to each other.
     
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  11. Invisigoth

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    I had seen a car teleporting around the track, but wasn't sure who it was. The couple of times I did see you lap me it all looked pretty undramatic to me. The blue flag system that GT uses is kinda unreliable. I see blue lights and warnings when the nearest car is half a lap away! I have kinda learnt to ignore it unless I see something on the radar. It would be nice if when it flashed up the blue it also gave an indication of how many seconds it is behind :crazy:. When cornering I stay on my line and pull aside after corner exit. In the incident where i knocked you off, I obviously missed my braking point. If I was aware there was a car that close I would have used that as an indicator to brake earlier or tried to steer to the left. The replay from Max's view shows you ghosted, so there shouldn't have been any contact. I can only conclude that lag was an issue. I'm not in the habit of targeting other cars just because they are faster than me! <well ok, except for @GOTMAXPOWER , but Mad Max is "special" :lol:>

    I think where the replay shows you ghosted hitting @K1LLD0z3R and it registering as contact, I think it was actually me that made contact with him :guilty:.
     
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    This was what I saw on my replay, definitely some lag going on. :lol:

    Lag Brakes! :lol:



    The Incident.

     
  14. Kermit_2142

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    That was awesome fun!!!! Congrats to the top 3 and also just to say I experienced a good clean race from everyone including lapped drivers :cheers:.
     
  15. Invisigoth

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    With everything that went on during the race, I'd just like to state for the record.......It's all @sturk0167 's fault!
     
  16. GTWolverine

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    So he's who I need to blame for my terrible internet...
     
  17. Invisigoth

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    Damn strait! :O
     
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  18. VulcanSpirit

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    All is forgiven. :) Apologies for the ram at Lesmo 1 on Lap 26; didn't expect you to brake as early as you did.

    Hung in there following a topsy-turvy start (cold tyres and turbo lag coming out of Rettifilo especially cost me in the first few laps) and saw through the two-stopper as planned. Nice moves from @R_Goldstreiff and @Drex124 at Roggia. Knew from seeing R_Goldstreiff and @GOTMAXPOWER pit on Lap 13 that I would get the jump if they stopped again towards the end, even if the couple of mishaps I had made the task trickier. Felt a storm of excitement and apprehension building up during the final stint so didn't try to push the Nissan too hard; it was just as well since the gap between myself and GOTMAXPOWER was around 9-12 seconds up to the line.

    Dedicating this win to my grandad and auntie, who both passed away during the last six months.
     
  19. Invisigoth

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    I was quite surprised to see everyone pitting so early. I didn't have to pit till lap 22. A couple of times I caught up to @RacingGrandpa , but just as I was closing in I'd screw up and have to take evasive action to keep on track and loose bulk time. I was ahead for a bit at one stage, but when I had my first pit stop, I had to make another kind of pit stop :crazy:. I was surprised to find @K1LLD0z3R still behind me. I think he was finding the Nissan a bit of a handfull. From a drivability aspect for those of us at the bottom end, I think the Porsche and the Sauber are the easiest to deal with.

    Other than la Sarthe, Gr1 of any kind is usually a bit of a horror show for me, but I gotta say. Monza had a nice flow with these cars.
     
  20. GOTMAXPOWER

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    I'm sorry to hear about your Aunt and Grandad.

    I think you had that race in the bag all the way, your pace was better than anybody elses and you could get better fuel mileage. The Jaguar could only get 15 laps without fuel saving so splitting the race into even 13 lap stints was quicker than trying to stretch for the extra 2, there were some nice fights early on (especially with @Panoz then @R_Goldstreiff later on) then it was about settling into a good rhythm and not making too many mistakes. Thanks for the race everybody, good respectful driving (although I did squeeze @Invisigoth almost onto the grass just because I wanted a wider turn).
     
  21. RacingGrandpa

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    That's because I also had to make that pitstop when I went for tires and gas...
    But I had to put every 12 laps for gas. Figured I'd change tires too, it's just 3 sec
     
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  22. Invisigoth

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    I was paying attention and did move over and brake. Every time @VulcanSpirit lapped me I saw you were running P2, so when the blue flags came up again I knew it was you. I usually had presence of mind to peek at the track map and see vaguely how far behind you were :scared:. The one time you drove through me I was ghosted, and although a bit disconcerting, it was a fair call :tup:

    Yeh, tyre changes are so quick that it's not a bad idea to change boots. The only down side is the outlap on cold tyres is a bit slower.
     
  23. GTWolverine

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    For context, here's what my game captured. I did it from @Invisigoth's POV because I figured it would give a clearer view of the incident. As you can see from the replay my own system captured, everything was running smoothly on my end, and I had no indication how badly I was lagging. Because of this, it looked completely like a "torpedo" from my POV, while I assume I was ghosted from his POV.
     
  24. GTWolverine

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    Also when do you normally announce these races @Drex124? I didn't see this event until a few days ago when you tagged everyone on Discord. I'd love to do another one and hopefully redeem myself after such a piss poor drive yesterday. And hopefully my internet doesn't crap the bed again...
     
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  25. DelboyD

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    Some great pics!

    Group C prototypes look so much better than the LMP style of the last 10 or so years.
     
  26. Drex124

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    Usually I like to have the thread up at least two weeks before hand, though this one was up for a month since it had to be moved back. And then I steal the tags from Pigems' DRWF thread, with some additions from the previous race. I'll usually post it in the discord as well at least once, about a week before the race.
     
  27. R_Goldstreiff

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    Hey hey everybody, thanks for this great Group C event @Drex124 , it was well organized and provided even more intense action than Fuji last time in July.

    Congrats @VulcanSpirit, you really had this race in your bag, which is impressive considering that you got run off / had a run in as well on your first stint at Parabolica by @K1LLD0z3R, saw it from the spectators position in 2nd ;). Also big congrats to @GOTMAXPOWER for again really picking up the pace during the race, like at Fuji, and that in a Jaguar as well. Well done to @Drex124 for making the two-stop work (was it a two-stop? - I think) and to @Pigems for getting the best of me again, like at the EVo vs. WRX event. Damn.

    About the Sauber showing, it was a shame that you had an unlucky race @GTWolverine, I think you were the quickest of us Sauber guys, it seemed that way from one lap pace. @Panoz kept me honest in the final stint, we had a close fight for 5th - did you actually two-stop the gaz guzzler? That would have been quiet an achievement.

    For my own race, I am bit disappointed with 5th, I had been running in the top three for 2/3 of the race and was enjoying the time in the lead I have to admit, although I knew that it would not last and @VulcanSpirit was on a much faster overall race pace...anyway, I happened upon @Invisigoth on my 35th lap and was too eager to pass, spinning at the second chicane, sorry for taking you out there as well @Invisigoth . Oh boi. I had a look at the finishing time and we would have had at least a real decent squabble for 3rd otherwise, @Drex124, but, yeah, gotta stop spinning first.
    And to whomever took out those marker posts before the second Lesmo, well done, I was really struggling finding a good spot afterwards.

    I think I am kinda sad because I felt the Sauber had the pace for a podium, it was the fastest car over a single lap. Well... it is racing and from what I saw most of us had at least a few incidents during the race. Next time, hopefully, maybe or maybe not.

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  28. VulcanSpirit

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    Thank you for your condolences and comments about my performance last night. Wasn't sure how my initial practice laps would stack up, but I knew I was onto something as soon as I started clocking high-1:33s/low-1:34s on heavy fuel. Nissan seemed to work very well again with short-shifting (ideal target was at around 7,500rpm) and gentle inputs.

    Having looked back at my replay this morning, I genuinely think it was a mistake from @K1LLD0z3R. I was looking to lap around the outside as I did to @Pigems during a practice race, but reckoned without him understeering into my side.

    Cracking shots, by the way. :)
     
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  29. GTWolverine

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    It's a shame I couldn't capitalize on my pace. Ultimately I was too timid when following another car into the chicanes, which is probably why I kept giving up so many spots at the start. Even though I tend to drive high downforce cars way better than GT and road cars, I usually struggle at Monza because I don't like "stop-start" tracks like this. Once I found my rhythm I was surprisingly keeping up with @Pigems and trying to follow him back up to the front, and when I wasn't making mistakes I was actually gaining on the leaders. The final nail in the coffin for my race was pushing way too hard on my out lap after my 2nd stop and spinning twice, losing at least 20s. After that, I pretty much gave up any hope of recovery and tried to go for fastest lap, and when that wasn't possible I gave up entirely.
     
  30. Kermit_2142

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    This photo looks like real life .... how do you do that???

    Kudos to you sir :tup: