GT2 Weekly Challenge: Special Events

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I'm in for this round. I tried my best, and I second what jeffgoddin says, this is one nasty track !
Moreover, I'm not really used to stock tires feeling, as I usually ride with Simulation tires (I'm trying a lot of stock cars from the game to find out their potential).
The first corner in HSR is quite easy, I managed an exit speed of around 215 kph in my hotlap (which took me 19 laps to achieve :D). I clipped the apex in the second corner at a good amount of speed : I stated braking in a straight line, but rapidly turning towards the inside. As the car slowed down to 155-160 kph, it is close to the inside. I let the car coast until the apex, speed being about 150 kph. At this moment, the front left tire is at the very limit between tarmac and dirt. Then, it's all out until the chicane. I entered it on the outside and lost a bit of speed on purpose, so I could be on the outside ready to take an out-in-out line for the second corner of the chicane.
I missed the clipping point in the last corner, but I was still able to carry good speed through the corner.
BTW, I used a 91 Skyline GTS-T Type M...
 
Cool! Great speed through the 2nd corner! And just for your bookkeeping, for future rounds at least, you should have 2700Cr left over from the purchase price of the GTS-T Type M, and then we have two rounds of prize money to tune with totaling another 8000Cr. So you could have spent up to 10,700Cr tuning your car for this round.
 
OK everyone, here are the times for the High Speed Ring challenge!

1st: jeffgoddin!:cheers: (his Silvia dominated the Sunday Cup!:cool:)

S1: 0:14:159
S2: ¿?
S3: 0:46:118
Final: 1:04:980
Top speed: 140,94 mph
Car: Nissan Silvia K's 1800 (turbo1-race flywheel-sport suspension-weight1-chip)

2nd place: Wankel3

S1: 0.14.477
S2: 0.13.368
S3: 0.18.392
S4: 0.18.991
Total: 1.05.663
Car: Mazda RX-7 Infini III (racing flywheel-weight1-sports suspension)

3rd place: Loulou221

S1: 0.14.499
S2: 0.13.600
S3: 0.18.583
S4: 0.19.157
Total: 1:05.839
Top speed : 221.85 kph (138,65 mph)
Car: Nissan Skyline GTS-t Type M '91 (racing flywheel-weight1-turbo1-chip)

4th place: Samgt

S1: 0:14:842
S2: 0:13:967
S3: 0:19:002
S4: 0:19:601
Total: 1:07:412
Car: Nissan Skyline GTS25 (NA1-semirace flywheel-weight1-chip-semi-racing clutch)

SO, THE CHAMPION OF THE SUNDAY CUP, WITH 3 VICTORIES IN A ROW IS: JEFFGODDIN:gtpflag: CONGRATULATIONS!

 
Yeah, actually I was expecting to be slower here than you, since it looked like your second turn was significantly better than mine. But those adjustable dampers certainly help in terms of pure cornering velocity and precise weight transitions, although cars like RX-7 tend to acquire infamous banking-induced snap-oversteer if setup is too tight.
Also, just to clearify: I had a racing intercooler bolted on along with parts mentioned in gt3kid89's post.

Edit: The funny thing is that it is probably the first time ever I use the sports suspension in GT2. In my early GT2 days I always went for the semi-racing package right away, and since the moment I mastered the art of tuning I have been going straight up for the fully customizable coilovers (except for a handful of cars with really good semi-racing springs and dampers setup).
 
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I have a question: i want to do the Clubman Cup challenge, but it's pretty much the same thing and the Sunday Cup, only with different tracks. You want me to do the Clubman, or go straight on to the FF Challenge?
 
Well, like F1, sometimes the car is more important than the driver! :lol: but seriously, I can tell from having tested your cars that Wankel3 is dead even with me, and loulou221 I'm afraid to say may be a little faster! :nervous: If he'd left the chip off and spent the rest of his money on sports suspension, it might have been close.

Curious about the next round now... guessing we have another 4000Cr to spend on our cars. Also beginning to wonder about the eventual process of "trading up", like, what do we get for selling our cars? Normal GT2 where you just get half the original price of your car and no credit for parts? I'll be saving for more than a few races, then. Maybe something which would encourage trying out a different car at some point without it being too painful would be full price of car and all parts on it minus 5000Cr or something like that.

Also, can't say it was the most exhaustive test, but once I tried to figure out which upgrades give you the most bang for your buck. I've also determined that a 10% boost in power will result in a 1% decrease in lap time. So, don't take this too precisely, but here's order of most cost effective upgrades. Also alongside each upgrade you'll see a number which is how much a power upgrade needs to cost for it to be a better choice than a handling upgrade at that point.


26 Fly-2
32 Fly-1
52 Fly-3
126 WR-1
167 Driveshaft
251 Susp-sport
354 Clutch-2
364 Clutch-3
381 Tires-supersoft
388 Tires-hard
388 WR-2
437 Clutch-1
426 Tires-sport
550 susp-semi race
652 Brakes
866 LSD 2 way
921 susp-pro
1184 WR-3
2909 race mod


Gears are up to you, you need them when you need them... Weight Reduction works much better for heavier cars since PD actually takes a greater percentage of weight off if your car is 1240kg or more to begin with. Also notice, oddly all the Hard-Super soft tires are the same bang for your buck! That's not an accident, I'm sure.

and how the power thing works, my race intercooler will give me 17hp for 3000Cr, or about 180Cr per hp, so maybe I should have gotten it before sports suspension... definitely before Clutch or any tires.

but again, pretty sure I only tested this with one car, probably about 1200kg... so for a 1000kg base car, multiply the above numbers by 10/12 to determine when to go for hp instead of other upgrades, and for a 1400kg base car, multiply by 14/12. power is more effective on lighter cars than heavier ones...
 
I think after Sunday cup it would be better to do other key competitions which pretty much everyone who played GT2 took part in. We could take a single race from each GT Regionals cup, for example. Later we can go to other famous races like Historics in Rome, All Stars in Red Rock, Turbo cup on Test Track (which can be a little bit silly), and of course GT300 or World Cup.

Or we can choose the path of prolonging the day-1 car's life and realizing its full potential, thus the FR cup is the good choice (with budget regulations based on our sunday cup remainders), or indeed the Clubman Cup.

As for some other special events, I think that for events like FF cup it is true that every GT player took them on different stages of the game, so they had different cars and budgets for a build. Hence implying the regulations on the budget doesn't seem to be viable for me. Instead I think it is better to restrict certain set of parts (tires in the first place) allowed to use.

So basically I think all descends to a choice whether we want to see how our current cars evolve compared to others or to have some competitions in different situations with different vehicles.

Edit: jeffgoddin, thanks for the research! I understand that these results are applicable only on your S13, but still interesting. Also, one thing I don't really get about GT2 - why would anyone ever use the non-adjustable LSD? On highly modified or simply powerful cars the full-custom is just way better for drivability, and on not so fast cars it doesn't make too much difference in comparison to other upgrades (of course this is not the case IRL, but it is in GT2 because of generally high grip).
 
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I know the original intent was to do all the Special Events (not the GT Events) but yeah, it gets a bit complicated.

Should we do them all, but only in the appropriate cars? Only historic for historic, only FF for FF, etc? Then we're talking about building a garage full of cars. Not to mention this would take a whole year to get through.

I guess for right now, I'm more for building up the cars we have to their ultimate potential, and only racing where appropriate, then see where we go from there.

Also, prize cars? I'd say for the events which give cars, just ignore them. Don't get to sell them off even. Otherwise money gets crazy fast and/or we'd all just end up switching to the same car when the prize car is awesome.

My Silvia is currently sitting at 4.85 kg/hp (with race intercooler now), here's a list of possible next events that would be appropriate for the power we're at:

GT UK - 2 Trial Mountain, 4.90kg/hp, tires: sport, prize 5000Cr
Convertible - 2 Grindewald, 4.68kg/hp, tires: sports, prize 8000Cr
80's Sport - 4 Seattle Circuit, 4.52kg/hp, tires: sports, prize 8000Cr
Clubman Cup -3 Rome Circuit, 4.50kg/hp, tires: normal, prize 7000Cr
FR-3 Midfield, 4.43kg/hp, tires: sports, prize 7000Cr
Touring Car Cup - 2 Grand Valley, 3.99kg/hp, tires: medium, prize 20,000Cr
Pure Sport - 1 Laguna Seca, 3.84kg/hp, tires: sport, prize 7000Cr
GT Euro - 1 Apricot Hill, 3.83kg/hp, tires: medium, prize 10,000Cr
Pure Sport - 2 Deep Forest, 3.59kg/hp, tires: sports, prize 8000Cr
Muscle Car - 1 Seattle Short, 3.46kg/hp, tires: sport, prize 7000Cr
GT Pacific - 2 Seattle Circuit, 3.43kg/hp, tires: soft, prize 10,000Cr
Historic - 3 Grindewald, 3.22kg/hp, tires: sport, prize 8000Cr
Pure Sport - 3 Trial Mountain, 2.66kg/hp, tires: hard, prize 10,000Cr
Tuned Turbo - 1 Special Stage R5, 2.58kg/hp, tires: soft, prize 50,000Cr
Tuned Turbo - 2 Test Course, 1.92kg/hp, tires: soft, prize 50,000Cr

I'd say only award 10,000Cr at Touring Car Cup 2, then at the end say we all crashed and have like 20,000Cr left to start over again, maybe with a FF Sedan/Wagon going for the Super Touring Car championship through the FF and Sedan cups. That's 95,000Cr prize money going into the Tuned Turbo SSR5 event. Three of the tracks are repeated above, but at significantly different power levels so should still be interesting.

What do you guys think? That would still take almost 4 months to get through... We could chop it in half and double the prize money instead, or something like that...
 
I think that if we continue to use our cars, then we should take them to appropriate events. From the above list these would be 80's sportscars, Clubman cup, FR cup. Later the Turbo, GT Pacific and Pure Sports will work, not sure about the Touring Car Cup.

The FF career may also be interesting, although I would suggest the NA cup as the last cup before RMing.

Edit: some of the PWRs above are very approximate: for example the Turbo Cup in SSR5 can be won with fully tuned AE86, and I am pretty sure that the race on the Test Track could be won with the S2000 if it was legitimate for the event.
 
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Yeah, I stole the figures off Parnelli Bones' GT site, and have only adjusted a few through experience. I use them as approximations of how much hp/tires I need to get a good race, and it works pretty well.

And so more like this? Got rid of Pure Sport, Convertible, Muscle Car, Historic, and Touring Car events, substituted a couple of lower power events to keep it more thematic and so we could still go to Grindewald and Deep Forest, and a couple more GT Pacific/Euro events so we could still go to Grand Valley and Laguna Seca.

Clubman Cup -2 Grindewald, 7.68kg/hp, tires: normal, prize 6000Cr
80's Sport - 3 Deep Forest, 5.59kg/hp, tires: sports, prize 5000Cr
GT UK - 2 Trial Mountain, 4.90kg/hp, tires: sport, prize 5000Cr
80's Sport - 4 Seattle Circuit, 4.52kg/hp, tires: sports, prize 8000Cr
Clubman Cup -3 Rome Circuit, 4.50kg/hp, tires: normal, prize 7000Cr
FR-3 Midfield, 4.43kg/hp, tires: sports, prize 7000Cr
GT Euro - 1 Apricot Hill, 3.83kg/hp, tires: medium, prize 10,000Cr
GT Euro - 2 Grand Valley, 3.52kg/hp, tires: medium, prize 10,000Cr
GT Pacific - 2 Seattle Circuit, 3.43kg/hp, tires: soft, prize 10,000Cr
GT Pacific - 3 Laguna Seca, 3.43kg/hp, tires: soft, prize 10,000Cr
Tuned Turbo - 1 Special Stage R5, 2.58kg/hp, tires: soft, prize 50,000Cr
Tuned Turbo - 2 Test Course, 1.92kg/hp, tires: soft, prize 50,000Cr

Edit: as a capstone, we could RM and do just the first race of the GT300, Grand Valley East...
 
Well, based on your sugestions, i could also add the Regional Events as Wankel3 said, taking one of each, then the Pacific/Euro and finally the World League. Then go on the Special Events, but not following them in linear way (example: Turbo at Test Track first, then GT500,etc.) What do you think?
 
Hey, it's your show, you decide! :) We've given you our feedback, just let us know what's next.
 
You guys might have a new challenger right here. But two questions. 1st did the Clubman Cup start yet? 2nd what are the car limitations for the clubman cup?
 
Go to page 1 to see what price you have to pay for the day 1 car of your choice (lowest price between PAL and NTSC and everything available on day 1 from either, to keep it fair.) Whatever you have left out of 10,000Cr, plus 12k more for winning the Sunday Cup events is what you have for tuning.
 
jeffgoddin
Go to page 1 to see what price you have to pay for the day 1 car of your choice (lowest price between PAL and NTSC and everything available on day 1 from either, to keep it fair.) Whatever you have left out of 10,000Cr, plus 12k more for winning the Sunday Cup events is what you have for tuning.
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Can you tell me what days the UCD cycles through in order to get the Day 1 cars back again? I don't really want to restart GT2 for a third time.
 
DurWinning
I think I might need to restart GT2 FOR THE THIRD TIME.

Someone kill me.
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No, don't worry about it! if you see the car you want off of that list in a used lot, buy it for whatever, but pretend like it only cost the price off the list! Did you look at the list I linked?
 
jeffgoddin
No, don't worry about it! if you see the car you want off of that list in a used lot, buy it for whatever, but pretend like it only cost the price off the list! Did you look at the list I linked?
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Yes. I just have to find the exact car and do the math on my computer so I don't lose track of the money. I just have to figure out what car I want now.
 
Yeah, when reporting to gt3kid, I just started a conversation where I spell it all out, mainly so I have someplace to refer back to for myself to see how much money I've spent and how much i have left.
 
DurWinning
Yes. I just have to find the exact car and do the math on my computer so I don't lose track of the money. I just have to figure out what car I want now.
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You just have to set yourself the 10000 credit price tag, buy any car under that budget and tune it with your remaining money!👍
 
gt3kid89
You just have to set yourself the 10000 credit price tag, buy any car under that budget and tune it with your remaining money!👍
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Ok. Have we officially started the Clubman Cup?
 
I went ahead assuming Clubman Cup in order, time submitted for Rome Short. Grindelwald next, then Rome Circuit.
 
Pretty much the same rules as the Sunday Cup. Mantain your lovely day 1 car and check how far it can go! With credits from Sunday, try to upgrade your car!:cheers:
 
I'll try to have the Rome time for tomorrow. (I still need to win the damn Red Rock race)
 

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