GT4 car variations in real life

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Ah well. From what I heard, it wasn't possivle b/c the 2 did different things and didn't work together.

On the Delta S4, they didn't work together so much as stay out of each other's way.
To avoid turbo lag, the supercharger provided the boost below 4000 rpm, while the turbo was vented.
Since superchargers become less efficient at high rpm, the turbo kicked in above 4000 and the supercharger disconnected via clutch. During development, Lancia had some trouble finding the right rpm range and getting the transition to go smoothly.

If you've ever heard a Delta S4 running at idle or low speed it sounds really evil because of the constant hiss of the vented turbo pressure.
 
S4A
On the Delta S4, they didn't work together so much as stay out of each other's way.
To avoid turbo lag, the supercharger provided the boost below 4000 rpm, while the turbo was vented.
Since superchargers become less efficient at high rpm, the turbo kicked in above 4000 and the supercharger disconnected via clutch. During development, Lancia had some trouble finding the right rpm range and getting the transition to go smoothly.

If you've ever heard a Delta S4 running at idle or low speed it sounds really evil because of the constant hiss of the vented turbo pressure.
Well, since I'm going to Germany tomorrow, maybe I can hopefully see one.
I want to hear it now. Hell, I want to see it.
 
It sorta pisses me off that they have so many versions of the Japanese cars, with so many stupid and weird names that don't suggest anything.

They oughta have the:
Subaru Impreza WRX STi Better-in-some-crappily-useless-way-because-of-some-newfangled-device-that-last-year's-model-didn't-have Spec

instead of the:
Spoon Mugen Nismo TRD Mazdaspeed RalliArt STi 6.0 Version XVII 20005003021 Type R Type S GT-R GT-S GT1 GTS-R GTS-T LM SR RS MR GR GSR GPX K's Q's WRX A-Spec B-Spec C-Spec M-Spec R-Spec S-Spec T-Spec U-Spec V-Spec Forwards and Backwards Spirit Sports Standard Limited Twin-Turbo Coupe Wagon Sedan Convertible Version A-Z Super Alpha Beta Gamma Omega Hyper Ultra 5 Billion with optional Lightspeed Hyper Drive PLUS


God, the names are as dumb, long, and numerous as Street Fighter games.
 
Turbo and supercharger are possible together. BUT twin turbo and supercharger it's like BOOM and like really hard to make work but possible BUT would never be used in a practical application just BIG SHOW.
 
S4A
Recent video of a vintage Delta S4. You can hear the boost vent off at the very end when the driver lifts for the corner.
This was an insanely fast car; a double-fatality in one led to Group B rallying being outlawed after 1986.

http://www.zavodydovrchu.cz/vrchy/rechberg_2003_ianiello.mpg



was that the crash where the fire was so damn hot all that was left was the chasis skeleton and the remains were all burned up?
 
Kremithefrog
Turbo and supercharger are possible together. BUT twin turbo and supercharger it's like BOOM and like really hard to make work but possible BUT would never be used in a practical application just BIG SHOW.

Well not really. Since some twin-turbo set-ups are sequential, like the FD Rx-7's, they basically does the same as a turbo+supercharger (aka twincharger), which is the smaller turbo spools quickly which feds into the larger turbo spooling that quickly, which provides quick response as well as high rpm output. In this case, the super-charger may not be as effective.
But with the twin turbo set-up seen in the skyline pic, they are two turbos spun by two different cylinder combinations (the first turbo is driven by cyl. 1-3, while the other is driven by cyl. 4-6), and then fed into the intake, they basically work as one larger turbo, and the intake never knows the difference. If both of these turbos were large/inefficient enough to lag badly, then a supercharger could be effectively to provide low rpm power.
I over simplified that, but you're "BOOM" theory still makes little to no sense. So this could work, it doesn't have to be "BIG SHOW", it's just that the time/effort/money to make this system work could probably be spent somewhere else more effectively.
Also, if you're looking for a practical application of twin-charging, there are quite a few MR2's that are twin-charged with great results. Avid readers of SCC would remember there was one in the ultimate street car challenge are year or two ago.
 
DelaWhereTSi
I over simplified that, but you're "BOOM" theory still makes little to no sense. So this could work, it doesn't have to be "BIG SHOW", it's just that the time/effort/money to make this system work could probably be spent somewhere else more effectively.
Also, if you're looking for a practical application of twin-charging, there are quite a few MR2's that are twin-charged with great results. Avid readers of SCC would remember there was one in the ultimate street car challenge are year or two ago.
I understand it all buddy. AGAIN, you're not gonna see those sc'd/turbo'd cars being on top of their competition. That's just the way it is. I'd venture to say that goes even more so for that twin turbo'd/sc'd/BIG SHOW skyline engine. Yeah it is all doable. It's just not all the best thing and doesn't see much/any use in true competition.
 
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