GT5 2.0 Disappointment Thread

  • Thread starter Thread starter jason2590
  • 764 comments
  • 64,013 views
Serious question to those folks who feels it applies to them.

Why do those who feel the need to defend PD and GT5 choose to voluntary come into threads clearly expressing disappointment towards this update, then talk down to everyone who wasn't exactly satisfied with it? Not to mention TWO exact opposites of this thread already exist.

I just don't understand it. If it bothers you so much to hear people talk negatively towards GT5, why come in here?

Reminds me too much of the "Is anyone else disappointed in GT5?" thread and people got blasted in the only place it was perfectly fine to express their dislikes about the game.
It's called...let's see...discussion :sick: It's cool 👍
 
Can everybody count to 10 and untie their knickers?

And remember, play the ball, not the man. Insults flying around leads to PMs from staff...
 
I'm beginning to dislike aspects of this 2.0 update the more I think about it. Add that with some poor quality control and PD is starting to look a little Bush League.

The replay changes were my number 1 request. I have 11 months of replays where I've tried and tried to get it paused on the right spot (often an exhaust flame, which is another issue in itself) only be off and have to start the race over. Can I go back with a FF/REW and retry to get the right photo? Nope. Only on newly created replays. That is ridiculous. It's like earlier when they allowed custom tracks to be played online. Could you use an older track you spent a decent amount of time perfecting? Nope. You had to go back and redo it, and if you attempted to replicate it, good luck.

I am not a computer programmer. I passed my college C++ course, probably because the prof. felt bad that I got mono and missed a ton of time. I don't have a clue what is needed to make a modern video game at the scale of GT5. The problem I have with PD is that they have these great ideas (photo mode, replays, endurance races for people with jobs/kids, etc), and then execution of those is questionable. They will patch some of these, but most are how they will be forever.

Am I one of these tools who is putting GT5 on the shelf or selling it. Hell no, its a great game that has entertained me for almost a year (near daily). But I get a little irked when PD teases with a cool feature only to have half assed execution or no testing. If I owned GT4 I'd probably feel robbed given the track count decrease and minimal improvement to cars that were in GT4 (read: standard).

Now we are being asked to shell out 8.3% of the original purchase price for 1 track. I'm sorry cart fans it's only one track. I am super geeked about Spa, and will part with the $5. PD needs to know if this is the future of GT5 DLC there aren't any other tracks that are going to carry a $5 track pack by itself.
 
PMs from staff...
No(o x1000) :scared:
Anyway, nobody is insulting nobody (or I'm very stupid) and we are just sharing different points of views even if some are 'effin obvious and only blinds could not see them but anyway (sorry blind people, you are an example to any of us 👍).
I'll resume my amusement tomorrow after dinner. Have fun 'til I came back!

EDIT: Man lots of my posts are getting deleted nowadays...maybe I'm losing qualities :grumpy:
 
And while I am bitching. Doesn't the AI know that wheel to wheel racing is exciting? Why the hell do they always lift when you are passing? Who the hell does that?
 
Serious question to those folks who feels it applies to them.

Why do those who feel the need to defend PD and GT5 choose to voluntary come into threads clearly expressing disappointment towards this update, then talk down to everyone who wasn't exactly satisfied with it? Not to mention TWO exact opposites of this thread already exist.

I just don't understand it. If it bothers you so much to hear people talk negatively towards GT5, why come in here?

Reminds me too much of the "Is anyone else disappointed in GT5?" thread and people got blasted in the only place it was perfectly fine to express their dislikes about the game.



PD and GT doesn't need defending. The game stands on it's merits. The question here is if somone doesn't like the game to the point of complaining non stop about it with the same old issues day in day out then why don't they walk away from it? If i go into a restaurant and hate the food being served, i just tell the waiter to get me something different. I don't have to complain about the food non stop. I am not being forced to eat it. similarly no one is putting a gun to anyone's head to force them to play GT.

You're the master of your own life. No one else is.
 
GTShadowKing
No you are not, I was also pissed off by this kind of career mode, but I already get over it... but now that "we're all haters for that" attitude is pathetic IMHO...

No hard feelings mates, pardon if misunderstood :D

GTShadowKing
This is actually an excellent advice 👍

GTShadowKing
But you should. After all, there are much more important things, and it also makes your blood pressure lower and your stress level decrease :D

GTShadowKing
Real life stuff 💡 And if it hurts so much, you should move on...or the pain will always be there...

GTShadowKing
Then bye and be happy :)

GTShadowKing
It's called...let's see...discussion :sick: It's cool 👍

And what exactly do you have to contribute? Nothing.
This whole thread is cluttered up with the same replies from you over and over, insulting people all over the place who are all just trying to give constructive critisism. What you do is just trolling and the worst part is people fall for it. If this was Neogaf you'd be gone bye-bye since a long time. 👎
Do you even play GT5? With all the time you're wasting here probably not.
 
And what exactly do you have to contribute? Nothing.
This whole thread is cluttered up with the same replies from you over and over, insulting people all over the place who are all just trying to give constructive critisism. What you do is just trolling and the worst part is people fall for it. If this was Neogaf you'd be gone bye-bye since a long time. 👎
Do you even play GT5? With all the time you're wasting here probably not.
I just lol'd. Seriously man, if it's useless why do you een care huh?
BTW I play GT5 sometimes, but I have other games to play, other interest, wanna know something else about me? I don't mind...
Have fun mate, because guys like you are funny...GTP is actually pretty funny nowadays...

EDIT: Sphinx - I think that it's because of the official TDU2 foruns...make a visit there...never saw anything like that...
 
Am I one of these tools who is putting GT5 on the shelf or selling it. Hell no, its a great game that has entertained me for almost a year (near daily). But I get a little irked when PD teases with a cool feature only to have half assed execution or no testing.

Exactly agree... GT5 still has a lot of great aspects but the dissapointments are common and major enough that almost every positive is dotted with a negative...

For instance to this day when people come over I have the urge to relive those glory days of nose to nose battles on the ring in GT... but in GT5 no 2 player replay... WTF? That is seriously one fo the greatest parts of the race, sitting back after a close race and watching the duel! Unlike a fighting game where both people see both fighters the whole time and concentrate on both a racing game has you focused heavily on your screen and only rarely do you see the other person and pretty much every time a chase cam provides a better shot of the action... so you know what happens? No 2 player battles because while the race might be epic, the thought of no replay is a big rain cloud...

I mean come on, you can get a replay of an online race with a dozen other people but no replay of a local 2 player race?

If I owned GT4 I'd probably feel robbed given the track count decrease and minimal improvement to cars that were in GT4 (read: standard).

I do own GT4 and I actually went back and played it not long after GT5 came out... made the missing tracks hurt all the more...

]quote]Now we are being asked to shell out 8.3% of the original purchase price for 1 track. I'm sorry cart fans it's only one track. I am super geeked about Spa, and will part with the $5. PD needs to know if this is the future of GT5 DLC there aren't any other tracks that are going to carry a $5 track pack by itself.[/QUOTE]

Not only that, they are charging for car packs... Kaz said he wanted to wokr on the game for 2 more years so it's pretty clear everything that comes along in the next 2 years was intended to be in the game... but now they charge extra for it.
 
I just want a Test Track (400m/1000m/MAX SPEED). I spent a good 50% of my time in past GT games doing that. Oh, and customised wheels for standard cars would be a not-too-difficult feature to implement.
 
Not only that, they are charging for car packs... Kaz said he wanted to wokr on the game for 2 more years so it's pretty clear everything that comes along in the next 2 years was intended to be in the game... but now they charge extra for it.

That combination of his comment and DLC does sting a little. I'm of the opinion that video games of GT5's entertainment level (for me at least) could go for $75. I'd probably buy it, but only if it starts at Spec 2's level and improves from there. I'm glad they don't go for $75 (yet), but I'd probably pay that for a title of GT stature. Or what I think stature they have (had?).
 
Last edited:
epic fail

I don't hate the game. WHY CAN'T PEOPLE LIKE YOU UNDERSTAND THIS?

Cause you're not biased, you first must be biased to all that GT is and never speak of the ills that is has. This is a gt forum and even us fair weather fans that love the series but are willing to say "it does look fat in that dress" when it really does, can't speak our minds.

It would be nice if the GT5 faithfuls got out of the house and realized that there is a bigger world than GT, like other sims. I've seen other big fanatics of GT give FM4 good reviews, but you can't expect this from everyone.
 
Anybody disappointed with the update, i am, new nascars that are just the same as all the other :crazy:

Standard car interior veiw, i know it says 'basic' but eww, just black outlines i'd rather not use it (was so looking forward to finally sitting in a veyron)

The new nascar photomode? whats the point, you line up a nice photo and boom the cars driven off.

Well thats just my 2cent, what about yours?

(REMOVED)
yeah the cockpit view is horrible, looks like your looking through a frame picture on a wall.I cant beleave they even released that.if your not gonna do it right, dont do it at all..
..
 
Generalizations. Not every Forza fanboy is biased, just like not every GT fanboy on this forum is. I've come across a few cool FM fanboys that weren't biased on YOUTUBE!!! of all places.

The Forza fanboys on THIS forum, well,....they know why they're here. I don't know why.
 
It's called...let's see...discussion :sick: It's cool 👍

That's fine and dandy but there is a difference between having a discussion and calling people out who don't have the same opinion as you in threads specifically created for complaints, in this case and in the thread I mentioned earlier.

vandaliser
PD and GT doesn't need defending. The game stands on it's merits. The question here is if somone doesn't like the game to the point of complaining non stop about it with the same old issues day in day out then why don't they walk away from it? If i go into a restaurant and hate the food being served, i just tell the waiter to get me something different. I don't have to complain about the food non stop. I am not being forced to eat it. similarly no one is putting a gun to anyone's head to force them to play GT.

You're the master of your own life. No one else is.

You do have a point. Maybe those people who are so unhappy should stop playing for their own good. And I see why some are tired of seeing complaints in other threads. But my point is, I still don't understand the purpose of coming to a thread where there are obviously going to be negative responses and criticizing those who weren't exactly satisfied with the update. If people can make threads praising PD all they want, then others should be allowed to have threads where they can complain and let off some steam.

And for the record, I love GT5. Play it nearly everyday and I'm eagerly looking forward to buying all the upcoming DLC. I don't know why, but I'm very sympathetic towards the complaints.
 
For instance to this day when people come over I have the urge to relive those glory days of nose to nose battles on the ring in GT... but in GT5 no 2 player replay... WTF?

I mean come on, you can get a replay of an online race with a dozen other people but no replay of a local 2 player race?

I thought they fixed the 2 player arcade replay a few updates ago. Maybe I am imagining it. Not having at release is odd.
 
ocalot2k5
And the censorship continues.

What censorship?

If you are referring to me, no where did I say you couldn't post here or there. I'm just trying to get to the bottom of why people who claim to love GT5 so much and are tired of complaints come in these type of threads. It's a huge contradiction.
 
We got to admit that Forza 4 is the new king of Racing simulation, whether we like it or not. I love GT and I'm a fan of Gt always, I love GT5 but Forza 4 made a big stride. Receive allot of great reviews and allot of new features. Hopefully Gt6 will be better. It kinda sucks that again we don't see European cars and American( especially the muscle cars ) that much in the update. My goodness another GTR. Does Nissan pay Polyphony?
 
We got to admit that Forza 4 is the new king of Racing simulation, whether we like it or not. I love GT and I'm a fan of Gt always, I love GT5 but Forza 4 made a big stride. Receive allot of great reviews and allot of new features. Hopefully Gt6 will be better. It kinda sucks that again we don't see European cars and American( especially the muscle cars ) that much in the update. My goodness another GTR. Does Nissan pay Polyphony?

Not... :lol: GT5 offers way to much for me and is still the console king of simulation in my opinion please tell me a groundbreaking new feature in FM4 I would like to know. FM4 is a step up from FM3 but is very similar beside the physics and graphic update.
 
Last edited:
They had 2 player replay before. I set up a race with the art morrison and shelby cobra to take pics. Not sure why this was removed.
 
yogaflame
We got to admit that Forza 4 is the new king of Racing simulation, whether we like it or not. I love GT and I'm a fan of Gt always, I love GT5 but Forza 4 made a big stride. Receive allot of great reviews and allot of new features. Hopefully Gt6 will be better. It kinda sucks that again we don't see European cars and American( especially the muscle cars ) that much in the update. My goodness another GTR. Does Nissan pay Polyphony?

I believe your right. I love Gt so much and always have but your right. Only thing Gt has on other racing games is that it has the best PHYSICS and GRAPHICS
 
we got to admit that forza 4 is the new king of racing simulation, whether we like it or not. I love gt and i'm a fan of gt always, i love gt5 but forza 4 made a big stride. Receive allot of great reviews and allot of new features. Hopefully gt6 will be better. It kinda sucks that again we don't see european cars and american( especially the muscle cars ) that much in the update. My goodness another gtr. Does nissan pay polyphony?
lmao, you seriously got a lot of learning to do. Although FM4 is a great game indeed.
 
Does Nissan pay Polyphony?

There have always been rumors of Nissan and PD being a little too buddy buddy for the sake of the game. I guess you could make that argument for all of the flagship nissans we see in this Gt and the last few. I always like the evidence of Kaz's N24 car to make an argument with, oh and the system that they put together as well. However, that last one I wouldn't use so much I may be wrong but didn't PD help Toyota with the Lexus HUD?

Also nor FM or GT are the king of simulation...sorry
 
A strange perception? what? so you don't have to earn cash to buy parts and cars then? I have no idea what you do with the GT games but that's been the core aspect since day one...do you only play arcade mode stuff?

A-Spec progression was business as usual initially. Untill the payout for the Seasonals was raised due to consumer feedback.

ho ho, here we go!! The usual crap from an apologist.. oh I'm a crap driver so WHAT ON EARTH am I thinking, daring to buy GT5 and think that I could possibly enjoy it....dear god I must need my head examined.

Part of the GT philosophie is to give you the means to make you a better driver. That includes setting benchmarks. It's an anachronism, sure, but you acn make this concept work for you on many layers. "Walk before you run", and such old fashioned nonsense.

What I want is proper FAIR racing, where the Ai can keep up with me and FIGHT me for the lead/position I'm in.

There you go:
Click

You can have the most exciting white knuckle races, if you put a bit of good will and effort in it.

Again, it is an anachronism to make me cycle through line ups and all.

And maybe you prefer rubberbanded AI. Fair enough, Grid and Midnight Club 3 have done a very good job with it. I wouldn't mind having such an option at all.

However, have you ever done anything at all to contribute to the gaming experience?

Like actually posting some useful info in a thread like I just posted? No? How come?

Through a joint effort, we now know the laptimes of the AI in the 4 hours Nürburgring race. We found a grid where there are up to 6 cars putting in similar times, which should make the 4 hours fly by in no time. Done by just a few people.

But I guess that's asking too much from people busy all day long reassuring themselves, that GT5 is crap. Well, I hold strong views of how much value they add to the parts of the community I appreciate.
 
Back