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Get in here then champ.It's gone beyond constructive criticism now. It's now complaining for complaining's sake.
And suprise suprise it's the same people again and again. To some people it makes no difference. This is not about a game anymore. some people are just debbie downers and depressed by nature. No amount of updates or patches or positivity is going to change that.
If i were kaz, i would simply roll my eyes and just move on. Is it any suprise why PD does not even send any sort of CM in here on this supposed biggest GT fan site?
Sometimes i really feel for kaz and PD. A really massive update after a year with spa added as DLC and some people are just not even happy. No thanks. No gratitude. Nothing. Just complaints and whinging. It would be so easy for kaz to say **** this and move on. But he's too nice a man to do that.
Kaz, a message for you. It's wasted on some people. I guess it depends on your outlook on life. If moan and whinge alot on GT then chances are you do so in real life too, But that's my opinion anyways. No disrespect to anyone
So why aren't all the people in here that feel a need to run around defending GT5 with every ounce of spare strength they have posting anything in this appreciation thread?
I think the same thing can be said about the "create thumbnail" option and why PD created the "All" option. That time builds up and by then it just gets tedious. That's why I stopped changing oil immediately after buying cars.
GT3 had it right. It was so quick and easy. Same goes for the car wash.
Exactly. It just doesn't make any sense. Reminds me of those who constantly came into the "Is anyone else disappointed with GT5?" thread and ragged on those who posted in there.
I mean, come on people. Read the thread title. It clearly expresses a negative opinion towards the GT5 update, and a polar opposite of this thread exists already. Why are on earth are you coming in here if it makes you so irritated to see people talk badly about it?
Yup exactly. ^^
Also it was much easier and more fun to make money in GT1-4, the prize roulette was awesome too.
GT kinda lost its soul and thats what is annoying about all the complainers, complaining (dare I say trolling?!) about the slightest critisism...
I still love GT tho and I think Kaz knows what the real fans want, its just hard to deliver obviously.
only thing im really disappointed about is the ferrari seasonal event the prize money was dropped back down and no more half off on the cars in the ocd http://dig.la/HB
H20HYBRID_GTProbably the same wise people who come in a complaints thread telling everyone to stop complaining.![]()
CSLACRSo why aren't all the people in here that feel a need to run around defending GT5 with every ounce of spare strength they have posting anything in this appreciation thread?
Get in here then champ.
You're not complaining about GT5, so what are you looking for? A fight.
This is a discussion board. It's not your call to decide what to post where.
I dunno, is it? The people who frequent the dozens of appreciation threads the game has gotten since it came out go out of their way to raise hell whenever anybody expresses anything negative in any of them. Every. Single. Time.So is the purpose of the thread just for people who dislike the update to rub each other's backs?
I dunno, is it? The people who frequent the dozens of appreciation threads the game has gotten since it came out go out of their way to raise hell whenever anybody expresses anything negative in any of them. Every. Single. Time.
If dissent isn't allowed in them, I see no reason why it should be allowed in here.
If dissent isn't allowed in them, I see no reason why it should be allowed in here.
They improved the game, waaaah!
The AI is improved, waaah! Hardly worth having AI if they aren't hitting into you all the time.
The physics is improved, waaah! Hardly worth driving anymore if it's more realistic.
Loading times are reduced, waaah! Hardly worth loading the game anymore now it loads more quickly.
There's more cars, waaah....
They really should have done better. I wanted every car ever made in this update, every track ever made too. I want it free and I want it a year ago.
Oh well I guess I will just buy FM4 or whatever it's called. It's got awesome car sounds like GT1 had and the smashes look spectacular.
That direction being? Don't get me wrong I crave for more expert seasonals and dearly miss the driving missions from GT4 to name just two examples. But I got over it and took full benefit of what GT5 has to offer. Some huge issues were improved with Spec2. Full day/night cycles on the two 24 hours tracks. That feature alone offers more than any console racer (save the out of date Grid). Want manufacturer races? There are 1000 of them, just head over to practice mode. I miss the classic tracks as much as the next person. I miss Motegi every time I watch an episode of BestMotoring. So what? They'll be back eventually. Or not. Who knows.
I'm not wasting such a great driving experience (running the Nürburgring in the exact same car as Kaz did this year for crying out loud) just because it's not GT4 in HD.
I even consider buying a 3D monitor because it's the first time since Magic Carpet I can play a game in stereoscopic 3D on a bleeding 300€ piece of hardware.
So take a break, step one step back, and give it a fresh start.
The problem is, since I have almost finished the game, and I cannot use the online mode, there's pretty much nothing I can do to exploit this last update, except lapping the nurburgring in practice mode, which is basically the only thing I have been doing in GT5 in the last few months. PD, was it THAT hard to implement another bundle of A-spec races? That was sincerely the only thing I was expecting to revitalize the game, and it's missing. It seems like PD lacks on organization, they just pointlessly roam from one aspect to another within the game without actually fixing any of them. I don't mind having more racing suits, more paints or more GT-R, when I will not be able to use any of them to actually race in some competition.
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I don't care about artificial difficulty like the expert seasonals and the old GT4 missions. I want a REALISTIC racing expereince. and please no-one say the tired old "but it's not a racing games it's the "real driving simulator""....the CORE gameplay of the GTs has been RACE, earn money, buy
parts, buy more cars, RACE more...etc etc. It's ALL ABOUT RACING and the Aspec racing experience of GT5 is completely and utterly crap and PD are doing NOTHING to improve it.
It's okay to be a minority and to post criticism. It's better than okay if there is critical reasoning instead of cheap quips from users who are just flaming.
2) The Ai is still dog slow around corners and brakes when I'm near them.
And another one.
(It is not another one. It's me.)
Your post shows exactly the quality I just fell short of raving about.
So it's PDs fault you can't use online? How did you get the update in the first place then?
(The online should be a plus to every game. PD delivered quite a big and enjoyable game, but failed on making it durable by inexplicably cut the available races)
Yes, I would love to see more challenging Seasonals like the Expert one. But guess what? People started complainig again because they found the challenge too hard and, presumably, didn't want to spend some actual time on the race.
What exactly stops you from starting from scratch with the new improved physics and take advantage of the standard interiors just for a little dash of extra immersion?
(Nothing stops me from doing that, but again, I would find the A-spec to be boring, incomplete and short. Sorta deja-vu)
You have a very strange perception of the GT series, mate, I grant you that. No wonder you are unhappy.
(I have been playing to GT1, GT2, GT3, GT4 and GT5 'til my fingers bled. You won't find a bigger enthusiast of gt series, but that does not keep me away from complaining about what I dislike and what seemed to me a step backward PD takes. Being a gt fan, in fact, still doesn't make a fan boy out of me.)
All in all, it seems that if you try and point out what you disliked of the game, after spending 1 year playing at it, and even in a post called "update 2.0 disappointment" you will be bashed and flamed to death. Just grow up and get some criticisms, or at least try to accept that other people might have it.
That was sincerely the only thing I was expecting to revitalize the game, and it's missing. It seems like PD lacks on organization, they just pointlessly roam from one aspect to another within the game without actually fixing any of them.
You have a very strange perception of the GT series, mate, I grant you that. No wonder you are unhappy.
And on two sidenotes:
First: Video or it didn't happen. Go to the settings, crank up the AI setting to 10, go to "A-level" in Arcade, race 7 laps on any track you like without SRF. Make a video showing you destroying the AI (or them jumping in the ditches).
Second: If you found the Expert seasonal (or the GT4 driving missions) "artificially hard", then you're not much of a racer and missed the whole point of GT altogether. This is not PGR (though that was fun, too).
Sorry to have offended you, but in the light of:
So a feature you have wished for is missing and that equals PD being off track and incompetent? Really? Or is it more that the past updates showed a steady improvment in graphics, tweaks in AI, and finally physics with Spec2 on top of everything?
I am glad of having this update, most of all the renewed physics and the possibility of saving endurance races. That, and SPA, obviously.
I bought GT5 on release day, played it hard for a month or so and then put it away because of the serious problems with the core of the game. Then the news hits about 2.0 and my excitement level rises just a touch.
Then update time comes and the AI is still trash, and the tire model is still broken.
When the company adds window dressing without attending to the core issues that are badly in need of repair it speaks volumes to the mentality of the company.
PD obviously is happy with how these things are, and as such is no longer the company that can produce a good racing game. I had a ton of hope for GT5. I even kept my hope up when the game at release was so messed up. I kept that hope while waiting for some of those badly needed fixes. Now, I am fairly confident that GT5 will never be the great game that it could have been, and will always be an unfinished piece of software. At least I hope it is that way because if PD thinks the game is complete as is than they are even more lost than I had thought.
PD really crapped in their own hand on this one.
If they had to make changes to the core that would effectively need them to launch an entirely new copy of the game, thats why the fixes that Codemasters needed to do for F2010 are only seen in F2011, think of it as being the same as Hotmail or Gmail having to change the entire back end system of its entire network.