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If you were critical of GT5 at the beginning and now converted to a FanBoy post why here.
I was critical of GT5 in the beginning but am now converted to a number 1 fan. I play only Gt5 at the moment both online in 3 championship series and do the seasonal events and soon will do the enduros because of the upcoming update. In all my gaming years (the very beginning of computer games) i have never seen a game develop and evolve like it. As soon as a problem or just an idea suggested on a forum comes up PD are able to implemented it and so quickly. I'm so glad i have nothing bad to say about the game anymore, there are some online public room complaints but that’s to do with poor internet connections and poor etiquette drivers.
Be playing this game for a long time both in hours of each day and years to come, Great job PD keep up the good work and i think you’ll get the driving game of the year and maybe decade.

Feel free to post both positive and negative views but keep it to the game it self and not connection or idiot driver complaints there is plenty of those post about and PD can’t fix that. If we keep it to game programming issues or thing you would like to see implemented into the game, they are listening and it may happen going on what’s happened so far.
 
I was a critic on gt5 and i play forza 3 very much, now i only play gt5. But in still ciritical regarding these two games. In fact i bought ps3 just fot gt5.
 
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I was a critic on gt5 and i play forza 3 very much, now i only play gt5. But in still ciritical regarding these two games. In fact i bought ps3 just fot gt5.
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If you are critical feel free to state why, thats what this thread is all about. Good or Bad, Glad or sad
 
I'm still critical of it.

The main reason being, I am still astounded that the things they are adding were not in the initial release.

I'd still like to see proper leaderboards, or leaderboard challenges that are not a 2 week stint. And a record of my laps for a given car on a given track - even if they were during a race.

I did not have some grand delusional expectation of what Gran Turismo 5 would be, but it missed the mark, and hasn't quite got to where it should have been at release.

That being said, I love this game, and it's given me some of the best racing experiences online.
 
Still critical of it until AI are improved in what little Aspec races there are. I thought well I will just use an under powered car when going back through these events and at first it seemed to make the race better, like on a 5 lap race it would take about 4 laps to get in position to try and take first place only to get within a car length from first and the AI lifts off the gas applies brake until I pass him with no challenge at all . When this is fixed then I will become a supporter of GT5 !
 
I think its a case of little too late. The game is too short in just about every facet of gaming and so many people will be moving on in the coming months, as if many already haven't. Of course the campaign is way too short, and the online is severely lacking and features. Try again PD, with GT6.
 
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Thats fine but please state why, what's peeing you off about it.
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Well coming from GT5 Prologue, I had huge expectations. I remember saying to myself all PD would need to do is add more cars and tracks and this game will be brilliant. They did that, but they also added a mass of content which somehow manages to detract from the whole experience.

The AI is somehow worse than in GT5P (not to mention the awful collision sounds), the graphical glitches are terribly off-putting, there are only a handful more tracks, and the inclusion of stanard cars just makes the whole game seem half ar#ed.

I was also excited by the promise of NASCAR, JGTC and WRC, but none of them were implemented effectively. I mean we didn't even get qualifying for god sake, there's only a couple of NASCAR tracks and not one point-to-point rally stage! And of course the whole Top Gear thing was a complete failure...

I can't help but think how much better it would have been if they had narrowed their focus a little and done everything properly, because (as I just wrote in another thread) some aspects of the game are brilliant in isolation. Brought together, though, the whole thing is a mess
 
xNEVER-ONEx
I think its a case of little too late. The game is too short in just about every facet of gaming and so many people will be moving on in the coming months, as if many already haven't. Of course the campaign is way too short, and the online is severely lacking and features. Try again PD, with GT6.
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Too short? what games you been playing that make you feel this is too short? You doing seasonal events and got to level 40?
But online is where the most fun is if you got good people to race with, Ai was always going to be beatable once you learnt to drive.
 
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Well coming from GT5 Prologue, I had huge expectations. I remember saying to myself all PD would need to do is add more cars and tracks and this game will be brilliant. They did that, but they also added a mass of content which somehow manages to detract from the whole experience.

The AI is somehow worse than in GT5P (not to mention the awful collision sounds), the graphical glitches are terribly off-putting, there are only a handful more tracks, and the inclusion of stanard cars just makes the whole game seem half ar#ed.

I was also excited by the promise of NASCAR, JGTC and WRC, but none of them were implemented effectively. I mean we didn't even get qualifying for god sake, there's only a couple of NASCAR tracks and not one point-to-point rally stage! And of course the whole Top Gear thing was a complete failure...

I can't help but think how much better it would have been if they had narrowed their focus a little and done everything properly, because (as I just wrote in another thread) some aspects of the game are brilliant in isolation. Brought together, though, the whole thing is a mess
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If they narrowed their focus to what you wanted they would have a rally or nascar game, maybee you should have shopped aroud for one of those typ of games and not GT which everyone know what type of game it is
 
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Too short? what games you been playing that make you feel this is too short? You doing seasonal events and got to level 40?
But online is where the most fun is if you got good people to race with, Ai was always going to be beatable once you learnt to drive.
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Yes, the game is too short. The A-spec can be finished in less than 3 days. Have you played GT4 or even GT3? Very long campaigns. I could care less about level 40 because 1) its not worth it and 2) it's impossible without massive grinding. The only is severely lacking in features, go play other games, even other racing games and they blow this game's online out of the water. No match making? Inconsistent penalties. Lack of variety. Yes, the game is too short. Lots of content, but its all poorly organized and utilized.
 
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If they narrowed their focus to what you wanted they would have a rally or nascar game, maybee you should have shopped aroud for one of those typ of games and not GT which everyone know what type of game it is
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Which is exactly my point. I would rather they had left these things out and spent time refining the AI system and adding qualifying and modelling more premium cars and tracks etc. If they hadn't spent so much time on NASCAR etc., we might have ended up with a much more polished game.

I know what type of game Gran Turismo has always been (which is why I bought GT5) but it seems PD tried to change that. If they had stuck to what they have always been good at and refined the whole package it would have been much more successful in my opinion
 
Nope, still pretty critical, and I'm playing FM3 tons more. GT5 rarely gets turned on for anything other than grinding.

But I'm being patient with this game though and waiting for things PD said are coming such as matchmaking, GT Driver's Club, the ability to save for endurance races, etc. I'm depending on these features to get me back into GT5 again.
 
xNEVER-ONEx
Yes, the game is too short. The A-spec can be finished in less than 3 days. Have you played GT4 or even GT3? Very long campaigns. I could care less about level 40 because 1) its not worth it and 2) it's impossible without massive grinding. The only is severely lacking in features, go play other games, even other racing games and they blow this game's online out of the water. No match making? Inconsistent penalties. Lack of variety. Yes, the game is too short. Lots of content, but its all poorly organized and utilized.
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Finished in 3 days and not concerned about levels? You need to achieve higher levels to open new events and I don't know any one who has done all the licence test finished campaign, done all the special events and got to level 30 in 3 days, you haven’t finished the game at all have you? .
Any way you are entitled to your opinion and that’s what this forum is about so i respect your honesty. Other racing games? I’m interested in your opinion here, what are these super superior games that blow this away I would like to see that, no realy that’s what this thread is about, I’m expecting this game to get voted Racing game of the year, was on F1 2010 getting it but now converted to GT5 getting it.
 
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Finished in 3 days and not concerned about levels? You need to achieve higher levels to open new events and I don't know any one who has done all the licence test finished campaign, done all the special events and got to level 30 in 3 days, you haven’t finished the game at all have you? .
Any way you are entitled to your opinion and that’s what this forum is about so i respect your honesty. Other racing games? I’m interested in your opinion here, what are these super superior games that blow this away I would like to see that, no realy that’s what this thread is about, I’m expecting this game to get voted Racing game of the year, was on F1 2010 getting it but now converted to GT5 getting it.
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Well, NFS hot pursuit has a wonderful online set up. Its seamless, user friendly and you end up more time racing than finding a room (like you do in GT5). As for the offline, I completed the license test, but only recently because they bored the hell out of me, and only reason I went back to finish them was because I couldn't think of what to do. For the special events, they were fun and challenging, but only a one time thing. The A-spec I finished in a few days, but I would have finished earlier if I played the game more often. Yes, i am still only at 90% completion, but I have only golding events left and the endurance races, neither of which are worth my time.
 
I am still very much critical. now, admittedly, I haven't played it since 1.07, but it doesn't look like they've changed the issues I had with it before.
 
I have always been an GT fanboy, and was devastated at the release of GT5 because it was the same as always with nothing new!

Now after some months and updates it's the most played GT for me and I just love it.
There are still lots of things to improve, but you really find that in every game.

I'm glad that PD is still patching GT5.
 
I was a critic at first and still am now. PD's patches and updates don't impress me, all they do is add features that should have been there from day 1, that's not evolving, it's fixing their mistakes, no big deal in my opinion, Atari are doing the same with TDU2.

The single player mode of the game is shallow with around half the events of the GT4 and PD have made no attempt in 3 months to sort it out either through free updates or paid DLC and before you mention seasonal events, no, they don't count. Seasonal events are not races, they're just longer versions of the S licence tests and as I've said numerous times, they're a half-arsed attempt at what people really want.

After update 1.07 we can now add into the equation that PD want to stop people playing the game the way they want, you can now no longer gift 1m+ cars, this is just another thinly veiled attempt by PD to artificially prolong a shallow game, forcing people to grind for hours, days, weeks and months to obtain a few expensive cars that people will probably try out then forget about. There's enough grinding involved with the level system and poor A-Spec race payouts, not to mention the fact that you can't sell a lot of cars in the game despite the fact you bought them, buy a 4m cr Sauber C9, don't like it, can't sell it on, plain stupid. I could go on more but I'll leave it there.
 
I wasn't completely happy with the game before, and i'm not completely happy with the game now.
Yes they patched some of the bugs and enchanted the gameplay a bit and I congratulate them for doing that. BUT...
I am level 32 A-Spec and 30 B-Spec and I don't have internet for my PS3 at the moment. What's there for me to do? Grind? Hah.
They keep missing, or avoiding, the main thing that makes racing games last long. Restrictions and more 🤬 events.
 
AUS_Topgear
In all my gaming years (the very beginning of computer games) i have never seen a game develop and evolve like it. As soon as a problem or just an idea suggested on a forum comes up PD are able to implemented it and so quickly.
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That must be an illusion by yourself. You are right, that there are some thing added, which the community was asking for.

But in my opinion, it seems to be random, because not even half of what the community is asking for was added yet and PD seems to add their own ideas. More important, that the bigger wishes weren´t added, yet. Watch the feedback section to see, what it is.
 
The way you have to buy standard cars is a CRAP!
30 cars available from 800. And you have to cycle days spending hours just to find car you want with specific color (if it's not paintable) is VERY annoying. No playing involved in such masturbating process.
All standard cars should be available for buying just like premiums. UCD should be just the place where you can buy cars by cheaper price due to usage and mileage.

Whole GT5 philosophy is masturbating and masturbating. I hate this philosophy!
 
I am on the opposite side as well, I stopped playing Gran Turismo 5 completely.

I was quite pumped before the release of GT5. All those trailers, the pictures, the infos of the almost endless content. But when I bought the game and started my way through A-Spec, I just didn't feel at home. I thought this might be a temporary effect, and that the fun would come over time. But it didn't. I played my way though A-Spec (up to level 29) and B-Spec (up to level 25), but the game soon started to feel like a chore to me. I came to a dead halt when I unlocked the Formula GT championship. I only did the seasonals from then on, only for the payout. When that disappeared as well, I pretty much stopped playing completely. I did buy a couple of cars for fun, such as the McLaren F1. Had a great time in that for two days doing free runs and races, then it became boring to me (also because it turned out the gearbox is too long, an error on PD's side).

So I started to look what else there is. I stumbled over Test Drive Unlimited 2, and my PS3 hasn't seen the GT disc ever since I started playing TDU2.

The biggest problem I have with GT5 is that it doesn't speak to me. It doesn't urge me to play it. Before I moved over to TDU2, I came home from work, saw my PS3, thought of GT5, switched it on reluctantly and had B-Spec gather me some money. I can't even tell you why, I just did it. But I asked myself:"Why am I doing this?". At that moment, I knew I would start to look for fun elsewhere. Now, even before I am home, I am looking forward to play TDU2. It surely is a worse game in certain details, but the package as a whole is so much more attractive to me, which is the major key. I understand that a lot of people make the best of what GT5 has on offer, which is a great way to get along with the game. I however need a good overall experience. I remember sitting in front of my tv, watching a replay of GT5 and drooling at the incredible graphics. But at the end of the day, a few good things don't counter a load of bad things for me, which ruins the experience as a whole.

The game doesn't challenge me when I want to be challenged, the game doesn't reward me when I should be rewarded. It's not that I ran out of things to do in GT5, there are loads of things I haven't done yet. My problem is that I stopped wanting to do things in GT5. To me, GT5 feels like it slaps me on the hand all the time, forbidding me to do what I would like to do. There is a lot of content, but almost nothing seems finished to me. Where are Top Gear challenges? Why can't I do proper standing start laps on the TG test track against their leaderboard? Where's the Stig? Where are the reasonably priced cars? Where is proper Nascar racing (where the AI doesn't shove you off the track)? Where are proper WRC stages? Where is a proper Super GT championship with different classes on the track? Where is more depth in tuning? Where are more race modifications? These guys are Japanese - where is Touge racing?

All of this potential, just gone up in smoke. When I watch a GT5 trailer, it gives me the chills even now. It implies great things to be in this game. But they just aren't there. It's like the trailers show you a glimpse of an endless world, but when you get there, you notice that the world actually ends right behind the glimpse.

I haven't been playing GT5 ever since patch 1.07, and it never looked back since. I won't sell this game, and I'm not saying I will not ever give it another chance in the future. I've been a diehard Gran Turismo fan since part 1, and I don't give up so easily. But even if there will be a bootload of more patching, I don't really see anything that could get me to play this game for a longer period of time, simply because I don't believe they will be changing the structure of A-Spec and many more key aspects of the game on such a fundamental level that brings me to like it. But I have made my peace with GT5. It is what it is, and if it doesn't appeal to me, it's sad but true. I will keep looking at what they make of it, and I will be curious what and when GT6 will be. In the meantime however, I live in another world, and quite happily at that.
 
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After playing GT5 Prologue for over a year I had high hopes for the full edition of GT5. Sadly the high hopes where to high. The graphics looked worse than GT5p and the AI disapointed my, still rubberbanding:grumpy:. The seasonal events makes me realise that the AI can't be raced 1 on 1, only playing catchup gives some challenge (till you know the laptimes you need to drive and it becomes a timetrail and not a race). A lot of great tracks from Gt4 aren't in GT5, the new tracks are great, but it still feels like a big open wound. A-spec is fun but it never gets my adrenaline pumping. And on top of the a lost my save game a I had to start al over again.

The part i am realy like in GT5 are the big amount of cars, i am learning a lot about the history of cars.

But the best part is the Nurburgring, it's just perfect and it makes my to forget everything I don't like about GT5.

My conclusion about GT5: GT5 is a beautifull game, briljant in details but lacking in the overall lines.
 
At launch my opinion of the game was basically

"it's GT, it has some fantastic elements, and some really weird quirks and shortcomings... the shortcomings seem to be more present than in earlier iterations. Still a very good game when all the pro's and con's are weighed... but not by far as great as it could quite easily be"

This hasn't changed much to be honest.

I do appreciate the updates that have been done so far. It seems PD does intent to "perfect" the game over time.

However, while some of my issues have been addressed, the major ones haven't really been touched.

Most notably:

-waaaaay too few Aspec events. Ideally, I want to be able to race any car I choose, on any track, against competitive AI and for proper rewards. Custom Aspec races, it seems such a logical game-design decision.... (the seasonals help a bit, but they hardly put a dent in my concern)

-unwieldy online system. Where's the "find a race for my current car" option? Why aren't there pre-set races to compete in? Championships? Etc....

-Tuning dumbed down while it should have been much more elaborate. Seriously, tuning a grocery-hatchback to produce a few more HP, or upgrading the suspension, costs the same as on a Ferrari? Could go on for hours here...
 
I used to be a fan at the beginning, now I'm its number 1 critic.

Each patch (and Seasonals) just highlights the deficiencies that the game shipped with.

Of all the games I've bought, I haven't seen one having a more lazy and incompetent developer.
 
I'm as critical of GT5 as I have always been and its going to take years more of updates to bring it up to the game it should have been at launch. All other competitors have raised the bar but PD have seemed cocky and delivered something which they knew would sell anyway eventhough its not all that good by todays standards. 20% of the cars are pretty and thats basically it!

Robin.
 

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