GT5 Review scores (Update :Average metacritic score)

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squishydk
After I have played it a while now, i will personally give it 9/10, i can put a finger on what it misses, but something is missing, and its not dmg or the typical things people whine about. But overall its a game that makes me put a smile on my face, and sometimes a frustrated mine, as i do licenses :D It delivers what i expected, and more too...

I highly doubt reviews overall will avg much higher than 7/10 approx... most reviewers either.

1) Dont like car games
2) If they like car games, they like arcadish ones
3) If they like racing/sim, they know gt 1-4 and will compare it, and say "5 years" yada yada yada....
4) If they lige GT5, it would still be over ruled overall by 1) 2) and 3) :D
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Exactly. Most game reviewers aren't "car guys." They are "video game guys." The two can meet in a Gran Turismo fan *raises hand* but I don't know how many video game reviewers are that.

They'll see the license tests, the complicated tuning system, no immediate damage, the insane hype, the 5 year development time, and judge the game harshly.

Plus, PD didn't spend millions and millions of dollars to advertise on their sites *cough* COD *cough* so they'll really have no vested interest in giving the game the benefit of the doubt.

Giving Gran Turismo 5 a bad score will almost be a feather in their cap. "See... we can give the big games bad reviews too!"

So, if I had a word of warning for everyone, it would be this... Do Not Read Any Reviews.

I know that's wasted advice though, because I'm going to be right their reading them all with you guys. :)
 
Yea I think GT5 isn't going to do well in its reviews. It is a serious driving/car game that is going to be reviewed by non car people. Good Luck :lol:

However, someone at Gamespot and IGN is going to be reviewing it for the general audience. Let them give their score, because that is what the general audience will probably think of it. However, if this game averages above an 8 out of 10, then that is a big win in my book.
 
squishydk
I highly doubt reviews overall will avg much higher than 7/10 approx... most reviewers either.

1) Dont like car games
2) If they like car games, they like arcadish ones
3) If they like racing/sim, they know gt 1-4 and will compare it, and say "5 years" yada yada yada....
4) If they lige GT5, it would still be over ruled overall by 1) 2) and 3) :D
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squishydk
After I have played it a while now, i will personally give it 9/10, i can put a finger on what it misses, but something is missing, and its not dmg or the typical things people whine about. But overall its a game that makes me put a smile on my face, and sometimes a frustrated mine, as i do licenses :D It delivers what i expected, and more too...

I highly doubt reviews overall will avg much higher than 7/10 approx... most reviewers either.

1) Dont like car games
2) If they like car games, they like arcadish ones
3) If they like racing/sim, they know gt 1-4 and will compare it, and say "5 years" yada yada yada....
4) If they lige GT5, it would still be over ruled overall by 1) 2) and 3) :D
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Absolute BULL CRAP, All other Gt games, Forza, even herd core PC sims from sim bin have gotten great reviews across the board. Maybe if scores are lower is because its below whats expected, after all these years.
 
TK42OnE
Exactly. Most game reviewers aren't "car guys." They are "video game guys." The two can meet in a Gran Turismo fan *raises hand* but I don't know how many video game reviewers are that.

They'll see the license tests, the complicated tuning system, no immediate damage, the insane hype, the 5 year development time, and judge the game harshly.

Plus, PD didn't spend millions and millions of dollars to advertise on their sites *cough* COD *cough* so they'll really have no vested interest in giving the game the benefit of the doubt.

Giving Gran Turismo 5 a bad score will almost be a feather in their cap. "See... we can give the big games bad reviews too!"

So, if I had a word of warning for everyone, it would be this... Do Not Read Any Reviews.

I know that's wasted advice though, because I'm going to be right their reading them all with you guys. :)
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More bull, many reviewing will have played all other Gt games and be fans, not all but many, many previews already say as much.
 
TK42OnE
Exactly. Most game reviewers aren't "car guys." They are "video game guys." The two can meet in a Gran Turismo fan *raises hand* but I don't know how many video game reviewers are that.
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And this represents the majority of the gaminng world as well... So the reviews targeted at such people by such people is honestly one of the fairest ways to do it...

It doesn't serve a site well to have a niche reviewer review a game... while his review might sit well with the niche gamers while giving false impressions to the average gamer (who makes up the majority - by definition for the average).
 
Devedander
And this represents the majority of the gaminng world as well... So the reviews targeted at such people by such people is honestly one of the fairest ways to do it...

It doesn't serve a site well to have a niche reviewer review a game... while his review might sit well with the niche gamers while giving false impressions to the average gamer (who makes up the majority - by definition for the average).
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It doesn't? I don't know. I guess that depends on what you assume a game reviewers job is.

Is it to tell people what the reviewer thinks they'll like, or what the reviewer likes?

Most reviewers, or a lot of reviewers I should say, gave great reviews to "niche" PS3 games like Demon's Souls and Valkyria Chronicles, yet, judging by the sales of those two games, the majority of gamers didn't share those opinions.
 
Jarmo
The developers have said that it takes months to model a car and years to model a track down to the detail.

What do you think they could have done had they not included the standard cars? Get 50 more premium cars in maybe? 2 more tracks?
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This thread is so negative, it should be renamed to GT5 Review scores/Rage thread.. lol

Negative Warning!
One of my problems is kaz stuck with the old ways of making the cars/tracks..
when after gt4 they could of gone and invested in a (expensive mind you) laser scanner or like forza did on one or two of there best cars that tape with wire in it that imports into the computer as a mesh at all the points the tape crosses over at.. would of been very very good investments as the tracks wouldnt of taken that long, just scanning it all in then textures, over the hit and miss moddling they did, they could of scanned in the cars very very fast and then done mesh, leaving more time to do the physics and feel for each car.. and they could of done the same to do the interior with the scanning.. kaz should of hired more people as well.. this is a huge game and really needs a team of the same size lol. i agree with silly stuff like the combi and tank/tractor/beetle/boat thing haha. but look on the bright side..

What they did do, was well done and better having standards then not!
Personally i cant wait for gt5 and will be picking it up tomorrow :) (aus)
Wish the sc300 was premium lol.. personally my only (realistic) ask for gt5 is an update that lets me put new rims on the sc300..

Also alot of people need to experience bathurst.. i did thousands of laps around that track in v8 supercars 2.. ahh good memorys:)
 
mastorofpuppetz
Absolute BULL CRAP, All other Gt games, Forza, even herd core PC sims from sim bin have gotten great reviews across the board. Maybe if scores are lower is because its below whats expected, after all these years.
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Thank you for the kind words, i will hereby refer to my previous statement:

3) If they like racing/sim, they know gt 1-4 and will compare it, and say "5 years" yada yada yada....

Meaning, people expect insane stuff just because it has taken 5 years. We haven't got a new console for a long period, and the one we have now has limitations (true story!!!) Theres only so much you can do at once. People expecting greatness will always be dissapointed somehow.

If people use 5 years as an argument for giving a bad review (wich im sure many will, and i can see allready are doing) then you also need to think about, what exactly did they spend those 5 years on. The game itself, or 200 SUBLIME cars. could they have finished it sooner? Perhaps. would people have been satisified then? No - Will people ever be? No...

There are many many reasons behind everything, often reasons we dont know. You need to consider more than just 5 years is a long time, compared to.... COD... or something.

I still think GT5 will get bad reviews overall, and i largely think it will because of the hype, and the 5 years deal. If it was a totally new game, named XXXXX something, i bet it would have aced the reviews. But GT has a legacy, and GT5 will suffer from that...
 
TK42OnE
It doesn't? I don't know. I guess that depends on what you assume a game reviewers job is.

Is it to tell people what the reviewer thinks they'll like, or what the reviewer likes?

Most reviewers, or a lot of reviewers I should say, gave great reviews to "niche" PS3 games like Demon's Souls and Valkyria Chronicles, yet, judging by the sales of those two games, the majority of gamers didn't share those opinions.
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Well it depends on the site I guess... I mean at ISR it definitely behooves them to have sim nerds review the games... but at places like IGN or Gamespot their main job is to illustrate to the masses what they are likely to feel about the game.

In all honestly having a sim nerd review a game on a big game site would only tell those of us who are already getting the game what we already know and probably get a LOT of average gamers thinking "WTF were they talking about?"
 
Knoxcore
I much rather IGN than any other site. At least IGN tries to provide a professional review. Their team is top notch in my opinion. I know many people disagree with that.
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I agree. They do give a game a good score if it deserves it, and bad if it deserves it. They gave MGS4 10/10 !!! THat alone says how good they are at rating games. Also they wont give a good game a bad score just to get attention like that French website that review GT5.

I am thinking IGN will give GT5 8.9-9.6
 
Devedander
Well it depends on the site I guess... I mean at ISR it definitely behooves them to have sim nerds review the games... but at places like IGN or Gamespot their main job is to illustrate to the masses what they are likely to feel about the game.

In all honestly having a sim nerd review a game on a big game site would only tell those of us who are already getting the game what we already know and probably get a LOT of average gamers thinking "WTF were they talking about?"
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Then again, a food-review is done by a food nerd. And a book review by a book nerd. At least where im from. When i read about all sorts of (to me) weird food, i also goes in a little mental corner thinking, what the.. is happening here. But it's the best way in my honest opinion.
 
NoxNoctis Umbra
I agree. They do give a game a good score if it deserves it, and bad if it deserves it. They gave MGS4 10/10 !!! THat alone says how good they are at rating games. Also they wont give a good game a bad score just to get attention like that French website that review GT5.

I am thinking IGN will give GT5 8.9-9.6
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IGN scores in 0.5 increments now, so that would round to a 9.0-9.5. And I agree :) Can't see them giving it the same or less than Prologue (8.5).
 
NoxNoctis Umbra
I agree. They do give a game a good score if it deserves it, and bad if it deserves it. They gave MGS4 10/10 !!! THat alone says how good they are at rating games. Also they wont give a good game a bad score just to get attention like that French website that review GT5.

I am thinking IGN will give GT5 8.9-9.6
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You couldn't be more wrong... IGN have one of the least professional band of writers.
 
squishydk
Then again, a food-review is done by a food nerd. And a book review by a book nerd. At least where im from. When i read about all sorts of (to me) weird food, i also goes in a little mental corner thinking, what the.. is happening here. But it's the best way in my honest opinion.
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I agree. I dont mean to be rude but I couldnt care less about the opinion of anyone who doesnt have a good feel for realistic car dynamics, or understands gt5 isnt trying to simply overload to your senses. It's simply trying to re create realism as best as it can.

I've noticed all these reviewers and people who dont like the game havent a clue about driving or racing, and becaue the game isnt overloading their sense like nfs or other arcadey games out there, it feels less realistic to them, because they only asscoate realism with the magnitude at which a game makes them feel stuff like speed shaking sounds fun addiictive cool looking manevours etc...
 
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WeinerSchnitzel
...And GameTrailers keep making GT5 look bad

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/classic-corvette-gran-turismo/707826#comments_top

Damage turned all the way off.
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Unless they have a cheat for it, then it seems pretty much what you get when you buy the game? I havent unlocked any mindblowing dmg, or anything just close to yet... Wouldn't it be a lie if they put a video full of dmg, if there isn't dmg in current version fx.? If you think GT5 looks bad in that trailer, its not the site that makes GT looks bad, its GT that makes GT look bad ;)
 
squishydk
Then again, a food-review is done by a food nerd. And a book review by a book nerd. At least where im from. When i read about all sorts of (to me) weird food, i also goes in a little mental corner thinking, what the.. is happening here. But it's the best way in my honest opinion.
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Yes and they are often read by dedicated foodies which is the equivalent of you or me reading an ISR review.

But when I read the Michelen guide or Zagat reviews they are often way over my head, recommend things as being incredible that to me are just "olk and really expensive" and don't work for the vast majority of people who just want a decent tasting hot meal for a decent price.

That's where shows like "Check Please Bay Area" and Yelp come into play... reviews for the average joe by the aveage joe. A hot soup thats not over salted and a juicy steak for $20 is appreciated there but a rare Belgian truffle sauteed in a sauce with more ingredients than my last meal doesn't necessarily garner rave reviews... especially at a price.

Have you ever heard some a somalie (SP) describe a fine wine? If you are wine coniseur you will love it and it will be what you want to hear. But if you aren't, it's worthless and his recommendation on a $900 bottle will be wasted on you.

So there is a place for the niche review, for ISR to tell you and I what we already know about GT5.

But for the big gaming sites who's main bread and butter is Joe Average, they don't want to be putting up rave reviews of things that their major clientelle won't agree with or appreciate.

Why does the average game review include such people who aren't car nuts and gear heads? Because quite simply, a large part of the game market is not dedicated car nuts and gear heads.
 
Mr Turismo
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=277401&site=psm



W.T.F ?

O.M.G ! Its a massacration...

i´ve saw better things being said about silly WII GAMES...than what they´re saying about GT. Not fair at all. The game has bugs..i agree. but they made the game looks a CRAP. Isn´t fair with the H.A.R.D work PD had...
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And i predict tons of those.... If it was a "new" game, i am in no doubt that dude would have written a totally different review. Its biased, because he have played GT1-4.

One thing bothers me a lot though. How can you keep renewing the genre? This guy, and many many others, say stuff like
"This once revolutionary game has stood still while the competition at first caught up, then surpassed it."
How can you revolutionize a game that is about driving around on 4 wheels? Its not like you can add a new laser-bazooka-zap-warp thing. It is very limited. And no matter what you do (if you are making GT) you are not doing enough, or the right thing. People today are spoiled, no offence. People think they can get everything, thats not how it works... :(
 
squishydk
And i predict tons of those.... If it was a "new" game, i am in no doubt that dude would have written a totally different review. Its biased, because he have played GT1-4.

One thing bothers me a lot though. How can you keep renewing the genre? This guy, and many many others, say stuff like
"This once revolutionary game has stood still while the competition at first caught up, then surpassed it."
How can you revolutionize a game that is about driving around on 4 wheels? Its not like you can add a new laser-bazooka-zap-warp thing. It is very limited. And no matter what you do (if you are making GT) you are not doing enough, or the right thing. People today are spoiled, no offence. People think they can get everything, thats not how it works... :(
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I think your final paragraph is a very valid point.

It is similar to what I call "Kazuonori's Curse"
1) Attempting to simulate a well known and familiar reality (cars and car racing)

2) That appeals to a hardcore and extremely knowledgeable audience

3) With the pressure to sell and make money


Kaz will never win. As we get closer, things will be picked apart more and more. Eventually, we will see smaller and smaller jumps in the "reality" of the game. Closing in on a 100% reality simulation of cars and car racing is going to be like trying to beat a lap record. Sure it is easy to shave off 2 seconds at the beginning, but you are still 2 seconds away and that last 2 seconds will be 99% of the battle.
 
squishydk
And i predict tons of those.... If it was a "new" game, i am in no doubt that dude would have written a totally different review. Its biased, because he have played GT1-4.

One thing bothers me a lot though. How can you keep renewing the genre?
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I think that guy's review is harsh, but he does have some valid points. After playing GT1-4 I think he's sitting in the best seat in the house to judge the game. As games progress you expect them to get much better, and that's what's going to hurt GT5's review score the most: expectations.

He's completely right in saying what the hell have they been doing for 5 years. For a game to be made over such a long time and after having such a big budget but producing 800 standard cars is deplorable. 8/10 cars are standard - disgraceful.

How can you keep renewing the genre you ask?
-Add a decent damage model...to ALL cars. Even gta has better damage
-Add weather effects to ALL tracks
-The ability to change wheels and paint ALL cars
-Have a car list people want and not have 40 skylines and 100 mazdas
-Go Karts? Surely they could use their time better than including go karts.
-Cockpit view for all cars, who cares if the exterior doesn't look as good as premium cars, surely you could model the interior to at least provide this view for all cars.

This whole standard/premium thing is a joke. We're in 2010, ps3 has been out for ages, yet PD can't allow you to paint your standard car a different colour or change its wheels - pathetic!
Adding weather effects to only some tracks? Surely it'd come down to how weather effects were coded? You'd think that once you made the weather effect you could 'apply to all' sort of thing? Maybe that comes down to minor details the game has such as puddles in specific places on race tracks, i'm not sure.
 
Comparing GT5 to NFS hot pursuit is ridiculous. If you have to compare it to something, compare it to Forza. But NFS HP? Seriously? I played the demo for a whole 10 minutes. The cars drive like boats. They may as well compare GT5 to Little Big Planet then.
 
My main point is, after so long and such a big budget, they shouldn't have these problems. They may have revolutionised the physics and included some other cool features such as nascar and online, but you guys have to admit that the flaws I described before shouldn't exist. It's almost 2011, I think these flaws are pathetic - there aren't excuses.
 
las_cons
My main point is, after so long and such a big budget, they shouldn't have these problems. They may have revolutionised the physics and included some other cool features such as nascar and online, but you guys have to admit that the flaws I described before shouldn't exist. It's almost 2011, I think these flaws are pathetic - there aren't excuses.
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Wrong. It is still 2006. ;)

And if you don't get what I'm saying, then you haven't really thought this one out.
 
Lol dw, I get you.

That rant aside, I'll still enjoy GT5 a sh** load - probably because I'm not as die hard as many of the people out there and on this forum, but I can definitely see why people will be pissed off by it.
 
Forza4life
Justpushstart review - 4/5

Good score but just read the review. GT5's doomed :lol:

http://www.justpushstart.com/2010/11/24/gran-turismo-5-review
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HAHAHA what a joke. I played the NFS:HP Demo and the graphics were not that great at all, in fact I have no clue why people say it has awesome graphics. I mean heck Burnout Paradise had better graphics than NFS:HP. Unless NFS:HP has had a major graphics overhaul in the retail version, it look decent.
 

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