GT6 vs Forza Motorsport 6 Car Selection. Which is most appealing?

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Which game offers best car selection?

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Man, English is my first language and that's some of the wordiest and convoluted needless justification I've ever heard.

I pity someone who isnt a native English speaking trying to decipher that.

Absolutely painful to read and in the end probably not worth the effort.
 
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What has this thread come to?
 
In an attempt to try put this thread back on the rails, I have this to say;

I think what also makes Forza's cars so appealing (For me that is.) is that everything around the cars and the cars themselves intertwine with each other to give a solid package. Sounds, looks and all.

Another thing with Forza's car roster is that they pick cars that cause a lot of hype on the net and tug at heartstrings. They know which cars will do that so they picked wisely. They follow Pop Culture essentially.
 
TheAnimeDude
Of course, I wasn't denying that mate. On the article where he said he would keep all standards which even myself believes he will because..he's to stubborn upon his own game series,but I also take it with a grain of salt because what that man says is more of predictions and guesses than anything.


No disagreement whatsoever there bud. I completely agree with you. All GT cars need to be at the same level of quality.
Standards need to go bye bye. Which they'll probably do..I'm not sure like since PD never tells us what they're doing..EVER.
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Mate where this come from? I'm not disagreeing with you there. Just asking where'd that come from :p
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Oh, just as an example. I recognize you're in agreement here, I just tossed those out since I know the Supra is such a touchy subject for some.

NixxxoN
Why you give the worst possible example of car that is in GT but not in forza? Lots and lots of much better examples can be given:

-Abarth 1500 Biposto Bertone
-Acura NSX concept
-Alfa Romeo TZ3 Stradale
-Alpine VGT
-Amuse S2000 GT1 Turbo
-Art Morrison Corvette
-Aston Martin VGT
-Audi Sport Quattro Rally Car
-Audi Sport Quattro Pikes Peak
-Audi R10 TDI
-Autobacs Garaiya GT300
-Ayrton Senna Formula 3

This is only a bunch of cars for letter A, only premium ones.

Also since you mentioned BMW, GT6 got the 507 and the new M4.
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I mentioned the Cappuccino for precisely why I said I did: it's an interesting car. It's one of my favourites in GT, especially the Race Modified one.

If you want to go down that route - and I don't even think it's a particularly good one, since cherry-picking the list sort of defeats the purposes of comparing the full roster from both games - here's the A's missing from GT that are in Forza:

  • Abarth 595 esseesse
  • Abarth Fiat 131
  • Alfa Romeo 33 Stradale
  • Alfa Romeo GTV-6
  • Alfa Romeo SZ Sprint Zagato
  • Alfa Romeo 155 Q4
  • Alfa Romeo 4C
  • AMC Rebel "The Machine"
  • AMC Javelin AMX
  • Ariel Atom V8
  • Aston Martin DBR1
  • Aston Martin DB5 Vantage
  • Aston Martin #007 DBR9
  • Aston Martin DBS
  • Aston Martin V12 Zagato
  • Aston Martin Vanquish '12
  • Auto Union Type D
I didn't bother with Audi, as it would nearly double the size of the list. I also didn't bother listing the cars that are in Forza that only have PS2 equivalents in GT.

NixxxoN
I suppose they dont always add all the newest cars in GT because they tend to always add some new cars, and some old ones (road or race cars), not only focussing on new road cars.
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Over 78% of Premiums in GT5 were from 2000 or newer. All but two of the DLC cars were from that same range too. For GT6? 77%. PD focuses largely on the new stuff actually, more so than Forza does (55% of the roster in FM6 is from 2000 or newer).

But I fully expect to see the likes of LaFerrari, McLaren P1, Lambo Veneno and so on for GT7. And I hope they add some Koenigsegg too.
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It'll be interesting to see what PD's star cars are for the next GT's screenshots. GT6 focused on the GT-R GT3, Rocket, Dino, R8 LMS, and Audi S1 rally car, the latter three of which had been present in FM4. It's sort of inevitable that the number of cars seen in both games will only increase.

TonyJZX
GT6 does lack a lot of the cars in Forza 6 due a lot to its age... it is an old game at heart being the GT5 engine... I like BMW M3/M5s and the fact it doesnt have them disappoints me... who doesnt like the e30/e39 etc. Microsoft have had at least 2 yrs to react to GT6.
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How is GT6's age a factor, other than potentially for the 2014+ cars? It coming out when it did certainly can't be the reason for the lack of those BMW's, for example.

JDM_Tuning_S3OZ
Oh look another pointless comparison thread....
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You not seeing a point is a lot different from the thread not having one.
 
NixxxoN
I suppose they dont always add all the newest cars in GT because they tend to always add some new cars, and some old ones (road or race cars), not only focussing on new road cars.
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Seriously. If GT7 is like GT5/GT6. I'm jumping boats to Project Cars,Forza 6,and the other one that has two letters that have a "A" and a "C".

And dude. I have a surprise for you.
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Yeah PD is sure doing this!
 
GT6 is missing new cars like the 4C and M5 but, GT6 have the M4, M4 Frozen, M4 pace car, GTR NISMO, Sting Ray Gran Turismo and uh.. umm... err... I'll stop there.
 
Each person has different tastes, interests and preferences of cars, so there will always be something missing or wanted :D Like me, I like JDM cars from the old times ( 70's to 90's ), and I don't really worry about newer cars like Agera or La Ferrari of P1, if I can drive them, yeah nice, if I can't, no feeling of loss here.
 
05XR8
GT6 is missing new cars like the 4C and M5 but, GT6 have the M4, M4 Frozen, M4 pace car, GTR NISMO, Sting Ray Gran Turismo and uh.. umm... err... I'll stop there.
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Wow. Talk about adding variant after variant... Although FM6 does have the M4 already, and probably soon to get the GTR Nismo (see the Ghost mod if one has FM6).

Sure GT6 has some cars that I miss, but not to the point of me actually turning back on the game as most of them are standard cars, lacking interiors and customzation parts. Due to that, FM6 keeps my interest. I'll definitely trade in all those things in GT6 for new/classic premium cars anyday, especially the VGTs which IMO look very boring.
 
TokoTurismo
Wow. Talk about adding variant after variant... Although FM6 does have the M4 already, and probably soon to get the GTR Nismo (see the Ghost mod if one has FM6).

Sure GT6 has some cars that I miss, but not to the point of me actually turning back on the game as most of them are standard cars, lacking interiors and customzation parts. Due to that, FM6 keeps my interest. I'll definitely trade in all those things in GT6 for new/classic premium cars anyday, especially the VGTs which IMO look very boring.
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Yeah. I posted my point in the letting go GT6 thread. I only played GTA V, GT6 and G:AS on my PS3. I even put my PS3 in a box. I'll get the PS4 when I know GT7 is coming. I wasn't convinced of PCars and AC. They seemed like incomplete games and I didn't want to get involved with that after GT6.

I'm satisfied with the F6 car list. If there were no DLC to come for this game, I would not care. So much racing and different style cars as is. And because of the car list diversity, I'm taking my time with this one.
 
TonyJZX
If you want to jump in a car and immediately be good and win races, I'm not sure GT6 and Forza is the right game for you? Unless you want to drive all aids on and auto brake and driving line and all those crutches... this is supposed to be difficult... I certainly wouldnt play drive simulators if it was easy and didnt require practice... practicing and getting better is what a lot of people enjoy.
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Well then turn the aids off.

GT6 does lack a lot of the cars in Forza 6 due a lot to its age... it is an old game at heart being the GT5 engine... I like BMW M3/M5s and the fact it doesnt have them disappoints me... who doesnt like the e30/e39 etc. Microsoft have had at least 2 yrs to react to GT6.
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And react they did. So far they are bringing in nearly 100 cars a year. We already have a guaranteed 60 with the car pass, and they always release free content through out its life as well, plus the Porsche expansion coming in. I'm sure we'll see 80+ within the time of FM6 - FH3. It has nothing to do with its age. It being older doesn't automatically mean that they can't produce cars at a similar rate if they wanted to.

PD has also not been able to get into the paid DLC thing. Why havent they made us pay for season passes and dlc like Microsoft has?
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because first they'd actually have to have something that atleast resembles a DLC schedule.
 
To be fair, there are two sides to this argument and no one can win it. Whether a Forza fan or GT6 fan. Heres why. Yes GT6 has way more cars than Forza, GT6 has too many copies of different spec based off of one model. Even then GT6 will have more cars than Forza, but will it have more premium after all the copies or spec variations than Forza? I don't know.

Yes a lot of cars in GT5 and GT6 came from PS2 models so Gran Turismo 4 but Gran Turismo 4 was released on PS3 back in 2004 or 2005.. the first Forza Motorsport was released this year 2005. It has taken T10 10 years with the Forza Horizon games included up till 2015 to get us up to Forza 6's 400 - 450 cars. Or 450 cars not including DLC packs to come.

Back then PD were probably even smaller company than they are now. But does GT6 still have less premiums than Forza since 2005 to 2015? I have a feeling Kaz created the standard models to speed up game creation and create more car models quicker. When you think about it PD have had 10 years between the PS3 generation quality of premium modeling and GT5 and GT6. 10 years.

So if Kaz was to drop the whole time consuming process of building many spec variations of many models, and instead not focus on VGT so much but start modeling real cars which are in Forza and not in GT and build them all in premium, we would have a winner of a game. Because I am just guessing a figure of around 600 premiums in GT which started since PS3 GT4 - GT5, GT6. Soo is Kaz still ahead in terms of pure premiums?

It just doesn't have the car brand and choice that Forza has. Does anyone know how many premiums are in GT6 thus far?
 
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To be fair, there are two sides to this argument and no one can win it. Whether a Forza fan or GT6 fan. Heres why. Yes GT6 has way more cars than Forza, GT6 has too many copies of different spec based off of one model. Even then GT6 will have more cars than Forza, but will it have more premium after all the copies or spec variations than Forza? I don't know.

Yes a lot of cars in GT5 and GT6 came from PS2 models so Gran Turismo 4 but Gran Turismo 4 was released on PS3 back in 2004 or 2005.. the first Forza Motorsport was released this year 2005. It has taken T10 10 years with the Forza Horizon games included up till 2015 to get us up to Forza 6's 400 - 450 cars. Or 450 cars not including DLC packs to come.

Back then PD were probably even smaller company than they are now. But does GT6 still have less premiums than Forza since 2005 to 2015? I have a feeling Kaz created the standard models to speed up game creation and create more car models quicker. When you think about it PD have had 10 years between the PS3 generation quality of premium modeling and GT5 and GT6. 10 years.

So if Kaz was to drop the whole time consuming process of building many spec variations of many models, and instead not focus on VGT so much but start modeling real cars which are in Forza and not in GT and build them all in premium, we would have a winner of a game. Because I am just guessing a figure of around 600 premiums in GT which started since PS3 GT4 - GT5, GT6. Soo is Kaz still ahead in terms of pure premiums?

It just doesn't have the car brand and choice that Forza has. Does anyone know how many premiums are in GT6 thus far?
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Your math is a little off. GT has been making premium cars that are next gen ready since 2005, since the launch of GT4. Forza has been making premium cars that are next gen ready since about the launch of Forza 4, October 2011. Forza 5 launched in November 2013 with 200 cars, Forza 6 launched 22 months later with 400 unique cars, an increase of 200. For GT6, including DLC from GT5, GT added about 130 unique premiums in 3 years.

Forza is making new cars at a much faster rate than GT's historic rate of about 40-45 unique new premiums per year. Over the last 19 months they've produced at rate of around 110 unique cars/year. Forza is hands down winning the premium car count race and by Forza 7 they should be well ahead of GT unless PD pulls a rabbit out of the hat, something they've never been able to do on this front.
 
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Not sure how I've only just found this thread, but ok.

For me, Forza's car list is much more appealing than GT's.

Yes, GT has a huge car list, and has the VGT's (which I enjoy), but Forza keep up with the times. GT6 was released in late 2013, and there was a multitude of new cars that they could've added, but they decided not to. For example, Forza 5 released before GT6, and was able to launch with Ferrari's newest cars, such as the F12 and the 599 GTO (with the LaFerrari being added afterwards). And yet, last time I checked, the newest Ferrari in GT6 is still the 458.

Maybe it's the speed that PD develop their premiums, I don't know.

But PD really need to do something special to make their car list as desirable as Forza's, in my opinion.
 
Johnnypenso
Your math is a little off. GT has been making premium cars that are next gen ready since 2005, since the launch of GT4. Forza has been making premium cars that are next gen ready since about the launch of Forza 4, October 2011. Forza 5 launched in December 2013 with 200 cars, Forza 6 launched 21 months later with 450 cars, an increase of 250. 250 cars in 19 months is more premiums than GT added in the more than 5 years it took to develop GT5. For GT6, including DLC from GT5, GT added about 130 unique premiums in 3 years.

Forza is making new cars at a much faster rate than GT's historic rate of about 40-45 unique new premiums per year. Over the last 19 months they've produced at rate of nearly 150 cars/year. Forza is hands down winning the premium car count race and by Forza 7 they should be well ahead of GT unless PD pulls a rabbit out of the hat, something they've never been able to do on this front.
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If you're going to count the lack of "unique" cars against GT, you might want to do the same for Forza, since a good chunk of the additions are race cars, typically with two liveries counting as two separate models. I'd wager it'd deduct at least 50 cars from their total.
 
I honestly cant vote. Both games have a great variety of cars that the other game does not. I have never cared for duplicate cars but as @SlipZtrEm pointed out, Forza 6 now has quite a few duplicates in F6. Really a shame since Forza has an incredible vinyl editor that allows you to create any car replica you want. I think last time I counted, F6 allows around 13,000 vinyls per car. Really no reason to create duplicate cars in Forza just for designs.

The one advantage F6 has is that all the cars have modeled interiors for driving and detailed in autovista. That does make the car driving experience (cockpit view) and auto vista a lot more appealing IMO. However, since this thread is specifically about "car selection", I simply can not vote. Each game has cars the other does not. It will always be that way.
 
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I quite like Gran Turismo, but Forza seems to be pulling me away from Gran Turismo somehow. Even with the selection of cars, hell, they even have Fast and Furious cars in Forza 6.

GT6 may have 1200+ cars and Forza 6 may have 480+ cars, but with the all the cars in the entire Forza series combined (Forza so far has around 1200+ modeled cars spanning through all games, including special editions and some "hidden" cars), it seems that Forza has a better variety of cars than Gran Turismo somehow.
 
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Johnnypenso
Your math is a little off. GT has been making premium cars that are next gen ready since 2005, since the launch of GT4. Forza has been making premium cars that are next gen ready since about the launch of Forza 4, October 2011. Forza 5 launched in December 2013 with 200 cars, Forza 6 launched 21 months later with 450 cars, an increase of 250. 250 cars in 19 months is more premiums than GT added in the more than 5 years it took to develop GT5. For GT6, including DLC from GT5, GT added about 130 unique premiums in 3 years.

Forza is making new cars at a much faster rate than GT's historic rate of about 40-45 unique new premiums per year. Over the last 19 months they've produced at rate of nearly 150 cars/year. Forza is hands down winning the premium car count race and by Forza 7 they should be well ahead of GT unless PD pulls a rabbit out of the hat, something they've never been able to do on this front.
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Ahh thanks Johnny for clearing that up. I knew it was something like that. For instance PD making next gen since GT4 PS3 days - 10 years, wasn't sure and didn't know since when T10 had been making next gen ready cars. So in 4 years they have made 450 cars which within the next year will add another 42 7 car pack.

But do you know how many pure premiums PD has made since GT4 upto GT6? Or does anyone. I was guessing 600. And I knew my maths was a little off but in the right direction. So now I know T10 have been making next gen ready since 2011.

But as I said in my last post, PD really has had plenty of time, 10 years to expand the company, employ more, outsource etc etc etc.. Kaz really has a lot of catch up to do, when they should of been keeping ahead of the competition all along.

On one last note. I'm really enjoying Forza 6 once the physics is set to how I like it. You can tell those little areas that were poor or weak have been improved on over Forza 5. Looks like Forza 6 is going to have 492 ish cars at the end of the year.

I'm sure I'll be playing this game a lot more than the previous iterations. So far I have been Test driving the cars gifted to me. These are Ford GT 2017, V 12 Vantage S, M4 Coupe, M235i, La Ferrari, Shelby GT500, F-150 SVT Raptor Shelby, F Type R Coupe, Agera, GT-R Black Edition, 22B STi. All the cars have been enjoyable to drive.

The scenery in Lauterbrunnen, Switzerland is fantastic. Just driven it today. I'd been test driving all cars on Monza, so I still have all the other tracks to test drive. The 3d textures and scenery is fantastic and the details of the road so good. I'm loving the more natural tones instead of the oversaturated overdone colors. It makes a world of difference.
 
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