GT7 Daily Race Discussion

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Chris30
It does feel impossible to drive a perfect, smooth lap. Even after watching hours of some of the top drivers replays, I cannot copy what they did. Beats me. And it doesn't matter what equipment I use, it's still the same either way. This rule applies to everyone else in general.
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Smooth laps I can manage, can't say they're perfect though! That's why I get on better at tracks where there is a high likelihood of going off track - eg Suzuka, Brands Hatch.

Speed is what eludes me - I look at the times of the people on my friends list, 2 to 3 seconds faster than mine, then I see that even they are still 3 seconds slower than the top world times!

What also frustrates me is that those friends often post really fast laps on day 1, and I then spend the week getting closer by 0.1 seconds per day 😂

Still, I haven't done too bad at Watkins Glen this week - started most races P12 or below, finished a large proportion in the top 6. Best car for me has been the Vantage - eats it's tyres, and I have to change them at the pitstop, but really stable through the bus stop, and the fastest car climbing up the hill from the hairpin!

Seems to have been some very clean racing there too, I've managed to keep a 100% SR all week.
 
bone_tone
Speed is what eludes me - I look at the times of the people on my friends list, 2 to 3 seconds faster than mine, then I see that even they are still 3 seconds slower than the top world times!
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That's so true. But I will tell you from my experience with Race B this week that it's possible to learn some things, if you pay enough attention. By the way, my point in sharing these is not to tell anyone how to drive the track. These are just my experiences of learning some things that worked for me - and I learned them by paying careful attention to other people's replays (which is my point here).

For example, at Catalunya,

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going through T12, I learned (via watching other replays) that I want to come to the point where I start accelerating out of the turn at no more than 58mph. If I'm faster than that, I can't accelerate full throttle, and have to nurse it so I don't go off track. (In the R8)

I was going too fast through the turn, which made it impossible for me to get a good exit. When in a race, it feels way counterintuitive to slow down that much through that turn, but it works.

I also learned that for T13, I absolutely had to be as far left as possible before the turn. I know this should have been obvious, but I realized as I approached the actual turn, I started drifting to the right. This caused me to take the turn too shallow, and I regularly had to slow down during the straight between 13 and 14 or I'd go off track. When I realized that, I picked up time immediately.

There's more stories like that, but the point is, the differences between what I was doing compared to what I try to do now don't seem like much, but they really make a difference in lap time.
bone_tone
What also frustrates me is that those friends often post really fast laps on day 1, and I then spend the week getting closer by 0.1 seconds per day 😂
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I know, right?
 
I’ve been off the game all weekend and I’m gonna be off next week because I have to do my taxes 🤮. But I jumped on quickly before I have to look at a bunch of numbers…

Jumped on A. I knew I could do better and I put the car in the 1:02s.
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That put me back in the top 400 globally as well.

Now I have 1/2 hour to see what I can do for C.
 
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I don't think I can do much better than this:

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So you tell me - was I dirty here, or was there a legitimate hole and was he in the wrong? If you're like me, you'll have a different opinion based on which car the camera is from. Personally, I think I was perfectly fine, but I understand his frustration. However, binning me was uncalled for. At least he got a 3 second penalty so he didn't win, but he did get second place, which should have been mine (IMO). Oddly enough, I feel just fine after this race - not ticked off or anything.

 
TechnoIsLove
Also @TheNormsk - that is very close between us!
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Sorry. :cheers:

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Actually this one was a little frustrating. Many times I was ahead for a 1:52.7/8 time, only to ruin it on one corner... Below is a particular egregious one. I was over 0.5s up for a pace of 1:52.7 ish when it just started to slip away. Then I got puzzled as to why time was just leaving me. It wasn't a slow lost either; it went incredibly fast and then I stacked it into the barrier.

 
Gonna miss this week, especially Watkins Glen. Had a B/S race last night where I finished P10 but only 11 seconds off P1! Not great for DR, but nice to have such a close competitive race.

Two unrelated questions:

1) How do you tell the time of day in the daily races? I recall in GTS it said the time on the main screen, but I can’t see it anywhere in GT7, not even in the race details. Curious because at Barca this week and Laguna a few weeks ago wanted to know if it was dawn or dusk. Btw, really enjoy the visuals of the game as the sun is setting or rising!

2) How do drivers message during the race when they are presumably driving quickly? I see this a fair amount (usually someone calling out dirty driving).
 
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@cyirush you know, I always wondered that too, how can most fast drivers type or text during a race, because pausing for a long period leads to disqualification. As for the weather and time, maybe PD has equipment that tells what the exact time is. I'm not entirely sure but that is my guess.

I'm really thrilled about SSRX this week. I just need to utilize that slipstream if I'm behind a cluster of cars. I'm sure it will be the same selection of the 10 N900 or 1000 cars featuring the Mercedes Black Panther car.
 
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GrumpyOldMan
I don't think I can do much better than this:

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So you tell me - was I dirty here, or was there a legitimate hole and was he in the wrong? If you're like me, you'll have a different opinion based on which car the camera is from. Personally, I think I was perfectly fine, but I understand his frustration. However, binning me was uncalled for. At least he got a 3 second penalty so he didn't win, but he did get second place, which should have been mine (IMO). Oddly enough, I feel just fine after this race - not ticked off or anything.

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If he had braked earlier, you would have sailed off the track
The contact was your fault, you braked way too late
When mistakes are made, waiting is not a bad idea
I rarely post, no one responded to this
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cyirush
Gonna miss this week, especially Watkins Glen. Had a B/S race last night where I finished P10 but only 11 seconds off P1! Not great for DR, but nice to have such a close competitive race.

Two unrelated questions:

1) How do you tell the time of day in the daily races? I recall in GTS it said the time on the main screen, but I can’t see it anywhere in GT7, not even in the race details. Curious because at Barca this week and Laguna a few weeks ago wanted to know if it was dawn or dusk. Btw, really enjoy the visuals of the game as the sun is setting or rising!

2) How do drivers message during the race when they are presumably driving quickly? I see this a fair amount (usually someone calling out dirty driving).
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If I’m not mistaken, the track map is oriented correctly; IE if you are heading west and see the sun, it’s afternoon
 
A - SSRX drafting race, 1 lap, no DR/SR
B - Deep Forest, Gr 4, 5 laps on RH
C - Fuji, Gr 2, 12 laps on RS, 1 mandatory stop
 
Wow, no Gr.3 race, interesting. I think this is only the third set of races in 2023-24 that that's happened (and at least the week this year where it was the 86s was because they massively overhauled the BoP that week).
 
T_702_Balone
If he had braked earlier, you would have sailed off the track
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Strongly disagree. At the time of contact, I was only doing 52mph. I could take that turn at 42mph, which would have been easy to reach from there.

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GrumpyOldMan
I don't think I can do much better than this:

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So you tell me - was I dirty here, or was there a legitimate hole and was he in the wrong? If you're like me, you'll have a different opinion based on which car the camera is from. Personally, I think I was perfectly fine, but I understand his frustration. However, binning me was uncalled for. At least he got a 3 second penalty so he didn't win, but he did get second place, which should have been mine (IMO). Oddly enough, I feel just fine after this race - not ticked off or anything.

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The Ferrari should not turn-in to the apex like you are gonna disappear (i.e. You would have to brake really early to not hit him) so it's on him IMO. If, in the parallel universe he left a car space at the apex and you still managed to hit him then it's on you (For out braking yourself and not sticking to the inside line). At least the penalty system works somehow.

So I did not have a good time on Catalunya last week either, so switched to Race A after that race in my last video. I simply love the combination of MX5s and Tsukuba and the (lack of) grip level makes it interesting.

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Won a few races and was on podium for most of the races, though passing is hard with weak slipstream and lack of alternate line in corners for the fear of people punching me out at corner exit. Then the way that DR gain/loss is calculated doesn't help either. I know I did say the current DR/Matchmaking system is the best without significantly complicating things but the lack of participation in Race A really push things to the extreme - in all of the races I got mixed SR & DR grids (A+ to B at least) and I basically lose DR if I finish 2nd or lower. I do understand the "expectation" that I should be winning being the highest/er DR guy in the field but it was not my choice to race in mixed DR grid either - no wonder the A/A+ participation is low as it only takes one small mistake/someone missing a braking point to do huge damage to the DR, and that is extremely common when SR B or lower guys are on the same grid.

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@Barney Da Dog saw you in one race where I got pushed wide, dropped a wheel to the grass and binned at the final corner of the final lap, fighting for 1st..that's the time I lost the most DR ever in 1 single race!
 
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So, do any experienced drafters have any tips for a rookie on how to do well in Race A this week? As a Brit I have almost Zero knowledge of oval racing except for Days of Thunder and Talladega Nights! 😂
Is there a Meta car for this, or is it all about tactics and being in the right spot at the right time? Is it better to use 3rd person view for a better idea if what's going on around you?
I've tried 1 race this morning and got spun out in the first turn.
All tips welcome! :D
 
Anyone who's read my posts before will know I like having cars in different eras compete against each other, and that I don't want GT to become another game where you only ever race cars against opponents in their exact same class.

With that said, this week's Race C is an example of why Gr.2 as constructed doesn't work; the '90s Le Mans cars shouldn't be there (or they should be BoP'd a lot better). The speed differential in the corners causes chaos as people have to account for the vastly different braking points/cornering speeds, and then on the straights a GT-One or CLK just breezes past Super GT cars, only to then hold them up for a lap. It's too different.
 
Nakano219
Anyone who's read my posts before will know I like having cars in different eras compete against each other, and that I don't want GT to become another game where you only ever race cars against opponents in their exact same class.

With that said, this week's Race C is an example of why Gr.2 as constructed doesn't work; the '90s Le Mans cars shouldn't be there (or they should be BoP'd a lot better). The speed differential in the corners causes chaos as people have to account for the vastly different braking points/cornering speeds, and then on the straights a GT-One or CLK just breezes past Super GT cars, only to then hold them up for a lap. It's too different.
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I agree, I felt sorry for the poor peeps who got held up behind my 🤥Bentley🤥, if someone passes me the end of the lap, I get em back on the straight and hold them up the rest of the lap.
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And in what world do some (or most) of those cars compete with the Bugatti?
 
GrumpyOldMan
Strongly disagree. At the time of contact, I was only doing 52mph. I could take that turn at 42mph, which would have been easy to reach from there.

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You were out of position and slow due to the time penalty. You knew where he was on the track and must have known the line that he was going to take and the superior speed that he was going to bring into the corner compared to you. I am surprised that you attempted the pass.

You might strongly disagree with me too, but I think that the pass was not on and it was easily avoidable by you.

The revenge takedown afterwards was also not on.

Anyway a new week beckons.
 
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I just want to laugh. So, I tried Daily Race C just out of curiosity with the GT One because I want to do Race A for the week. But then this moment happened and that was where I was laughing and just asking myself what this guy was thinking.

I was defending when I was just going to box to do my mandatory pit stop and at the same time get a new set of softs because the tire wear on this GT One I find it oof.

 
Nakano219
Anyone who's read my posts before will know I like having cars in different eras compete against each other, and that I don't want GT to become another game where you only ever race cars against opponents in their exact same class.

With that said, this week's Race C is an example of why Gr.2 as constructed doesn't work; the '90s Le Mans cars shouldn't be there (or they should be BoP'd a lot better). The speed differential in the corners causes chaos as people have to account for the vastly different braking points/cornering speeds, and then on the straights a GT-One or CLK just breezes past Super GT cars, only to then hold them up for a lap. It's too different.
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I'd agree. Gr1 is the same way with cars like VGTs, Porsche 919, and GrC cars all in the same category. It doesn't work.
 
GrumpyOldMan
So you tell me - was I dirty here, or was there a legitimate hole and was he in the wrong? If you're like me, you'll have a different opinion based on which car the camera is from. Personally, I think I was perfectly fine, but I understand his frustration. However, binning me was uncalled for. At least he got a 3 second penalty so he didn't win, but he did get second place, which should have been mine (IMO). Oddly enough, I feel just fine after this race - not ticked off or anything.

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@GrumpyOldMan If you felt you were able to get it slowed and round the turn from that position, then I think you have every right to be there and challenge for the place. Yes the Ferrari had got ahead, but I wouldn't consider the move done, because they're out wide at that point, with a greater distance to close to the apex. If they'd left a cars width to the apex they probably would have completed the move easily, with their greater speed through the corner. Diving for the apex and expecting you to disappear or yield is unrealistic on their part. The subsequent rear-ending was a dick move. Just my opinion, of course, everyone see these things differently.
 
emGieT
Come on, seriously? SSXR... After great Race A last week something like this? Why? Just curious: Anybody enjoy that kind of race? 🤨
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Personally it's about choosing different kind of cars and having fun for this race.

Since this race doesn't have DR/SR change on, it pretty much gives me freedom to have fun on this Daily and choose the tuned loaner cars to you without trying hard to win. I for one I'm definitely spending my time on that Daily for this week.
 
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@Famine My car is twice the width of yours, I was trying to line up a push but it's next level Tetris 😂

It does look like the AMG will be the dominant car this week but if you get the Lambo to the final corner in the lead group it is a rocket on the nitro.
 
GOTMAXPOWER
@Famine My car is twice the width of yours, I was trying to line up a push but it's next level Tetris 😂
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All seemed fine to me until it looked like an AMG hit you as you hit me and you got physicsed out the side... :ouch:
 
Famine
All seemed fine to me until it looked like an AMG hit you as you hit me and you got physicsed out the side... :ouch:
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That's the other thing with the Aventador, it has a pointy nose instead of a flat bumper so if you get pushed at the same time as you're pushing it pings you out of line, sometimes left, sometimes right but I think that one was a little upwards. Not ideal!
 
Fezzik
A - SSRX drafting race, 1 lap, no DR/SR
B - Deep Forest, Gr 4, 5 laps on RH
C - Fuji, Gr 2, 12 laps on RS, 1 mandatory stop
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Darn, I would jump in on Daily C if I weren't trying to preserve my Dr B for the GTWS.
Akers
As a Brit I have almost Zero knowledge of oval racing except for Days of Thunder and Talladega Nights! 😂
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Isn't that all you need?

@GrumpyOldMan It's one of those about perspective. From their view you disappeared due to the penalty and they were free to take the corner. From yours you managed to keep the speed enough to be alongside into the corner. (Probably due to better braking technique). They simply weren't aware of you and you surprised them when they turned in. That's on them. Thankfully the game punished them for their petulance.
 
OJBrit
Darn, I would jump in on Daily C if I weren't trying to preserve my Dr B for the GTWS.
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