GT7 Daily Race Discussion

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Barney Da Dog
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Also done with B - just too much of a lottery. Out front, then crash and try to catch up, and go flying up the back of someone braking and down-shifting for the bus stop. Went down to SR A within 3 races šŸ˜®

At least Race A is reasonable (I enjoy Gr2 on twisty tracks though) and seen the RCF and GTRs be competitive too.

@mellofello9
I'd have to go with "Does Not" - I noticed one of my Gr2 NSX's had 'bad' oil, and engine and chassis at 'normal' and there was nothing between them as far as qualifying and racing goes.
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On the oil thing I will say this:

The rental cars are all reset so the concept of worn oil is largely moot.

With my own cars the game wears the oil across my TT sessions and I can tell when it's passed the good point just by the way the car doesn't rev as cleanly. Some of this can be attributed to some exits being better than others, but there is also a hesitancy at the top end mostly notably in the higher gears nearing the limiter.

It would be plausible that my engine power is completely BoPd as expected but power and weight don't account for how that power gets to the ground and the efficiency with which that power is delivered.

This is where I'm staunchly on the "it does something" and "placebo/imagination" are also viable considerations for me. But I know I drive a hell of a lot in this game and typically a small rotation of cars on tracks that are featured regularly.

It's all a black box so will never truly know, but I'm in the does camp especially as I can do 30/40 lap sessions for TT on occasion.
 
newmedia_dev
It would be plausible that my engine power is completely BoPd as expected but power and weight don't account for how that power gets to the ground and the efficiency with which that power is delivered.
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And I think this is the confounding part...numbers tell one story, behavior another. To your point as well, the fact that it's all black box and we'll never truly know is probably the best takeaway/life advice.

But, and let's be honest here, would you REALLY be surprised if Kaz did something snarky/unreported that impacted the cars performance MARGINALLY because you weren't taking care of it? That, to me, seems like a total Kaz move. He loves cars. If you don't (maintenance based extrapolation), fine, enjoy your 0.005% performance reduction out of spite. OH, you didn't wash it, either??? That'll be 0.010% for YOU.šŸ¤£
 
newmedia_dev
This is where I'm staunchly on the "it does something" and "placebo/imagination" are also viable considerations for me. But I know I drive a hell of a lot in this game and typically a small rotation of cars on tracks that are featured regularly.

It's all a black box so will never truly know, but I'm in the does camp especially as I can do 30/40 lap sessions for TT on occasion.
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Here's my two cents. I don't use my GR3/GR4 cars outside of Sport Mode. They gain mileage and they do use up their oil, despite being used in Sport Mode where the BoP is on. So, it is being tracked one way or the other.

I have had cases where, for whatever reason, I'm just not getting the lap that I need. I go freshen up the cars with an oil and a wash, and then I seem to be just that little bit faster. Could be the placebo effect, but there's no harm in changing that oil and getting that wash.
 
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bone_tone
That's me you're talking about - unfortunately the TS050 won't go through the bus stop without a dab on the brakes šŸ˜‚

Having said that, it is a very stable car, and I haven't had a self inflicted off with it all week - only been a problem after people have tried to get up my exhaust pipe!

Hate to go against the views on this one, but I've been loving it, even though (or maybe because) I haven't been driving the meta....
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I've been hitting Bugattis standing on the brakes though:) May gave the TS050 a try though and see what happensšŸ‘Then I'll stick to A until next week..

I think I did break one personal record on B this week - I managed 8.5 seconds of penalties in one lap - 5 seconds for hitting a car (that was already mid-crash!) 3 seconds for overtaking under yellows (couldn't see them for all the flying Bugattis) and 0.5 seconds for cutting a corner.
 
Barney Da Dog
I've been hitting Bugattis standing on the brakes though:) May gave the TS050 a try though and see what happensšŸ‘Then I'll stick to A until next week..

I think I did break one personal record on B this week - I managed 8.5 seconds of penalties in one lap - 5 seconds for hitting a car (that was already mid-crash!) 3 seconds for overtaking under yellows (couldn't see them for all the flying Bugattis) and 0.5 seconds for cutting a corner.
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8.5 is impressive, I can't top that 6.5 is my record but 8.5 is a great day at the office.....šŸ¤£
 
I thought I'd give B one more go... It can't be that bad..
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I even got a 'bank angle' and 'too low terrain' warning come up on the dash.

Right, off to Race A šŸ¤£
 
mellofello9
And I think this is the confounding part...numbers tell one story, behavior another. To your point as well, the fact that it's all black box and we'll never truly know is probably the best takeaway/life advice.

But, and let's be honest here, would you REALLY be surprised if Kaz did something snarky/unreported that impacted the cars performance MARGINALLY because you weren't taking care of it? That, to me, seems like a total Kaz move. He loves cars. If you don't (maintenance based extrapolation), fine, enjoy your 0.005% performance reduction out of spite. OH, you didn't wash it, either??? That'll be 0.010% for YOU.šŸ¤£
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Oh donā€™t tell me not washing a car affects the power too! šŸ¤£šŸ˜‚

As there is no racing to do this weekend a spring clean of my garage might be in order!
 
It is a really depressing the wife and daughter are out for a few hours, the week ended on a bit of a "meh" work wise, I grab some wine sit in the rig, fire up the playstation.

Check the TTs to see if I'm still gold, go to the dailies and just sit there staring at the screen thinking.....really PD, really. This is the best mix of races you could come up with for hard core and casual players.

Maybe this is the push we all need to go do more lobby races, what's the saying....use them or lose them...
 
GTWolverine
Thanks! Now if only I could confidently do it in the race...
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Don't we all.

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So I tried again, my inner racer wouldn't let it go.

And I only speak for me and only me. What a joyless soul sucking depressing this week is. I'm a grown man that could if I sold everything maybe get a drive in the Clio cup.

What I have come to realise is a hyper performance car driver who enjoys maximum speed and down force. I assume the BTCC still exists because of people like me.

I just cannot find fun in mastering any of these races or lap times. Novelty yes, longevity no.

Quite frankly a poor week. The car choices are all performant and top 1% type races the daily C is a practice race for the GTWS dressed as a daily. The other 2 are so out of their boxes/comfort zones the mind boggles.

I will stand true to what I said previously, this weeks races were presented to move people to the ring race.

And if PD are gonna go down this route let's have GR1 at Brands or Goodwood or dragon trail seaside.

Or 956's at le man that take weeks to complete.

I can race the races, I can do the QT times but if I really look at the screen and think not a single thing is compelling (I tried lobbies but the lag is to jarring) then what am I suppose to do with this game. I have all the trophies, taken all the pictures I've done nothing with I can take, I've beaten the AI Sophy included. I've done all the circuit experiences to gold. My last bastion of hope was racing humans, and you remove the racing part and make 170mph bus tops the thing or 8min laps or over powered cars for a sprint track

And breathe Glen, I tried peeps I tried but just no.
 
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I thought C had great potential this week, a difficult race sure but at least there was a good variety of cars getting used. I don't think I got a clean race out of it once unfortunately with getting run wide, divebombed and whatnot. Didn't bother with B as I don't really enjoy one make meta races. A might be worth a go for something different but I've yet to try it (I really liked the Gr1 Monza race a few weeks ago, very fast cars on a shorter track).

I can't help but wonder why there's not some kind of Touring Car races each week using the MX5, Civic, etc. Would certainly add in some much needed variety.
 
newmedia_dev
Don't we all.

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So I tried again, my inner racer wouldn't let it go.

And I only speak for me and only me. What a joyless soul sucking depressing this week is. I'm a grown man that could if I sold everything maybe get a drive in the Clio cup.

What I have come to realise is a hyper performance car driver who enjoys maximum speed and down force. I assume the BTCC still exists because of people like me.

I just cannot find fun in mastering any of these races or lap times. Novelty yes, longevity no.

Quite frankly a poor week. The car choices are all performant and top 1% type races the daily C is a practice race for the GTWS dressed as a daily. The other 2 are so out of their boxes/comfort zones the mind boggles.

I will stand true to what I said previously, this weeks races were presented to move people to the ring race.

And if PD are gonna go down this route let's have GR1 at Brands or Goodwood or dragon trail seaside.

Or 956's at le man that take weeks to complete.

I can race the races, I can do the QT times but if I really look at the screen and think not a single thing is compelling (I tried lobbies but the lag is to jarring) then what am I suppose to do with this game. I have all the trophies, taken all the pictures I've done nothing with I can take, I've beaten the AI Sophy included. I've done all the circuit experiences to gold. My last bastion of hope was racing humans, and you remove the racing part and make 170mph bus tops the thing or 8min laps or over powered cars for a sprint track

And breathe Glen, I tried peeps I tried but just no.
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Sometimes they're not for you. Most times they're not for me.

I'm glad for this week though because the Nurburgring is my favorite circuit in existence and I get a 3 lap blast every 30 minutes. It's amazing and I love it.

Next week I won't be doing any dailies at all as I can't stand the combinations
 
_Katt_
Sometimes they're not for you. Most times they're not for me.

I'm glad for this week though because the Nurburgring is my favorite circuit in existence and I get a 3 lap blast every 30 minutes. It's amazing and I love it.

Next week I won't be doing any dailies at all as I can't stand the combinations
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Hey that is absolutely fair point. Usually the nurbergring would be my paradise, but 20 years of driving it spending almost every waking hour round it I GT5 in a yellow bird, and then racing it in various games it has very little daily race appeal in Gr3 cars.

Its hard enough to do a clean track day or lap in a road car, let alone everyone doing 140mph and very very very few clear passing zones where the track is wide enough and the lines friendly enough.
 
Finally got into a Race C to see what it was going to be like...pleasantly surprised, lol.

Started P1, finished P4. It was a good race and only had one incident on L2 that cost me two positions. Went from P1 to P2 thanks to watching the mirrors. Nord' doesn't tolerate that.šŸ¤£

If I can get around N24 three times in a row and only beach it once, I'm havin' a good day.šŸ˜

:cheers:
 
newmedia_dev
Don't we all.

Edit:

So I tried again, my inner racer wouldn't let it go.

And I only speak for me and only me. What a joyless soul sucking depressing this week is. I'm a grown man that could if I sold everything maybe get a drive in the Clio cup.

What I have come to realise is a hyper performance car driver who enjoys maximum speed and down force. I assume the BTCC still exists because of people like me.

I just cannot find fun in mastering any of these races or lap times. Novelty yes, longevity no.

Quite frankly a poor week. The car choices are all performant and top 1% type races the daily C is a practice race for the GTWS dressed as a daily. The other 2 are so out of their boxes/comfort zones the mind boggles.

I will stand true to what I said previously, this weeks races were presented to move people to the ring race.

And if PD are gonna go down this route let's have GR1 at Brands or Goodwood or dragon trail seaside.

Or 956's at le man that take weeks to complete.

I can race the races, I can do the QT times but if I really look at the screen and think not a single thing is compelling (I tried lobbies but the lag is to jarring) then what am I suppose to do with this game. I have all the trophies, taken all the pictures I've done nothing with I can take, I've beaten the AI Sophy included. I've done all the circuit experiences to gold. My last bastion of hope was racing humans, and you remove the racing part and make 170mph bus tops the thing or 8min laps or over powered cars for a sprint track

And breathe Glen, I tried peeps I tried but just no.
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Thread 'Bored of GT7? Three New Custom Races Every Weekday' https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/bored-of-gt7-three-new-custom-races-every-weekday.428780/
 
You guys were talking about washing cars/oil change. I hope you have not had the same experience with GT Auto as I have. Donā€™t get me wrong, they always come through, and all of the work is on point. They work insanity fast for reasonable prices. Thatā€™s not the problem.

My GT Auto when you go inside, the shop area is super sketchy. Nice place but there is a guy who looks in his toolbox the entire time and he just keeps looking. I donā€™t think Iā€™ve seen him turn around ever.

Then every single time there is another perfect gorgeous 911 on the lift. For some inexplicable reason each time I visit itā€™s the same 911 model year, everything down to the T matchesā€¦.but in a different color. Of course they have no answer for me. Some sort of 911 obsessed chop shop? Thereā€™s a story thereā€¦

On the other side is same deal, just some different car. Something illegal is occurring. GT Auto is up to something, just not sure what their angle is with this.

Again, their work is point. Perfect every time. You just have to get in and out of that shop area as fast as you can. Watch out for toolbox guy. They work stuuupid fast on cars has to be said.
 
EricTheActor
You guys were talking about washing cars/oil change. I hope you have not had the same experience with GT Auto as I have. Donā€™t get me wrong, they always come through, and all of the work is on point. They work insanity fast for reasonable prices. Thatā€™s not the problem.

My GT Auto when you go inside, the shop area is super sketchy. Nice place but there is a guy who looks in his toolbox the entire time and he just keeps looking. I donā€™t think Iā€™ve seen him turn around ever.

Then every single time there is another perfect gorgeous 911 on the lift. For some inexplicable reason each time I visit itā€™s the same 911 model year, everything down to the T matchesā€¦.but in a different color. Of course they have no answer for me. Some sort of 911 obsessed chop shop? Thereā€™s a story thereā€¦

On the other side is same deal, just some different car. Something illegal is occurring. GT Auto is up to something, just not sure what their angle is with this.

Again, their work is point. Perfect every time. You just have to get in and out of that shop area as fast as you can. Watch out for toolbox guy. They work stuuupid fast on cars has to be said.
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Ahhh yes. The old I-talian auto-body shop. Not uncommon in the greater Philadelphia region. Those boys were so nice, and it seemed someone was always around to help you figure out the insurance ..
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Iā€™m not very familiar with the Nurburgring (in any configuration) so, I spent Mon-Thursday practicing and qualifying. My QT sucked and it was ranked in the top 25,000ā€¦ yes, thats not a typo. On the positive side, I had countless places that I felt I could improve on.

Today, Friday, I figured what-the-heck, Iā€™ll enter one race just to see how far down the grid I place. There was as much as a :50 second spread from top to bottom of the grid (B lobby).

The race was amazing, so much fun (that doesnā€™t necessarily mean that I placed well). It turns out that grid position had very little to do with final positioning, similar results on my 2nd race.
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TheNormsk
I always wash after changing the oil. You never know that bit of dirt may slow you down. More drag, donā€™t you know?
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You never know - it could make a difference, without affecting BOP too perhaps. We clean helicopter rotor blades every 50 hours for top efficiency. I guess using a rental car all the time would always ensure the best car for lap times, if there was a performance difference.

P.S wish there was no such thing as rental cars in a daily race. At least if it was a one make race ( a.k.a Gr2/Gr4) then there might be a few different liveries on display.
 
If you have a faster lap time during an actual race than your qualifying time, Iā€™m curious why that doesnā€™t become your new QT.
I also notice a lot of drivers start at the back of the pack with no QT listed and end up placing pretty high, is there a strategy there?
 
Jflijohn
If you have a faster lap time during an actual race than your qualifying time, Iā€™m curious why that doesnā€™t become your new QT.
I also notice a lot of drivers start at the back of the pack with no QT listed and end up placing pretty high, is there a strategy there?
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Usually very fast chaps that enjoy fighting through the pack. I'll sometimes start at the back on unfamiliar track/combos just to get a feel for how a race goes, but then I'll try and qualify to get nearer the front
 
Barney Da Dog
P.S wish there was no such thing as rental cars in a daily race. At least if it was a one make race ( a.k.a Gr2/Gr4) then there might be a few different liveries on display.
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The trouble is then, people would not be racing. While my old account had more money than I knew what to do with and every car you could get (thanks scripted grinds) currently Iā€™m am growing the VR account ā€œorganicallyā€. No grinding so far but that does mean Iā€™m now slow to get the expensive cars.

Consequently, if I didnā€™t use the rental, Iā€™d be out of luck.

Now if I like the car though, Iā€™ll find a way to buy itā€¦
 
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Jflijohn
If you have a faster lap time during an actual race than your qualifying time, Iā€™m curious why that doesnā€™t become your new QT.
I also notice a lot of drivers start at the back of the pack with no QT listed and end up placing pretty high, is there a strategy there?
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And generally if you have a faster time in the race than QT, you would go much faster in a quiet QT, so keep pushing
 
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