GT7 Daily Race Discussion

[Stringerbell]

🤣 I’ve a decent DHL livered WRX which was a belter at RBR last time, I’ll certainly do some races there this weekend and some trialling it

You’ll need to show be the back of it so I can look it for you as your tearing away from me!!!

I've gained a tiny bit trying the WRX, but my optimum is still best with the 458. I don't like the WRX to drive and feel more comfortable in the 458.

Not tried racing yet, as not particularly keen on B or C this week 😐

I haven’t tried any other care, once I get comfortable with a car it’s really hard for me to change and get the same speed. The back snapping out on T1 had not been my most enjoyable rinse and repeats tho 🤦‍♂️

I am really not a fan of the racing at RBR, I really like the time trialing though. There are just too many points for idiots to dive and knock you off for the racing to be fun.


In the last race I did, I got passed as we were turning to start the rolling start 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ first time I’ve lost a position before the race starts.



I get very precious about being dived bombed and pushed to pass to the point where I think I even get furious with legit moves.

Was this move legit and just hard racing or dirty? I genuinely don’t know but during the race I was screaming blue murder and wanted the swine tarred and feathered then hung drawn and quartered. But maybe I was overreacting 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

 

[Lightsider74]

Was this move legit and just hard racing or dirty? I genuinely don’t know but during the race I was screaming blue murder and wanted the swine tarred and feathered then hung drawn and quartered. But maybe I was overreacting 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

That's one of those cheap moves that I would've probably backed out of knowing it was likely to end in tears. Their closing speed wasn't quite enough to call it a legit move imo. Wouldn't call it dirty though. Reckless definitely.

 

[newmedia_dev]

That's one of those cheap moves that I would've probably backed out of knowing it was likely to end in tears. Their closing speed wasn't quite enough to call it a legit move imo. Wouldn't call it dirty though. Reckless definitely.

For me the move is the exit drive and better (slower entry) and consolidate the position in T5 where the risk reward is higher.

I don’t think there was a prob with the move but it’s a massive time loss there so I’d rather keep the pace than lose 1/2s for a single place

 

[Lightsider74]

I was involved in an incident in a race this morning. At the time I felt I was in the clear regards to blame but watching replays from different perspectives I'm not so sure.

What do you folks think?
From my car:


From theirs:

 

[newmedia_dev]

I was involved in an incident in a race this morning. At the time I felt I was in the clear regards to blame but watching replays from different perspectives I'm not so sure.

What do you folks think?
From my car:


From theirs:

You won’t like this mate sorry.

It was tight racing but your exit wasn’t considerate and if I’m being a bit controversial a bit bait and switch in the previous corners.

Being real about it, the exit room wasn’t enough or fair (that’s a preference thing and we alll do us)

But on this race particularly it needs and is about high control not places but control fidelity.

Normal race, it was an incident, in A when you didn’t lift for the exit, I would have as it was 50/50

 

[NevilleNobody]

YOu guys are too nice. That 2nd one Glen linked to, flat out, 100pc dirty, no question to me. He could only execute the pass by using your car to stay on track, keep in mind his responsibility is not just to stay on track but to leave you enough space on the outside so he's not even CLOSE to making a legitimate pass.

 

[Lightsider74]

You won’t like this mate sorry.

It was tight racing but your exit wasn’t considerate and if I’m being a bit controversial a bit bait and switch in the previous corners.

Being real about it, the exit room wasn’t enough or fair (that’s a preference thing and we alll do us)

But on this race particularly it needs and is about high control not places but control fidelity.

Normal race, it was an incident, in A when you didn’t lift for the exit, I would have as it was 50/50

It's fine. Chase cam gives a different perspective. In the race using bumper cam I knew they were close but couldn't see just how close. I admit my driving was bad in the build up which is how they got a run on me. However I felt a pass on the outside, when side by side, was a case of "try it at your own risk"

Note to self: Always worth watching replays where possible before labelling someone a dirty driver.

 

[newmedia_dev]

I’m gonna second post because @

YOu guys are too nice. That 2nd one Glen linked to, flat out, 100pc dirty, no question to me. He could only execute the pass by using your car to stay on track, keep in mind his responsibility is not just to stay on track but to leave you enough space on the outside so he's not even CLOSE to making a legitimate pass.

Neville watch the nuance, you can’t be to nice just better. Remember we race to share space and stay whole, some people don’t get the memo.

But you control your car not the race.

It's fine. Chase cam gives a different perspective. In the race using bumper cam I knew they were close but couldn't see just how close. I admit my driving was bad in the build up which is how they got a run on me. However I felt a pass on the outside, when side by side, was a case of "try it at your own risk"

Note to self: Always worth watching replays where possible before labelling someone a dirty driver.

It’s always tricky and I only mentioned it because you are in those lobbies mate with your pace those slight contacts are the bit that should be avoided and where 4:5th is a good result if everyone is whole

 

[benjoi84]

I was involved in an incident in a race this morning. At the time I felt I was in the clear regards to blame but watching replays from different perspectives I'm not so sure.

What do you folks think?
From my car:


From theirs:

My first instinct to your replay is the same as it would be were I on the track myself. On this combination there's an agreement which says if you're on the outside trying to pass on that corner, you're trusting your opponent to keep control. If there's a mistake, you have to be equipped to deal with it.

What happened to Dan is unfortunate, but the binning process was initiated mainly due to not dealing with the small contact. There's plenty of run-off on the left and it's not race-ending. I'm not condoning gung-ho driving, but I think intentions are fairly plain to see most of the time.

It's a bit of a shame because it's a natural overtaking spot, but it just requires that mutual understanding.

 

[Lightsider74]

Another enjoyable session. No wins yet but was put in decent lobbies with mostly the same People. Competitive but fair - DR B to A+. Improved my QT between races and my DR enjoyed it too!

 

[Famine]

I was involved in an incident in a race this morning. At the time I felt I was in the clear regards to blame but watching replays from different perspectives I'm not so sure.

What do you folks think?

From my car:

From theirs:

Careful with this: you're not watching their perspective at all unless you have their replay from their console.

Your replay records what your console thought their car was doing, which is exactly what you see them doing in your race and not (necessarily) what they were actually doing on their console. Flicking to their car on your replay is still your replay, not theirs.

That said, from your replay of your car, you'll get two points of view. The first is that [inside] was ahead at the apex and entitled to the corner and passing around the outside is risky precisely because of what happened, and the second is that cars can't vanish and [inside] didn't give [outside] enough room on the exit to continue existing.

Both are valid and they're not actually exclusive either (if I were on the outside I'd not have tried that, and if I were on the inside I'd not have run out to the kerb on exit although you may not have done it on purpose plus the CSA light is going crazy), and because GT doesn't apportion blame at all for anything - unless human stewards review what you said on a stream a week later - it's largely a race to the bottom anyway without people basically keeping standards voluntarily.

Recognising that you might be partially at fault, regardless of that, is a small step against that descent. Analysing and reanalysing it also only leads to madness

 

[chengman]

I tried doing daily race C and have good pace in qualifying. However for whatever reason the WRX I'm using seems to be destroying the tires way faster than other cars despite being in clean air. I'm at brake bias 5 rear but I can only get 3 laps out before I've worn them down. Is it just the WRX that burns through tires or is it my driving? I'm usually pretty good with tire management. The Viper seems to be a surprisingly good car though

 

[Stringerbell]

I think I’m officially an influencer now tha my I’ve got my first comments on YouTube 😂😂

Just reached out to fanatec regarding a sponsorship deal 😎


@Lightsider74 nice in the DR mate, you’ve secured yourself nicely in A there!! 💪💪

 

[Gurzu]

You’ll need to show be the back of it so I can look it for you as your tearing away from me!!!

I haven’t tried any other care, once I get comfortable with a car it’s really hard for me to change and get the same speed. The back snapping out on T1 had not been my most enjoyable rinse and repeats tho 🤦‍♂️

I am really not a fan of the racing at RBR, I really like the time trialing though. There are just too many points for idiots to dive and knock you off for the racing to be fun.


In the last race I did, I got passed as we were turning to start the rolling start 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ first time I’ve lost a position before the race starts.



I get very precious about being dived bombed and pushed to pass to the point where I think I even get furious with legit moves.

Was this move legit and just hard racing or dirty? I genuinely don’t know but during the race I was screaming blue murder and wanted the swine tarred and feathered then hung drawn and quartered. But maybe I was overreacting 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

I'm with @NevilleNobody on this. The guy was still 100% on brakes well after the apex. That's a classic "let's sideswap the guy in front".

@Lightsider74
You were more than entitled to that corner. The guy should have simply baked off. It's an unfortunate racing incident. I don't see malice there from either side btw.

 

[Lightsider74]

Careful with this: you're not watching their perspective at all unless you have their replay from their console.

Your replay records what your console thought their car was doing, which is exactly what you see them doing in your race and not (necessarily) what they were actually doing on their console. Flicking to their car on your replay is still your replay, not theirs.

That said, from your replay of your car, you'll get two points of view. The first is that [inside] was ahead at the apex and entitled to the corner and passing around the outside is risky precisely because of what happened, and the second is that cars can't vanish and [inside] didn't give [outside] enough room on the exit to continue existing.

Both are valid and they're not actually exclusive either (if I were on the outside I'd not have tried that, and if I were on the inside I'd not have run out to the kerb on exit although you may not have done it on purpose plus the CSA light is going crazy), and because GT doesn't apportion blame at all for anything - unless human stewards review what you said on a stream a week later - it's largely a race to the bottom anyway without people basically keeping standards voluntarily.

Recognising that you might be partially at fault, regardless of that, is a small step against that descent. Analysing and reanalysing it also only leads to madness

Thanks for this. I'll be more careful in future; I'll just say "from a slightly different angle" instead of "perspective"

 

[nostradavor2]

I have question guys, I wasn't doing much of sports mode at all since started GT7, recently I started racing and I only do Daily A races.. as everyone says these are probably worst for DR, but I still managed to get around 10.000 points since last week with Mercedes and Nissan. Do you guys think I should go for B races or stay at daily A to get to DR A? I drive on buttons so road cars are better for my controller (buttons player)..

If I change to gr3 or gr4 do you have tips which aids are useful or how to be faster with them?

 

[GOTMAXPOWER]

Race B is a lot of fun now [most of] the cheating has been stopped, there is still quite a lot of wall kissing but the full on banging has stopped. The races can get quite physical though.

If anyone is struggling for pace I recommend turning on the steering assists, I wouldn't normally but it seems to fix some of the issues pad has on the banked corners. The Elantra is fast, but it's good to be different 😀

 

[brockie]

I have question guys, I wasn't doing much of sports mode at all since started GT7, recently I started racing and I only do Daily A races.. as everyone says these are probably worst for DR, but I still managed to get around 10.000 points since last week with Mercedes and Nissan. Do you guys think I should go for B races or stay at daily A to get to DR A? I drive on buttons so road cars are better for my controller (buttons player)..

If I change to gr3 or gr4 do you have tips which aids are useful or how to be faster with them?

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That’s a loaded question my man 😁

Personally I only race B or A because I like shorter races and not longer ones, so that’s up to personal preference I would say, it the gr4 are a good starting point if you are just starting out, spend a lot of time qualifying and studying the fast times and watch the tidgney guide so you can learn the track and the corners and the gears to be in,

Will take some time and you’ll need to do this daily 😁 but will be worth it !

Ps. No aids I use, but have a play with it yourself and maybe start with tc1 as a start

 

[Stringerbell]

I have question guys, I wasn't doing much of sports mode at all since started GT7, recently I started racing and I only do Daily A races.. as everyone says these are probably worst for DR, but I still managed to get around 10.000 points since last week with Mercedes and Nissan. Do you guys think I should go for B races or stay at daily A to get to DR A? I drive on buttons so road cars are better for my controller (buttons player)..

If I change to gr3 or gr4 do you have tips which aids are useful or how to be faster with them?

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I think you need race where you enjoy it the most, if Race A is your favorite race and the one you enjoy the most, then race it.

There is a guy called GermanKiwi that seems to do a majority of his racing in race A and he is ranked A+. if you keep finishing top half then your DR will go up.

However - It is definitely more fun to branch out and try other cars, I started with mostly Gr4 and recently moved into Gr3 and whilst it's been a big learning curve, the different driving has added a new fun dimension.

As Brockie says Gr4 is probably the best place to start as the cars are more controllable and then move into Gr3. In terms of aids, try not to use too many (other than ABS) as it will lessen your sense of car control but if you keep spinning then try TC and then keep lowering it as you get better throttle control.

If your sole goal is to get as much Dr as quickly as possible then Race B will be better than Race C as you get twice as many races in during the same time period.

 

[OJBrit]

I tried a couple of races on Monday after work. Well the network wasn't playing ball. Disconnected twice. So that's DR and SR down the pan. Will hopefully try and recover some before the GTWS starts on Saturday.

 

[benjoi84]

I have question guys, I wasn't doing much of sports mode at all since started GT7, recently I started racing and I only do Daily A races.. as everyone says these are probably worst for DR, but I still managed to get around 10.000 points since last week with Mercedes and Nissan. Do you guys think I should go for B races or stay at daily A to get to DR A? I drive on buttons so road cars are better for my controller (buttons player)..

If I change to gr3 or gr4 do you have tips which aids are useful or how to be faster with them?

What do you mean by "worse for DR"?

Driver Rating is just one of several ways that GT7 matches players of similar ability. You should just race what you enjoy, and hopefully with enough races under your belt, you'll be grouped together with those who are roughly the same speed as you are. There's no point gaming the system (for example, my DR is flying high because of a disproportionate amount of Daily Race A's, I can't get on with Group 3 & 4 since they nerfed the BoP). All the system is there for is to enable you to get the best racing experience, along with SR.

Just go out there and race. Everything else will come naturally.

 

[Lightsider74]

I have question guys, I wasn't doing much of sports mode at all since started GT7, recently I started racing and I only do Daily A races.. as everyone says these are probably worst for DR, but I still managed to get around 10.000 points since last week with Mercedes and Nissan. Do you guys think I should go for B races or stay at daily A to get to DR A? I drive on buttons so road cars are better for my controller (buttons player)..

If I change to gr3 or gr4 do you have tips which aids are useful or how to be faster with them?

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Our stats are pretty similar. Maybe spend a bit more time in qualifying? Although my stats say I don't convert as many poles to wins as I probably should.

If DR tracking/preservation is your thing obviously choose races tactically.

I found out I needed CSA assist on strong within 2 days of starting to play GT7 at the tail end of last year. The only time I lower it is if I'm chasing 10ths and wondering what I can do to get a bit faster - just clutching at straws really.

 

[NevilleNobody]

3 races at RBR last night, i was pushed off in two of them and lost it in the other at T1, so just donating DR at this point. I have had some really excellent fair fights with some guys but once the pack catches you or there's a group of cars, it's dog eat dog and you are mercilessly shoved off the road.

Pace wise my optimal is a 28.9 but cannot tie the lap together, which is annoying. In race I am as fast or faster than my fellow B drivers and even some A drivers other than turn 2 (or 3, whatever) where I bleed a solid 2 to 3 tenths a lap. I do not understand how folks rotate so quickly and get on the throttle so fast. This is a constant theme for me, i lose a lot of time in really slow corners, it is frustrating. Good news is i am eating guys at T1, I am short shifting up a gear mid corner and laying on the gas early.

 

[bone_tone]

but have a play with yourself

Not sure how this helps? 🤭

 

[brockie]

Not sure how this helps? 🤭

Edited!!!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

That made me properly laugh out loud!

 

[bone_tone]

Edited!!!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

That made me properly laugh out loud!

I assumed it was only for those with a joystick anyway......

 

[K2RUM]

I know everyone's going to tell me I should just be enjoying my racing — but the Red Bull Ring this week — what a ***** show.

50% of negative events are not even nearly racing incidents. Probably a lot more than half. The penalty system is just beyond stupid. I'm not posting this to cry about DR — I've dropped from a decent B to a miserable C this week and I'm well aware some of that is just Red Bull Ring being Red Bull Ring. T1 and the Hairpin are always going to separate the drivers from the passengers. But there's a difference between bad racecraft and deliberate exploitation of system blind spots, and I think the latter is in danger of destroying this game for a lot of people.

Curious whether anyone else is seeing the same pattern, or whether I've just drawn the short straw on lobbies this week.

 

[NevilleNobody]

I don't think it is a RBR problem as we have at least one track a week where what you describe is an issue. Fuji is bomb central too, as is NGP turn 1, then there's T2 at Bathurst or the chicane at Gardens, basically anywhere there's a big stop people brake where they normally so instead of 25m early to account for the traffic in front of them.

There's just not enough of a deterrent, a guy bombed in from WAY back into T2 RBR last night, took out 5 cars, he got 4 seconds. It should be at least 10 at the speed he was entering the corner.

 

[K2RUM]

I thought race C with the longer format would keep the ramming speed specialists out of it — but it just seems as bad as anywhere.

 

[newmedia_dev]

There’s definitely a bit of frustration in it—people do get caught out and the penalty system isn’t always consistent. But a lot of it is still ambition outweighing ability. People haven’t fully internalised braking distances or control nuance yet, especially in traffic, and when you layer in a bit of ego or sensitivity it turns into moves that feel possible in the moment but don’t actually stick.