GT7 Daily Race Discussion

[Goanaut]

The RCZ has a good top end speed - had a drag with a 911 out of turn 1, side by side until about half way down the straight, then the RCZ pulls ahead....

This is also my experience. Side by side I outdrag a '22 911 on the straights.

I also think using a car you are comfortable with is better than using the meta, at least in my (DR B) lobbies. I am not so confident to really push on the technical mountain section of Bathurst. If you are a really good driver, I know that the laptimes can be found by exiting the corners leading on to the straights perfectly. But compared to my peers I lose time on the mountain section because I am too careful. So having a really nimble car there that I dare to push a little bit helps a lot.

Why is it that an MR car feels more nimble there? Do they normally have a better weight distribution (engine planted down the middle) than FR cars or is it something else? In any case: I love the RCZ on the mountain. You need to steer clear from some of those kerbs at the rest of the track though, but I suspect some other cars also have that problem.

I clocked an 02:03:8 after a tiring day yesterday. Maybe a lower 02:03 is possible for me.

 

[KAlex122]

Hold on - how quickly are you typing to write during the straight?

Five very short words. Even i could do it. Ok, to get my phone, go to GTP and type it, it took me from lap 5 to 7.

The reply was not as straightforward as i hoped and the screenshot a bit blurry but it was there on time in lap 9.

 

[bone_tone]

This is also my experience. Side by side I outdrag a '22 911 on the straights.

I also think using a car you are comfortable with is better than using the meta, at least in my (DR B) lobbies. I am not so confident to really push on the technical mountain section of Bathurst. If you are a really good driver, I know that the laptimes can be found by exiting the corners leading on to the straights perfectly. But compared to my peers I lose time on the mountain section because I am too careful. So having a really nimble car there that I dare to push a little bit helps a lot.

Why is it that an MR car feels more nimble there? Do they normally have a better weight distribution (engine planted down the middle) than FR cars or is it something else? In any case: I love the RCZ on the mountain. You need to steer clear from some of those kerbs at the rest of the track though, but I suspect some other cars also have that problem.

I clocked an 02:03:8 after a tiring day yesterday. Maybe a lower 02:03 is possible for me.

Having more weight over the back axle helps - keeps the rear end planted better.

I've always been a fan of the RCZ, it sticks to the track like glue, even when the tyres are well worn - I suspect that you could run the full 10 laps without a tyre change, but I'm not brave enough to try it 🫣

 

[MOPARbarrett5]

With the same tune as in my previous video except rear toe -.15 I am in the top 10 Worldwide on a track where my average time is about a second off my best and my second best time is over 3 tenths off. I've sucked at Eiger since whatever GT5 demo it was first in like 20 years ago and I'm sure if I tried to race I'd crash by the end of the first turn (maybe not my own doing but still) but luckily I created a tune that made me look fast for one lap.

For anyone that doubts tuning being in Sport Mode, just give it some time and testing and chances are you will be fastest than if the car was stock or BOP no matter how good you are at the track.
Now to put in thousands of miles to actually learn the track and maybe even gain one millisecond to get the next position.

 

[goz3]

I don't know how they've done it, but they've outdone themselves in Race A, three weeks in a row.

For the first time in my GT career, i've actually dove into some self-tuning. I've had a look at some of the community tips and leaderboard setups and come up with my own Frankenstein's Monster of a setup. Continuously updating as I go, I might even be learning something!

I’m new to GT. Where can I check the tunes from the community you were talking about?

 

[Nebuc72]

I’m new to GT. Where can I check the tunes from the community you were talking about?

The world record tune has been posted in the Car Tuning subforum, and you can see everyones setups now through the Data Logger.

On a side note.. not a feeling I've had for a long long time.

 

[benjoi84]

The world record tune has been posted in the Car Tuning subforum, and you can see everyones setups now through the Data Logger.

On a side note.. not a feeling I've had for a long long time.

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Now i definitely don't feel any shame in watching you run out into the distance during our encounters...

 

[NevilleNobody]

I also think using a car you are comfortable with is better than using the meta, at least in my (DR B) lobbies. I am not so confident to really push on the technical mountain section of Bathurst. If you are a really good driver, I know that the laptimes can be found by exiting the corners leading on to the straights perfectly. But compared to my peers I lose time on the mountain section because I am too careful. So having a really nimble car there that I dare to push a little bit helps a lot.

Why is it that an MR car feels more nimble there? Do they normally have a better weight distribution (engine planted down the middle) than FR cars or is it something else? In any case: I love the RCZ on the mountain. You need to steer clear from some of those kerbs at the rest of the track though, but I suspect some other cars also have that problem.

I clocked an 02:03:8 after a tiring day yesterday. Maybe a lower 02:03 is possible for me.

Yep agree, comfortable is key as you will push. Yeah the 911 is faster but I am too tentative at Skyline and the dipper. MR cars are more nimble by design as you do not have a big heavy engine over the front wheels, allowing the tyres to do their job or aiding steering. Also, weight further back means more of a pendulum effect which aides rotation. Now the 911 road cars are rear engine which takes things to a bit of an extreme, Porsche's argument is you can lay on the power as the engine squishes the rear tyres to the road, this is correct but on older models the cars are edgy if you lift through a fast corner as you transfer weight to the rear and around she goes.

911 race cars are more mid engine than rear, but the weight still sits further back than other MR GT3 cars. But yes, having done 10 laps racing a guy in a 992, I got more understeer in the Jag than he did but I just find it more reliable and TBH, a big supercharged V8 feels right around Bathurst.

I shall try the RCZ though, I love a sleeper.

 

[art3mis]

So I've spend about 15-20 minutes each with the Jag and Beetle at Bathurst for this week just doing Q runs and getting familiar and comfortable with the car.

I hate both of them. The Jag doesn't turn and when it does it oversteers immediately. The Beetle oversteers on throttle like a 70s 911 does on throttle lift.

 

[NevilleNobody]

Yeah Beetle is really twitchy on the gas, mortals need TC1. The Jag, it's not got MR turn in and yeah you feel the understeer at Forrest's elbow and turn 1 but I think ;ll get into the 2.02's with it which is fairly decent. Don't be scared to use 1st gear.

 

[Childe Roland]

I can´t stand the Beetle, everything is wrong with that car for me.
And it is almost insulting to see that thing fighting side by side with 911s, Ferraris, Jags etc

My car for this week at Bathurst is the R8.
It surely isnt the best choice but it has a good balance between handling and power.
The most challenging part of the track for this car is the Dipper but once you learn how to play with the weight transfers it can plant battle to any META car.

My Qualy so far is 02:01.778 wich puts me on the 18th world place for this car.
This doesnt say much because its not a very popular car but I encourage you guys to give it a try.

Spoiler: R8 Leaderboard

 

[Uday9479]

A very interesting take & a new concept by the talented @Tidgney on this week's daily races. He puts across suggestions/opinion as to how the daily races could've been better in general. His take for Mt. Panorama's Race C suggestion is brilliant about time progression from night today or something similar across the 10 laps of race. Here is the vid:

 

[newmedia_dev]

I can´t stand the Beetle

We drive VR everything is wrong with it in VR 🤣

 

[Childe Roland]

A very interesting take & a new concept by the talented @Tidgney on this week's daily races. He puts across suggestions/opinion as to how the daily races could've been better in general. His take for Mt. Panorama's Race C suggestion is brilliant about time progression from night today or something similar across the 10 laps of race. Here is the vid:

The night/day transition its an unexplainable underused feature by PD.
It adds a lot to the inmersion of daily races.

We had it for Le Mans with Dynamic weather (Gr.1 cars I think) some months ago and it was a blast of a race.

Im really, really hoping to see some day a 5 lap race at Nordschleife with Gr.3 emulating a 24 hour race with time progression and Dynamic Weather.
I know that it may sound like hell to many, but It would be a dream come true to me

 

[brockie]

Actually managed to finish a race b this week! Started second last and finished 9th. Managed a messily couple of hundredths improvement so my idea of finishing at the back and returning to DR B is even failing 🤣

 

[NevilleNobody]

We've had night races at Bathurst before, it was great and TBH, a little bit tricky in the dark. Ain't much light up there!

 

[Bondwhar]

Actually managed to finish a race b this week! Started second last and finished 9th. Managed a messily couple of hundredths improvement so my idea of finishing at the back and returning to DR B is even failing 🤣

Well that didn’t take long and I went against the pack in the Hyundai 😳 Mid DR B and SR s races 🥳

 

[newmedia_dev]

The night/day transition its an unexplainable underused feature by PD.
It adds a lot to the inmersion of daily races.

We had it for Le Mans with Dynamic weather (Gr.1 cars I think) some months ago and it was a blast of a race.

Im really, really hoping to see some day a 5 lap race at Nordschleife with Gr.3 emulating a 24 hour race with time progression and Dynamic Weather.
I know that it may sound like hell to many, but It would be a dream come true to me

Hell to me but I understand it and support it.

I will never understand why it’s so coveted though, that’s me but it doesn’t hold the same appeal for me as it does for a lot people.

Maybe too much YouTube of watching people bin it has scared me

 

[Childe Roland]

We drive VR everything is wrong with it in VR 🤣

Those fantasy gauges that measure nothing and lets not talk about that entire dashboard that doesnt give anything but led colors indicating revs. That interior seems the design of a 8 year old kid who just want a gaming laptop for christmas.

 

[newmedia_dev]

Those fantasy gauges that measure nothing and lets not talk about that entire dashboard that doesnt give anything but led colors indicating revs. That interior seems the design of a 8 year old kid who just want a gaming laptop for christmas.

Put a flower in it… in the stalk vase….

On a practical note it’s Rev counter is awful and it’s super busy manually with so many gears it’s just an oddity on VR

Then there is the whole interior is lit up like a foyer of an opera house it’s quick but not my thing.

Honestly when you see the interior in VR it doesn’t feel like a race car it feels like the car my wife had 12 years ago, just for me not a racing interior

 

[art3mis]

Yeah Beetle is really twitchy on the gas, mortals need TC1. The Jag, it's not got MR turn in and yeah you feel the understeer at Forrest's elbow and turn 1 but I think ;ll get into the 2.02's with it which is fairly decent. Don't be scared to use 1st gear.

I use whatever gear the Automatic transmission gives me I have tried pedals and a wheel and it's not for me and I'm too set in my ways to learn shifting on a controller lol!
Thanks for the tip though, I'm sure I can come to grips with the car given the time

 

[NevilleNobody]

I use whatever gear the Automatic transmission gives me I have tried pedals and a wheel and it's not for me and I'm too set in my ways to learn shifting on a controller lol!
Thanks for the tip though, I'm sure I can come to grips with the car given the time

No judgement here man, I couldn't shift on controller either, hard as heck IMHO. I was so stuck in my ways I used the D-pad like it was 1997! It took me years to transition to a wheel and I hate to say it, decent gear made a difference, the budget rig I had was something I just could not get used to.

It does complicate matters though as AT will frustrate on certain corners, I think T2 is Ok but Forrest's elbow it'll hold a gear on you which is super annoying, maybe T1 too.

 

[art3mis]

No judgement here man, I couldn't shift on controller either, hard as heck IMHO. I was so stuck in my ways I used the D-pad like it was 1997! It took me years to transition to a wheel and I hate to say it, decent gear made a difference, the budget rig I had was something I just could not get used to.

It does complicate matters though as AT will frustrate on certain corners, I think T2 is Ok but Forrest's elbow it'll hold a gear on you which is super annoying, maybe T1 too.

Most definitely! I also started out on controller back in the day. I picked up a wheel and pedals Christmas 24 and ran them about a year and just never got comfortable with how they all worked together. Not super high end stuff but not walmart brand either lol
Ultimately I figured out I'm far happier curling into the corner of my couch while driving than I am in a chair with a wheel and whatnot.

AT definitely complicates things. I often brake harder than required to drop a gear or find myself trying to hover right below an upshift point to keep revs high. I know I could be faster with a more manual setup for sure.

Maybe I'll give higher end gear a shot. I really wish you could rent things like that around me. I know there are areas with sim setups in bigger cities, maybe I should trek to one of those and spend some time really feeling things out.
Again thanks!

 

[ZEE]

So I tried Daily Race C today after wathcing some other GT racer videos like Tidgney and Calsters and I was impressed how much fun this was after the lap 1 destruciton that ensued, causign my JAg to become pancaked. But if you get a decent lobby these races can be quite good and it made me almost just almost like Bathhurst that little smidge more.

 

[NevilleNobody]

Most definitely! I also started out on controller back in the day. I picked up a wheel and pedals Christmas 24 and ran them about a year and just never got comfortable with how they all worked together. Not super high end stuff but not walmart brand either lol
Ultimately I figured out I'm far happier curling into the corner of my couch while driving than I am in a chair with a wheel and whatnot.

AT definitely complicates things. I often brake harder than required to drop a gear or find myself trying to hover right below an upshift point to keep revs high. I know I could be faster with a more manual setup for sure.

Maybe I'll give higher end gear a shot. I really wish you could rent things like that around me. I know there are areas with sim setups in bigger cities, maybe I should trek to one of those and spend some time really feeling things out.
Again thanks!

I had a T150 on a stand and I just could NOT gel with it, like at all man, felt so loose and sloppy, like I was driving in remote control. I was immensely frustrated, took several months to learn and never got ANYWHERE, i mean ANYWHERE, I was hopeless. I too decided i love to curl up in the corner of my L shape couch. Then they changed the physics and using D-pad was basically impossible, i went from just under A+ DR to C. I took a hiatus and played fortnite for a year, then I went to a revhead event and there was a fanatec set up there, gave it whirl and dear baby jesus.

Took the plunge in Xmas 2024 and got myself a Titan rig and a DD Pro. Now I have space in the basement for this, which I understand some do not and it takes space, however i have it on castors and tuck it away after each session. It took me about a month to get really comfortable and since then I have enjoyed it very much.

On the technique compromises, let me guess, you square up the corner, so go late and high, to induce a gear change? Want to know the absolute WORST corner in the game for the AT refusing to change down? NGP, the awkward right in sector 2, immediately after the awkward left. AT just REFUSES to change down and without it, you lose GOBS of time as you just cannot rotate.

 

[art3mis]

I had a T150 on a stand and I just could NOT gel with it, like at all man, felt so loose and sloppy, like I was driving in remote control. I was immensely frustrated, took several months to learn and never got ANYWHERE, i mean ANYWHERE, I was hopeless. I too decided i love to curl up in the corner of my L shape couch. Then they changed the physics and using D-pad was basically impossible, i went from just under A+ DR to C. I took a hiatus and played fortnite for a year, then I went to a revhead event and there was a fanatec set up there, gave it whirl and dear baby jesus.

Took the plunge in Xmas 2024 and got myself a Titan rig and a DD Pro. Now I have space in the basement for this, which I understand some do not and it takes space, however i have it on castors and tuck it away after each session. It took me about a month to get really comfortable and since then I have enjoyed it very much.

On the technique compromises, let me guess, you square up the corner, so go late and high, to induce a gear change? Want to know the absolute WORST corner in the game for the AT refusing to change down? NGP, the awkward right in sector 2, immediately after the awkward left. AT just REFUSES to change down and without it, you lose GOBS of time as you just cannot rotate.

I had the Next Level Racing Lite rig for my wheel and pedal base. The actual kit was the GT29 Wheel and Pedal set.
I think ultimately my biggest issue was that the rig itself felt flimsy and like I couldn't wrench on the wheel or I'd move the frame. Likewise with the pedals.

Not the greatest piece of kit ever and I should give it another shot. Just gotta find the dough I guess lol

As far as your cornering supposition you're basically dead right!

 

[NevilleNobody]

G29 is a good wheel, but yeah you need stability.

 

[Uday9479]

The night/day transition its an unexplainable underused feature by PD.
It adds a lot to the inmersion of daily races.

We had it for Le Mans with Dynamic weather (Gr.1 cars I think) some months ago and it was a blast of a race.

Im really, really hoping to see some day a 5 lap race at Nordschleife with Gr.3 emulating a 24 hour race with time progression and Dynamic Weather.
I know that it may sound like hell to many, but It would be a dream come true to me

Yeah the Le Mans was the last race ( a few months back) where we had dynamic weather with night - day transition. It was a real blast.

Not only this, why don't PD allocate a dirt race for Race A? Imagine the fun in that.....even something like the K-Cup race we get in weekly challenges where we can use a variety of similarly powered cars.

@ZEE The Jag & most FR cars will be stable in S1, S3 & S4. I was always biased with my fav Gr. 3 car - AMG '20 but after getting a hold of the Viper, there's no turning back. It's more stable & fast than the AMG '20.

 

[NevilleNobody]

Picked up a flag to flag win tonight, otherwise some tight racing where i was a bit unlucky and got hung out to dry on lap 1 amd took me all race to recover. More and more 992s, their exit speeds are insane, I cannot come near them at hell corner or through thr 3 fast left handers.

My livery is a homage to Dick Johnsons Bathurst 1000 livery from thr early 80s. Even though I hated him because Ford.

 

[TheNormsk]

I’m loving daily race A this week. Only looked at it this evening. Got my basic tune and then looked at some of the top guys to see their suspension set up. I actually found the one used by @Nebuc72 worked for me. Killer time by the way.

Did my own tune for gearing. My fastest time was actually a different tune which I somehow lost but my current one is more drivable so I’m happy.

Did 2 races. The first I finished 4th by picking up a track limit penalty on the last lap so I lost my 3rd spot. The second race I finished 3rd, 2 higher than I started.

On the second hairpin I’m torn between drifting it and power sliding it in 1st. Sometimes I mix it up. Drifting can work well when the car in front goes wide. Now this is what I call an overtake

GT7 | Daily Race A | Eiger - Now that is how you overtake!


I love that you can actually save your tunes with this one. That should be available on ever tuner race.

I found the hydraulic handbrake improved drifting performance.

And setting the degrees of rotation to 720° on my wheel, tightened up the steering making the switchbacks a lot more manageable.