GTA VI: General Discussion

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Where will GTA VI be set?

  • California

    Votes: 9 3.9%

  • New York

    Votes: 11 4.8%

  • United States

    Votes: 51 22.2%

  • China

    Votes: 8 3.5%

  • Japan

    Votes: 12 5.2%

  • Australia

    Votes: 7 3.0%

  • Other

    Votes: 23 10.0%

  • Miami

    Votes: 109 47.4%
  • Total voters
    230
McLaren
According to this article, the shops themselves are open to everyone, but may the UE content will be located at them.
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Yeah "only open for business with the Ultimate Edition" is not so much unclear wording as flat wrong if the shops are not paywalled.

I'm as baffled by the Car Collection thing as you mentioned above too. The website only includes it under UE, and doesn't directly mention the four UE-exclusive cars:

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With a $1.5bn budget you'd think they could afford some subject-familiar copywriters.
 
Famine
Yeah "only open for business with the Ultimate Edition" is not so much unclear wording as flat wrong if the shops are not paywalled.

I'm as baffled by the Car Collection thing as you mentioned above too. The website only includes it under UE, and doesn't directly mention the four UE-exclusive cars:

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With a $1.5bn budget you'd think they could afford some subject-familiar copywriters.
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I mean, I'm inclined to believe it was written that way it was on purpose b/c I think a certain conclusion I've been seeing online is right; $100 was the intended price of the game, but Rockstar might have known pricing the game flat out at $100 would be hit with backlash.
Knocking it down to $80 & incentivizing people that you get $20 of extra content including "exclusive" locations (to be confirmed I guess) makes it easier to get most of the fanbase to accept that $100 after all.


I will say, I completely get people's agitation to it. This sort of practice is definitely up Rockstar's alley, esp. if you're aware of how their online mechanic is designed to really squeeze your wallet & I agree the consumer base should push back.

But, I will also admit I'm a hypocrite with this company. I was fully on board to buy a Collector's Edition for the game & the $20 "extra content" is way more than the extra in-game content I got spending $150 on V's Collector's Edition.

Think Little Man GIF by MOODMAN
 
McLaren
I'm 99.9% positive you won't need any of the items in the Ultimate Edition to complete the game. The only thing of real use to beat the game could be the revolvers, but there's plenty of guns to be seen. Everything else is really just extra cosmetic items; there will most surely be other clothing, salon, & tattoo places to use as well as other mod shops. The only thing that seems really locked behind are the Donk & Off-road shops, as well as few cars & a boat.

The Classic Car Collection is an interesting one, b/c there's a designation that there are 4 vehicles you can restore that are only available with the UE. But, if the entire shop is UE-only, I would assume every vehicle you restore there is only through UE. My brain might not be reading it right.
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It’s making me think the more items you have the more social media influencers promote your brand or likes and views up your cash. Maybe better alliances and I guess help and perks: getting into clubs and inner circles.
Maybe that helps with more jobs becoming available quicker through the story line. I don’t know, but that’s what I’m thinking of when starting this game with more of a head start with items. Though I understand some UE items will be made available later in the story.
 
05XR8
It’s making me think the more items you have the more social media influencers promote your brand or likes and views up your cash. Maybe better alliances and I guess help and perks: getting into clubs and inner circles.
Maybe that helps with more jobs becoming available quicker through the story line. I don’t know, but that’s what I’m thinking of when starting this game with more of a head start with items. Though I understand some UE items will be made available later in the story.
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I'll be honest, I have no idea what you're referring to with influencers & jobs becoming available. Is this speculation from the community?
 
McLaren
I'll be honest, I have no idea what you're referring to with influencers & jobs becoming available. Is this speculation from the community?
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In the trailers there are the two girls making social media videos. What is that for? Are they playable characters or do they work into telling the story of Lucia and Jason? The other characters being showcased seem like we will interact with them more than a few times.
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The Real Dimez characters and their crew, managers, etc. Will they just be like past side characters or will they have influence in how the main characters grow?

Going back to GTA V, Lester was that character that got the crew their jobs. Connected them to various crew members. I’m thinking will this be just more of the connections or do they help with street cred?
 
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05XR8
In the trailers there are the two girls making social media videos. What is that for? Are they playable characters or do they work into telling the story of Lucia and Jason? The other characters being showcased seem like we will interact with them more than a few times.
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Without going back & watching them, I assume you're referring to Real Dimez. They're two rappers who make viral videos to promote their group, tmu. They're likely going to be friends of Lucia & Jason, whom we'll probably meet through Dre'quan & Boobie's club.
 
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I can change the wording later as we find out more. While I'm sure there won't be a paper map in there, maybe there won't even be a qr code leading to a map.
 
Pre-ordered this morning. Went for standard. I don’t care for fancy fake cars or boats. The guns maybe but alas if I feel like I’m missing out I can just upgrade
 
Fezzik
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Seems to be correct. I had to take a look on the PS Store when the pre-orders went live and at today's exchange rate I'd be paying approx. 118 buckaroos for the Ultimate Edition. It seems to be pretty much in-line with what other publishers are asking for their respective Deluxe/Ultimate/Premium Editions in SEK.

With that said, I find the Ultimate Edition really lame. Not only for what it contains but also said content being paywalled.
GTA V really soured me on the series, so the UE doesn't really entice me in any way.

Still no gameplay, last trailer was over a year ago, bullshots galore and digital only 🥱
 
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Eunos_Cosmo
I'm just not seeing the grift here.
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Famine
They already have all the money and the game's already paid for. There's no need.
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It's well documented just how much they've hoovered off of GTA-O MTX and I imagine this will be even more anticipated then GTA5 was (if it isn't already). Considering that plus ongoing Cost of Living and the more specific hardware price bumps, there was no reason to essentially wall that content behind another paywall beyond skimming more fat off the top.

Instead of getting a huge PR boost, Rockstar is happily disregarding one of the few things you can't buy: Goodwill. And that's because they know it's going to sell like hotcakes regardless...

Personally speaking I would have been quite happy to pay an extra 10% or so for everything included, charging an extra £20 for an ultimate edition is (or I should say, was) in the realms of "future expansion included". That said I'm probably not going to be buying this day 1, GTA 5 never getting that single player expansion still rankles with me.
 
I'll preorder in November for the preload but I don't see much reason to do it before then. Will grab some more discounted PS Store credit when there's a decent sale in the meantime.

This autumn is shaping up to be an expensive period. This, Wolverine & Galactic Racer are on the very likely list. Hot Wheels and some others on the possibles. Maybe FH6 if the PS5 release is this year, though I'm leaning more toward waiting for Clutch.
 
The rumour doing the rounds is that a disc physical version will release after the game.

Makes sense, they know some people will double dip and stop any chance of leaks ahead of release.

Hope it's true, will gladly wait a few months to have a disc.
 
Fezzik
I'll preorder in November for the preload but I don't see much reason to do it before then. Will grab some more discounted PS Store credit when there's a decent sale in the meantime.

This autumn is shaping up to be an expensive period. This, Wolverine & Galactic Racer are on the very likely list. Hot Wheels and some others on the possibles. Maybe FH6 if the PS5 release is this year, though I'm leaning more toward waiting for Clutch.
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If you’re in the UK shopto.net is where I get mine. I paid £59 for a £70 gift card this morning for it
 
TypeRDC5
The rumour doing the rounds is that a disc physical version will release after the game.

Makes sense, they know some people will double dip and stop any chance of leaks ahead of release.

Hope it's true, will gladly wait a few months to have a disc.
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I think they will release a physical copy eventually.
 
I'm 100% getting it, but I'll wait until it's closer to release to pay the ransom

And as for editions, there is a $20 upgrade option, isn't there? Once the game is out and we know all the goodies the Ultimate Edition offers, I might pay for it if the extra content is enticing enough
 
Famine
Okay. I don't know why you think that a company which could give everyone the same experience choosing not to do so and holding cosmetics and features off from players is okay just because the game cost a lot of money (which it already covered off three times over with literal money-for-nothing last time out, and you assert will be covered by an order of magnitude this time out), took a lot of effort (from people who won't see quite so much of the rewards*) and might be good...

... and perhaps let's wait for the reviews before declaring it "seminal"... GTASA was stale dog turds, and nothing conjures up memories of GTA4 quite like irritating phone calls about going bowling.

Sure they do. Some, of course, don't, but people even in our own FH6 forums have objected to the whole thing.

Separately, and of note, there's no Early Access period for GTAVI, as is now pretty common as a pre-order/higher-tier edition bonus across the industry.

Sure thing. It's taken 13 years after all. Why does this make the practice of chopping out a bunch of cosmetics from the game to sell back to people for $20 just fine?

I get that you're willing to accept it, but that's an entirely different consideration. Well, for the most part: people being willing to accept it is why it still happens.


Again, it's also chronic lack of self-awareness from a company and a game series that makes fun of the excesses of capitalism.

*If they still have jobs, and are alive after the crunch (which Rockstar now claims is better than it was for Bully/RDR2)
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Well in the very least, absolutely nobody should pre-order a game that is digital only and doesn't seem to have any tangible reason to pre-order. I don't think the backlash would be nearly as severe if Rockstar had just come out with a single version of the game priced at $100, or split the difference at $90.

My biggest concern isn't the price, it's the possibility/probability that they haven't negotiated perpetual rights to the music in the game and the licenses will eventually expire. I don't think they'll pull a The Crew because the backlash would be so severe it might lead to literal congressional scrutiny, but I could see them patching out music in the future, particularly if the game will require a constant internet connection.
 
CommanderBond
No. Just letting everyone know what I found.
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Oh okay. The same information was posted by Rockstar on Wednesday morning (about the time pre-orders in New Zealand were available), so it seemed like you might have been trying to suggest something was different.
Eunos_Cosmo
Well in the very least, absolutely nobody should pre-order a game that is digital only and doesn't seem to have any tangible reason to pre-order.
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Eunos_Cosmo
I don't think the backlash would be nearly as severe if Rockstar had just come out with a single version of the game priced at $100, or split the difference at $90.
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Yep, it's the paywalling stuff that's the issue - even if it was, like, a quid extra. If they'd just announced one version, fine. I wouldn't have even particularly cared if the $20 was just for 3/4/5 days' early access (only because it's single-player only; no leg-up in multiplayer for the money). It's just grubby, especially as they're crunching artists* to make the cosmetics to then remove unless you pay more.

On the physical release issue, Take Two's Zelnick told Variety there was no plan to delay physical releases to prevent leaks:

Zelnick also addressed online rumors that have spread about the possibility of Rockstar delaying the release of physical copies of “GTA 6” until 2027, in order to avoid leaks of the game, which will debut Nov. 19. “That’s not the plan,” the Take-Two chief said.
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So... I guess the plan was either to never have an actual physical release and just pretend that a code in a box counts, or we can add that to the Porkies column.


*Or firing them; Rockstar claims to be using Generative AI for internal "pilots and implementations", but not for game design/creation/assets. How much faith one should have in that is another personal choice, given the above.
 
Eunos_Cosmo
Well in the very least, absolutely nobody should pre-order a game that is digital only and doesn't seem to have any tangible reason to pre-order. I don't think the backlash would be nearly as severe if Rockstar had just come out with a single version of the game priced at $100, or split the difference at $90.

My biggest concern isn't the price, it's the possibility/probability that they haven't negotiated perpetual rights to the music in the game and the licenses will eventually expire. I don't think they'll pull a The Crew because the backlash would be so severe it might lead to literal congressional scrutiny, but I could see them patching out music in the future, particularly if the game will require a constant internet connection.
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Tangible reason being you can play it straight away without having to wait to download it
 
Eunos_Cosmo
Well in the very least, absolutely nobody should pre-order a game that is digital only and doesn't seem to have any tangible reason to pre-order. I don't think the backlash would be nearly as severe if Rockstar had just come out with a single version of the game priced at $100, or split the difference at $90.

My biggest concern isn't the price, it's the possibility/probability that they haven't negotiated perpetual rights to the music in the game and the licenses will eventually expire. I don't think they'll pull a The Crew because the backlash would be so severe it might lead to literal congressional scrutiny, but I could see them patching out music in the future, particularly if the game will require a constant internet connection.
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They have their own music label that helps handle music copyright & they have a different deal structure in place. V has 440+ licensed music, around 200+ is what we hear on the radio stations. Rockstar also likes to get more unknown, smaller artists to create music on some of the radio stations & these are much easier to pay fees for due to "exposure".

To my re-collection, none of V's music has been pulled since the launch in 2013 & I know at least 1-2 radio stations have been added in that time frame. I wouldn't worry about music in VI.
 
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