You're too kind.
Seriously though, thank you very much. 👍
That's my favorite design as well. To me, this design could be worked on the most. Small high-output engine and an aerodynamic body setup for high downforce, it's completely possible.
Hard to say. Some lean in the corners would change the angle of the downforce vector, and you could make it point into the corner which would increase turning force, but you'd also tend to lose some downforce as well. Then you would also need to consider the weight of the suspension that would allow the car to lean. It's not something I've really looked into.@Exorcet
Would it be beneficial if the Aero-car (Road Regatta
Was thinking it could make use of moving skirts on the pontoons/side-pods, a bit like ground effect F1 cars of old.
Front view describing what i mean:
I really do feel like we're getting somewhere. For a while so many ideas were being spat out that the tires kept spinning, and it wasn't until we buckled down for seriousness did we ever get somewhere.Well said and very possible you've to much weight of the suspension to gain advantage over a normal flat body style that stays on the ground.
I Think this 'Road Regetta' could be an awesome idea for the Community VGT, it is now Nessie's drawing, but not his idea, thanks to his contribution together with his own Giga-kart'ish design 2 very plausible designs for the VGT !
And I remember the cool drawings & idea's from @eran0004 as well ?! Is he still in the race?
We are getting somewhere !!
*Feeling excited*
*Pretty to much to soon... though*
@Exorcet
Would it be beneficial if the Aero-car (Road Regatta
Was thinking it could make use of moving skirts on the pontoons/side-pods, a bit like ground effect F1 cars of old.
Front view describing what i mean:
Like something with pop-up vertical wings out of the horizontal (base) wing? The vertical fins could turn 60 degrees both ways for maximum presure on the wheels for the most grip, I see this also as a nautical kind of aerodynamics, like bow thrusters on a yaght or big catamaran. And while braking they are rotating all 90 degrees creating a wall of fins for maximum air-brake.
I honestly don't know, i have little to no experience or knowledge when it comes to physics. I guess the common sense K.I.S.S (keep it simple) approach would suggest we keep the horizontal aerofoil static, in relation to the sidepods/vertical foils. Because with complexity often comes extra weight (as pointed out by Exorcet & YukinoSuzuka).
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I honestly don't know, i have little to no experience or knowledge when it comes to physics. I guess the common sense K.I.S.S (keep it simple) approach would suggest we keep the horizontal aerofoil static, in relation to the sidepods/vertical foils. Because with complexity often comes extra weight (as pointed out by Exorcet & YukinoSuzuka).
As for the pitch/direction of a moving central aerofoil, i would've thought the way iv'e approached it, would take advantage of the wheels with the most downforce load on them, being closer to the apex of a corner, (imagine an ice-skating speed skater, and the way they cross over their legs to grip the corner better). I think applying the 'Bernoulli's principle' to the inside turn of a corner compared to the outside makes more sense, especially when we add weight balance and tipping points into the equation, (though obviously i could be completely wrong, please someone correct me if i am).
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Sorry eran, i forget to ask: In this model is the the vehicle turning right or left? And is it the back or front of the vehicle we're looking at? I'd be lying if i said i completely understand it. (i'm not the sharpest tool in the box
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Bernoulli gives a good general idea, but you need to look at more than the ground clearance. Since tires work on slip angle, the car will also yaw in corners. Besides area ratios, curvature radius also changes air pressure. The yaw of the car can create different low pressure zones. What eran said about the downforce vector change direction is important to take into account because pressure is purely a normal force. It will only exert a force perpendicular to the point it's acting on. If the wing isn't level, you will get a side force. In your drawing it's lowering the car's turning ability.
Thats cool. But that doesn't address the extremely important issue of steering and feedback. The driver really needs those factors to be able to do anything worth while in the car. With this design the driver is getting the butt feeling of one side of the car, bad bad bad. And cant get feedback from steering wheel or any tires.Bernoulli gives a good general idea, but you need to look at more than the ground clearance. Since tires work on slip angle, the car will also yaw in corners. Besides area ratios, curvature radius also changes air pressure. The yaw of the car can create different low pressure zones. What eran said about the downforce vector change direction is important to take into account because pressure is purely a normal force. It will only exert a force perpendicular to the point it's acting on. If the wing isn't level, you will get a side force. In your drawing it's lowering the car's turning ability.
Finding the optimum would take CFD or wind tunnel testing. It would also require a more finalized designed as everything would be geometry sensitive.
Right now it's just a concept, or at least that's how I was presenting it. There is a lot of room to be flexible. A more conservative design could be made by enlarging the sidepods, allowing for more internal room. A thicker center airfoil section could also provide room for a more centralized engine, etc. We could also do something more like the Lotus 79 and use two center tunnels on either side of a low center section.
The design in its current form is pretty extreme, but I still doable in my opinion. Before ruling it out we need more specifics like required driver and engine space, etc.
I made a Lego model of the tilting wheels design
What's interesting about this configuration is that it only tilts the outer wheels, while the inner remains straight.
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I'm thinking a system of wires could be used, it would connect nicely to the maritime theme
