GTP Cool Wall: 1971-1980 Ford Pinto

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1971-1980 Ford Pinto

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Except for the obvious platform sharing, wide parts commonality and Ford's own explanation regarding it's development.
 
Resulting in the strikingly similar design cues.

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Tornado
Except for the obvious platform sharing, wide parts commonality and Ford's own explanation regarding it's development.
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The basic platform was it's own with the MII, the only similar thing was the basic looks. 2 of the engines it shared (which were also shared in Capri's, and other vehicles) and it had a revised version of the front suspension. That was it. Only about 10% of the parts swap over between the two. If you really want to get picky, the original Mustang was 85% Falcon while this is about 1/8th of that of the Pinto.

Calling the MII a rebodied Pinto is like calling the 2015 Mustang a new Fusion. The LTD/Fairmont was 4 door Fox Mustang...way more similar than these 2.
 
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Slash
The basic platform was it's own with the MII, the only similar thing was the basic looks. 2 of the engines it shared (which were also shared in Capri's, and other vehicles) and it had a revised version of the front suspension. That was it. Only about 10% of the parts swap over between the two. If you really want to get picky, the original Mustang was 85% Falcon while this is about 1/8th of that of the Pinto.

Calling the MII a rebodied Pinto is like calling the 2015 Mustang a new Fusion. The LTD/Fairmont was 4 door Fox Mustang...way more similar than these 2.
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The platform is quite a large part to be sharing, as are engines.

And it looks very similar to the Pinto, which is to say it looks pathetic for a 'pony car'.

Anyway, the Pinto will probably only be remembered for it's (exaggerated) flammable tendencies, SU.
 
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There is a clear commonality between the two. Fact. Now let's move on before we unleash the stallion again, even if I am somewhat guilty of doing so myself, and focus on the Pinto and how ludicrously uncool it is.
 
Uncool. The engine is the only thing sparing it. They can be something cool, but we're rating a stock one, and they aren't cool.


I would totally do that if I had one, only in my favorite colors.
 
As a design, The Pinto is much nicer and cleaner than the Mustang II. Even if they are very similar in shape, the detailing of the Pinto trumps the Mustang which just looks like a Pinto with Mustang-esq features grafted on.

The early Pinto shape is quite appealing for that sort of car.
 
It isn't pretty, but it's a diamond in the rough.

I'll be good with it and give it a Meh.
 
Slash
The basic platform was it's own with the MII, the only similar thing was the basic looks.
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The basic "platform" was directly derived from the Pinto (Ford has even admitted as much), with the main difference being the addition of a separate front subframe.


Slash
Only about 10% of the parts swap over between the two.
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It's 10% of the parts are directly shared. Not "only 10% of the parts swap". That's between the original 1971 Pinto and the 1974 Mustang, too. The 1975 and up Pintos are even closer since they just backported a good amount of the modified Mustang II parts.

Slash
If you really want to get picky, the original Mustang was 85% Falcon while this is about 1/8th of that of the Pinto.
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And no one is arguing that the original Mustang wasn't closer to the Falcon. The early Fox is probably even closer when compared to the Fairmont. The pre-redesign Mustang looks so close to the LTD that exterior parts might even transfer.

Slash
Calling the MII a rebodied Pinto is like calling the 2015 Mustang a new Fusion.
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First of all, no one called the Mustang II a rebodied Pinto. What is not being said here is that the Mustang II and the Pinto are like this:

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The point is that the Mustang II's lineage is still obvious, just like it is for these two:
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Even though those two share pretty much nothing directly but a transmission, door handles and wheel hubs.



What happened was someone said that it was the "parts bin for the Mustang II" (which it was) and you countered with the completely absurd idea that "This car has nearly nothing to do with the Mustang" when it was built directly off of the same mechanicals on the same platform. The final car was ultimately different because many of those parts were beefed up versions to deal with the larger weight and bigger footprint, but the shared roots are still obvious. Even at the time the car was on sale people knew it (which was the enire significance of Eleanor in the original Gone in 60 Seconds).
 
Tornado
The basic "platform" was directly derived from the Pinto (Ford has even admitted as much), with the main difference being the addition of a separate front subframe.



It's 10% of the parts are directly shared. Not "only 10% of the parts swap". That's between the original 1971 Pinto and the 1974 Mustang, too. The 1975 and up Pintos are even closer since they just backported a good amount of the modified Mustang II parts.


And no one is arguing that the original Mustang wasn't closer to the Falcon. The early Fox is probably even closer when compared to the Fairmont. The pre-redesign Mustang looks so close to the LTD that exterior parts might even transfer.


First of all, no one called the Mustang II a rebodied Pinto. What is not being said here is that the Mustang II and the Pinto are like this:

800px-Chevrolet_Uplander_LWB.jpg

800px-Buick_Terraza_--_09-26-2009.jpg




The point is that the Mustang II's lineage is still obvious, just like it is for these two:
800px-06-07_Cadillac_DTS.jpg

800px-5th_Cadillac_Seville_.jpg

Even though those two share pretty much nothing directly but a transmission, door handles and wheel hubs.



What happened was someone said that it was the "parts bin for the Mustang II" (which it was) and you countered with the completely absurd idea that "This car has nearly nothing to do with the Mustang" when it was built directly off of the same mechanicals on the same platform. The final car was ultimately different because many of those parts were beefed up versions to deal with the larger weight and bigger footprint, but the shared roots are still obvious. Even at the time the car was on sale people knew it (which was the enire significance of Eleanor in the original Gone in 60 Seconds).
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Fair enough 👍
 
On the one hand it's incredibly beige. On the other hand, you look like an idiot driving one because everyone will think that your car is about to explode. On the other hand, people will give your car a wide berth since they don't want to die a horrible fiery death.

Beige idiots who everyone stays away from aren't cool.
 
Justin
Ford's attempt at being Italian went way better than expected as they burst into flames much more often than their Italian counterparts.

Seriously Uncool.
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I've counted more Ferrari's and Lambo's that have done that than Pintos.
 
If I'm honest, I never knew of the Pinto's explosive tendencies. All I know is that I always ended up with a few in Car Town. Cool. :p
 
How can this be anything other than seriously uncool. It led to multiple deaths due to a problem that Ford knew about but decided not to fix because they calculated that it'd be cheaper for their customers to die and have their families sue Ford than it would be to fix it.

Why you'd want to purchase a car from a company who did that is beyond me.
 
Aren't those which are still left on the road now deemed safe~ish? Didn't Ford had to recall them after their financial miscalculation?

And I think this is a cool car. It has something, like the Mustang 2, that does something to me.
 
Cool, I like old econoboxes, although I'd take a Pacer over the Pinto.

Also, it looks like a Maverick.
 
Dennisch
Aren't those which are still left on the road now deemed safe~ish? Didn't Ford had to recall them after their financial miscalculation?

And I think this is a cool car. It has something, like the Mustang 2, that does something to me.
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Gas tank had to be relocated/reinforced surrounding it.
 
Slash
Anyways, I put it at a high cool simply for the fact of what it can be and what it can be is a uber fast car on the stupid cheap.
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...which applies to nearly every single old car out there. Not just explosive ones related to a pony.

Cano
Plus driving one on purpose means you don't really care what other people think of you, which barely pushes it to cool for me.
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I've yet to drive a car by accident. :p

SU, nothing I can possibly consider to drag it out of there.
 
I think there are way too many cars with Spanish names that have no relation to Spain or any Spanish-speaking country. The one exception is Lamborghini, because the logo is a bull. But Ford, Volkswagen and Porsche should name cars in their own language.

Not that it really matters.
 

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