GTP Cool Wall: 2013+ Jaguar F-Type

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2013+ Jaguar F-Type

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You know a car looks good when its hard to work out whether it or David Beckham looks better.
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Well played... well played...

Again, this car is Subzero (wish I could vote twice lol)
 
Very cool car. i've seen it run hard and the thing does haul. Dunno if the one I saw was the 6 or 8 version, but it sounded beautiful.

Still, I don't like it that much. It looks good, but I reckon it could have looked much better. The front and rear of the car have a certain something that I can't exactly pinpoint. I remember someone wrote in a previous post that it was finally a Jag coupe being different than an Aston. I think in that search for being different, they ruined it a bit.

And even if I don't mind the automatics in this, the world would be a vastly better place if this thing was offered with a manual, indeed. Barely cool.
 
The current XK showed up in what, 2007? That's getting near "ancient" at this point in the industry. The way things are at Land Rover/Jaguar, I'm not exactly anticipating a refresh of the XK, either.
 
YSSMAN
The current XK showed up in what, 2007? That's getting near "ancient" at this point in the industry. The way things are at Land Rover/Jaguar, I'm not exactly anticipating a refresh of the XK, either.
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Well they've already canned it. No evidence of another on the horizon for the time being, expect they're rather busy with the new small Jag.
 
It's a sports/supercar and to me that's usually as uncool as it can get, but besides being a Jaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaag, it's actually not a vulgar car to look at, it's not ostentatious. It's the kind of car that attracts respectful envy from bystanders instead of resentful envy. It's a soft-top and it sounds FAN-BLEEDING-TASTIC. No manual though so it's not Sub-Zero but it's a very high COOL!
 
One of the best looking cars in recent times, and also one of the worst sounding.

I'd excuse it for being that way with the V6, but the V8 is hardly any better, it doesn't have any tone to it, just a noise.

Normally I'd put it down to the recording not being able to really show the car as it is, but if you go to a 458 or Corvette video, then they sound nice, and it sounds even better in real life.
So if it sounds like crap in the videos, it's only going to be about a meh in real life.

Not to mention the ridiculous burbles and backfires, I didn't think it was possible to make a car sound worse like that.



Despite them ruining the image of the car with an awful exhaust system, the car still looks awesome.

Cool.

Edit: If it sounded just a wee bit more aggressive than this, then it would be perfect.

 
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I've read the praise for the noise the V6 and V8 make in all the articles I've seen in the mags, but that's the 1st time I've actually heard them 👍

On both of them, the pops and backfires on over-run are a bit contrived, and sound like they are there simply for the 'LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME!' factor (modern engines, with modern computer controlled fuel injection just don't do that). I don't think the cars styling needs the extra attention :lol:

However...

The V8 sounds really, really nice... deep and soulful. Could do with another 1k rpm on the top end to take the note a it higher, but it's MUCH nicer than that stupid artificial fake F1 sound a Ferrari V8 makes.

I work next to Mercedes World at Brooklands, and the sound isn't dissimilar to the noise I hear the AMG's making on my walk back from lunch, as they get thrashed round their test track... burbling V8's with blipped downchanges :D

Not so sure about the V6... at low revs it has a bit of the lovely, deep hollowness a 996C4S with a sports exhaust has, but it needs to harden more as the revs rise to sound REALLY good! (like a 911... but that's just my preference :D).
 
Yeah, it's a Jag, but look at it!

Just makes it to Sub Zero.
 
Bopop4
One of the best looking cars in recent times, and also one of the worst sounding.

I'd excuse it for being that way with the V6, but the V8 is hardly any better, it doesn't have any tone to it, just a noise.

Normally I'd put it down to the recording not being able to really show the car as it is, but if you go to a 458 or Corvette video, then they sound nice, and it sounds even better in real life.
So if it sounds like crap in the videos, it's only going to be about a meh in real life.

Not to mention the ridiculous burbles and backfires, I didn't think it was possible to make a car sound worse like that.



Despite them ruining the image of the car with an awful exhaust system, the car still looks awesome.

Cool.

Edit: If it sounded just a wee bit more aggressive than this, then it would be perfect.

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Yeah having a C63 blow by me the other day while I was doing 70mph to get on to the freeway and not expecting it will scare the hell out of you. Made me want one more than any other car.
 
Famine
Said no-one. Ever.
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Listen to either of the Type F videos, then the AMG I posted.

One sounds like people cared about the exhaust note, the other sounds like they intentionally decided to screw it up.

I didn't think you could actually make a V8 raspy enough to give you a dry throat just listening to it.
 
Famine
It's a slightly better reference for the source sound than a Youtube video.
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The way a car sounds in person isn't going to be radically different from a good sound video of it.

Porches, Corvettes, Ferraris, and that AMG all sound similar in a recording as what they do in real life.

Thus, a video is a perfectly good reference for what a car sounds like, and that Jaguar sounds awful.



Also, they should really tighten down headers, because that's what an engine sounds like on the overrun when the bolts are barely screwed in. Either that or it's just mapped wrong.
 
Bopop4
The way a car sounds in person isn't going to be radically different from a good sound video of it.
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Bopop4

Porches, Corvettes, Ferraris, and that AMG all sound similar in a recording as what they do in real life.

Thus, a video is a perfectly good reference for what a car sounds like, and that Jaguar sounds awful.


Also, they should really tighten down headers, because that's what an engine sounds like on the overrun when the bolts are barely screwed in. Either that or it's just mapped wrong.
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Most video recordings don't sound enough like the real thing. Especially if the original recording equipment isn't very good at capturing accurate sound. Most car videos nowadays use GoPros and other "rugged" video cameras. These have terrible sound reproduction as opposed to more casual-use cameras with better mics. Furthermore, cameras mounted to the car receive more of the high-pitched sounds transmitted through the camera mount... and the small mics tend to miss out on the lower frequencies. Note the difference between the sound here when the car is standing still and when it's moving:



Here's a particularly egregious example of GoPro audio. Note the difference between the high-pitched exhaust sound here:


And the lovely growl here from an external camera, as in your E63 video:


Nothing wrong with that sound... at all. Understandably a little higher pitched, because it's a smaller V8, but it has the same mellifluous growl as the 63.
 
Bopop4
The way a car sounds in person isn't going to be radically different from a good sound video of it.
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:lol:

It's cute that you apply that to Youtube videos :lol:
Bopop4
Porches, Corvettes, Ferraris, and that AMG all sound similar in a recording as what they do in real life.

Thus, a video is a perfectly good reference for what a car sounds like, and that Jaguar sounds awful.
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Indeed, just like Gran Turismo's sound samples are wavelength, amplitude and frequency perfect and sound similar to the real life cars. They're just missing colour a lot of the time - but hey, they're good enough right?

Right?

Bueller?


I'll just remind you again that I actually drove one for around an hour on a road test - and an unsupervised one at that. The sound on the videos? Not even close.
 
niky
Most video recordings don't sound enough like the real thing.
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That's what I pointed out in a previous post, it's not going to be as good in the video, but the whole characteristic of the car isn't going to change either.

The last video was better, but even in the Laguna Seca one the sound is incredibly raw.
I would expect it to be much smoother, but it sounds like there are 8 small engines in the car rather than one large one.

I'll put it like this, you have a highly skilled orchestra playing a piece of music together, that's the AMG.
And then the Type F is that same orchestra, but they're all playing different songs, and you decipher any of them.

Famine
It's cute that you apply that to Youtube videos
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Because it doesn't?

Maybe if you actually read what I'm posting you'd see that.

Famine
Indeed, just like Gran Turismo's sound samples are wavelength, amplitude and frequency perfect and sound similar to the real life cars. They're just missing colour a lot of the time - but hey, they're good enough right?
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Again, not sure how this makes any sense since one is a direct recording, and one is a sample from one of the worst sounding racing games.


This is the best one I could find, smoother, but it still sounds dry.
It is a Type R though.
 
Bopop4
That's what I pointed out in a previous post, it's not going to be as good in the video, but the whole characteristic of the car isn't going to change either.

The last video was better, but even in the Laguna Seca one the sound is incredibly raw.
I would expect it to be much smoother, but it sounds like there are 8 small engines in the car rather than one large one.
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The whole point of playing the Laguna SECA video is precisely to show how much the sound can differ.

I do a lot photography and video in cars. Accurately capturing the sound is very, very very difficult. I've driven cars that sound awesome in real life that sound like tin cans on video. When you hard mount a camera to the body of a motor vehicle, it amplifies the high-pitched sounds and records vibrations thrumming through the body or glass that aren't audible to the driver. The only way to get around this is to have a muffled microphone hanging freely inside the cockpit.

Let's put it this way... on-camera video sounds are tinny, because non-movie cameras have tiny ears. On-car video (unless you've got a man holding a movie camera sitting in the back seat... which nobody does anymore, because:GoPro) sounds are like welding your ear-bone to the door-frame. Just terrible.


E63: Idles like a diesel. Sounds hollow. Because:GoPro

And... the first video doesn't differ much from the one you posted with the AMG. The only notable difference being the AMG sounds slightly deeper because, again, it's a bigger displacement motor. (C'mon, I prefer the AMG 6.3 myself, but this is just ridiculous.)
 
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Let's put it this way... on-camera video sounds are tinny, because non-movie cameras have tiny ears. In-car video sounds are like welding your ear-bone to the door-frame. Just terrible.
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The thing is, I've never heard a car sound nice irl, and then go to the dogs to the point where you couldn't tell they were the same.

When I first heard the car on the Jaguar advert, it still sounded like it does now. I would imagine they would have accurate recording, plus there has to be at least one good recording on the internet, but everything that people have showed me or what I've searched has turned up nill.

I still like the car, but it sounds like they went too extreme on the raspyness and outright noise.
 
I've never heard a car video that sounded as full-bodied as the real thing. It's just not possible to do with recordings made outside a studio or played over laptop speakers.

And if you've never heard a nice sounding car go to the dogs, you've never recorded a good blat with a GoPro... :lol:

Bopop4
I still like the car, but it sounds like they went too extreme on the raspyness and outright noise.
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You can never have too much noise. No, really. California wouldn't allow it. :D

As per rasp, well, that's like your opinion, man. :lol:

I do get what you mean, though... it's like they pulled out all the stops to make it sound like a racecar, eschewing the understated purr you'd expect from a Jaguar, but they're trying to make a point about the F-Type being the sportiest Jag to come along for a long time.

Not the lightest, though... *cough* ...and no manual *double cough*

But like the stupidly blue factory color on the XFR-S, I think it's kind of cute. Sort of like Kiera Knightely burping in public, it's endearing. :lol:
 
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And if you've never heard a nice sounding car go to the dogs, you've never recorded a good blat with a GoPro... :lol:
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I've tried it with bikes, and the closest I could get to the real thing is when I had an earplug fall out, the distortion on the GoPro matched the ringing in my ear afterwards.:lol:


niky
understated purr you'd expect from a Jaguar, but they're trying to make a point about the F-Type being the sportiest Jag to come along for a long time.
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Exactly!

That's the word I was looking for, a Jaguar should purr, and the sports models should purr with just a hint more snarl.
 
And this goes right back to what I was saying earlier about mufflers... a car should be as loud as possible. If the muffler does anything other than allow you to technically have a muffler for inspection, you've got the wrong muffler. Subtlety is overrated.
 

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