GTP WRS-Online Event 1 : BallS1 to the Wall - January 29, 2014

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    Presents...

    BallS1 to the Wall

    An Online Race based on GT6 Week 1 Time Trial

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    :: Only Open to Qualified GTP_Registered Members ::

    :: Members are not obligated to take part ::


    January 29, 2014


    European Time Slot

    3:00 PM Eastern / 12:00 PM Pacific / 20:00 GMT

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    10:00 PM Eastern / 7:00 PM Pacific / 3:00 AM GMT

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    Australia/NZ Time Slot

    3:00 AM Eastern / 12:00 AM Pacific / 8:00 AM GMT / 7:00 PM AEDST / 10:00 PM NZ

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    Audi quattro S1 Pikes Peak '87 @ Apricot Hill Raceway

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    Stewards Notes
    First official WRS-OE race for GT6! Please read all posts carefully, down through WRP001's first reply, where the new elements are highlighted.
     
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    In the event of a field of 13-16 drivers we will disable mics and race with one grid. With 17+ we will split the grid (SEE Lounge Splits BELOW).

    Registration Form

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    (tables will auto update approximately every 30 minutes)

    Eligibility

    This WRS-Online event hosted by 3D3 Racing is open to GTP_Registered members only. If you are not currently on the registry run the GTP_Registry qualifier and join now!


    Registration Instructions

    The following must be performed by every driver for every event:
    • Click the registration button above, fill-in and submit the online registration form (be sure to use the PSN that's listed in the registry)
    • Leave a quick note in this thread to let us know you've registered and any other comments.
    The following must be performed only one time per driver (not per event):
    • Submit the 3D3 Racing Online Driver Database Entry Form. Your information will need to be verified before you are added to the db and before your ID will appear in the registered driver table above. You can view the official driver database here.
    Registration Changes

    If you want to change your time slot, add a time slot or update your color choices just click on the registration link and fill out the form again and submit with new values. Your last entry will override any previous entries.

    Cancellations

    If for some reason, after you register for the event, you are unable to attend please click the registration button above and complete the form again selecting "cancel" as your status. Please also post a note in this thread as the table above can take some time to update.


    Delaying or Restarting Race Start

    Once the race countdown timer has started, the race will only be restarted in these cases:
    • Multiple drivers report a black screen/hang, instead of the 3-2-1 countdown.
    • One or more drivers get disconnected before race-pace has begun ("GO" for grid-starts, end of formation lap for rolling starts).
    • Steward realizes there is a condition that would lead to an unfair or poor race experience.
    Once the race countdown timer has started, the race will explicitly NOT be restarted for:
    • Latecomers, even if you've registered
    • Driver realizes he picked the wrong car parts (ie, tires) or driving options (ie, Auto tranny)

    Lounge Splits **NEW**

    A more formal formula will be used to determine lobby assignments.

    First, every driver that confirms their registration will be ranked using an event specific handicap equal to the minimum (best) of the following:
    1. Handicap from the official registry (driver does nothing, falls back on official handicap)
    2. Handicap from the official time trial (driver included in official time trial results)
    3. Handicap computed using an unofficial offline ghost lap replay
      • Must conform to all time trial rules and be attached to a post in the online thread
      • Submitted after TT deadline on Monday @ 23:59 GMT
      • Submitted at least 8 hours prior to the event start time
    4. Handicap computed using the best clean lap of an online steward observed qualification race
      • Tire wear set to off, but otherwise conforming to online regulations
      • 5 lap race: 1 out lap, 3 timed hot laps, 1 cool down lap.
      • Scheduled with steward ahead of time (plan ahead and request via thread)
      • Completed at least 3 hours prior to the event start time

    Second, we will sort the confirmed drivers 90 minutes prior to the race and divide them up evenly. If there are an odd numbers of drivers the extra driver will be assigned to the A room. At that point the stewards convene and assign a director and supporting steward for each lobby. Then at about 50-60 minutes prior to the race the room #s and driver assignments will be published to the thread.



    Reserves: Drivers with reserve status at 90 minutes prior to event start will not be included in the lobby assignments, but will be listed with their applicable handicap in a reserve list. They will have to request on the thread to be added to a lobby and the assignment will be at the discretion of the stewards. In that case handicap will be used as a guide, but there are no guarantees last minute confirms/entries will get the room you want and in some rare cases may not get to race at all (e.g. if the room split is such that there is two full rooms or if the new driver would create an additional room that wouldn't be supportable with the number of stewards available). Reserves will be handled on a first to request basis using the online race thread. Do not use the google form to confirm/register at the last minute, but use a thread post instead. If you are on reserve list or not listed at all in the lobby assignments do not join a room until instructed to do so.



    Abuse: Because confirming guarantees you a grid spot it's important that nobody abuses the status. If you are fairly confident (80%) you are going to make the race sign up as confirmed ahead of time, but it's important you update your status as you get more information and for sure no later than 90 minutes prior to the race. At that point if you are not 99% sure you should be on reserve. This is a courtesy we ask, not only for the admins/stewards, but also for the benefit of other drivers that have accurately stated their status. We're going to use a three strike rule. A confirmed driver that "no shows" will receive 2 strikes. A confirmed driver that cancels less than 90 minutes of the race, but before race start will get 1 strike. Three strikes in any 8 week period and the driver risks being suspended from the online participation for 8 weeks. We know "stuff happens" and real life comes first so this allows some forgiveness, but we can't manage multiple rooms effectively if we don't know at least a bit ahead of time who is going to be showing up and we can't have people taking advantage of the system to guarantee their spot at the cost of someone else.


    These rules will only apply for weekly Wednesday events where more than 16 drivers are confirmed. In the case of 16 or less the situation is more relaxed as the stewards just open up one lobby, all confirmed drivers are guaranteed a spot, and reserves are given grid spots on a first come first serve basis.

    Goals of these rules?
    • Creates lounges of similar paced drivers equitably without relying on honor based practice laps.
    • Allows drivers that have improved beyond their handicap to qualify in a "faster" lounge.
    • Allows drivers that did not have time to run the TT to submit an offline lap well after the official TT deadline.
    • Allows drivers to run in an online setup to qualify if they don't want to deal with offline replays. These could be done during any of the practice sessions as long as a steward is present to observe.
    • Allows drivers to fall back on registry handicap if they have no time to pre-qualify.

    We hope/expect the vast majority of drivers are covered by their handicap or TT result and the other two options are only used in a few cases each week. Drivers who have not been official processed should take advantage of #3 or #4 or they will be "approximately" assigned based on our best guess of their handicap.

    Also note that the above procedures will typically only apply to lobby assignments. Within each lobby there will still be a pre-race qualification session to determine grid order.

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    Official Practice Times

    • NA: Tuesdays @ 8:00 PM Eastern | 5:00 PM Pacific | 12:00 AM GMT
    • EU: Tuesdays @ 20:00 GMT | 3:00 PM Eastern | 12:00 PM Pacific
    • Pre-Race: Lobby assignments will be posted ~1 hour prior to the official start time

    Basic Settings
    • Room Mode: PQR = Practice, Qualify, Race
    • Room Privacy: Public
    • Entry: Type GTP WRS to identify yourself if you don't use a GTP tag
    Room Settings
    • Room Comment: GTP_WRS Audi S1 @ Apricot
    • Room Type: Race for Real
    • Fixed Room Host: No
    • Max Number of Participants: 16 per lounge
    • Race Quality: Standard
    • Voice Chat Quality: Standard

    Course Settings
    • Course: Apricot Hill Raceway
    • No. of Laps: 40 + 1 formation
    • Weather: None
    • Weather Changeability: 0
    • Surface Water at Race Start: 0%
    • Time: 6:30 AM
    • Time Progression: 5 (race ends by 6:30 PM)

    Qualifier Settings
    • Qualifier Format: Race Alone
    • Time Limit: 5 Mins

    Race Settings
    • Hold Races Automatically: Disabled
    • Start Type: Staggered Formation Lap with Rolling Start (see below)
    • Grid Order: Fastest First
    • Boost: No
    • Penalty: None
    • Tire Wear/Fuel Consumption: Normal
    • Grip Reduction on Wet Track/Track Edge: Real
    • Minimum Number of Pit Stops: 0
    • Require Tire Type Change: Off
    • Race Finish Delay: 180 sec
    • Visible Damage: Off
    • Mechanical Damage: Light
    • Slipstream Strength: Real

    Car Selection Method
    • Car Selection Method: Courtesy Car (Audi quattro S1 Pikes Peak '87)
    • PP Limit: NA
    • Max Power Limit: NA HP
    • Minimum Weight: NA kg
    • Drivetrain: 4WD
    • Tires: Racing Hard
    • Nitrous: Prohibited
    • Vehicle Tuning: Prohibited
    • Custom Rims: NA
    • Oil change: NA

    Limit Driving Options
    • Skid Recovery Force: Prohibited
    • Active Steering: Prohibited
    • Active Stability Management (ASM): Available / Optional
    • Driving Line: Available / Optional
    • Traction Control: Available / Optional
    • ABS: Available / Optional
    • Handbrake: Prohibited

    Formation Lap


    • After the qualification time is complete a steward will record the results.
    • The system will place all drivers on the grid and begin the countdown timer.
    • Drivers should remain stopped on the grid after the countdown timer.
    • A steward will announce the starting order and drivers should proceed into a staggered formation in the order called.
    • Pole sitter will choose his/her preferred side of the track and other drivers will alternate sides.
    • There should be no overlap between cars in the staggered formation.
    • Speed limit on formation lap is 62 mph | 100 km/h and pole sitter should maintain this speed (or less) to keep pack together, in particular in the final sector.
    • Weaving or other tire warming procedures are NOT allowed during the formation lap.
    • Pole sitter will exit the last corner and take care to give enough time to allow all cars behind to safely exit the final corner.
    • Start marker for Apricot Hill Raceway is the start/finish line.
    • The pole sitter should start the race by accelerating to race pace at the identified start marker (track specific and may or may not be the start/finish line).
    • All other drivers should accelerate after the driver in front of you does so.
    • No passing is allowed before the start marker.
    • Be cautious and courteous in the first turn. Dive bombing will be penalized and will not be tolerated.


    Track Boundary Guidelines

    Drivers are expected to do their best to stay within track boundaries per the OLR. Mistakes happens over the course of a long race and the random off or two will be overlooked in most instances, but if a pattern of boundary abuse is observed penalties will be handed out which include 15 seconds for a "minor" pattern of abuse, 30 seconds for a "substantial" pattern of abuse, and a DQ for "complete disregard" of track boundaries. In cases where penalties may not impact the driver (e.g. DC), the penalty may be carried over to the next event and may be applied as a 5 (minor) or 10 (major) grid spot penalty.

    It's up to the admins' discretion exactly what qualifies as "minor", "substantial" or "complete disregard". Going outside the rumble by a centimeter isn't as serious as a car length wide excursions into the run off area. Factors such as dirty air and traffic also come into play. If you find yourself going wide then the next lap you're expected to slow down a bit more to make sure you stay within boundaries. If you make the same mistake multiple times and you want to avoid a penalty you can always self-penalize during the race by lifting for a very brief period upon returning to the track. Continuing to hammer the throttle after repeated boundary overruns may very well end with a post race penalty.​

    General Guidelines:
    • Contact with walls should be avoided. Wall riding/bouncing to gain time will be penalized and/or can result in disqualification. This includes pit entry/exit.
    • Rumble/ripple strips are part of the track
    • Runoff areas are not part of the track including green painted concrete.
    • If you overrun boundaries by accident, lift momentarily to make sure you don't gain any advantage.
    • Do not complete a pass that was made possible by going outside track boundaries.
    Track Specific Guidelines:
    • Keep two tires on/inside rumbles exiting turn one and the final corner.
    • Keep two tires on/inside rumbles exiting the hairpin.
    • Do not use pit lane to try and avoid other drivers drafting you, only use pit lane to enter pits.

    Standard Clean OLR Rules Apply:

    • Unless otherwise specified, all rules from the original WRS event apply.
    • You are expected to drive clean at all times as if you are racing in the WRS. All participants are required to follow the GTPlanet Online Racing Rules & Guidelines.
    • 3D3 Race Stewards (who are taking part in race, but will review the replay) reserve the right to kick out or invalidate the result of any driver from the Race Room for driving offensively. If you ignore any warnings from the stewards and are kicked out of the race room, you will not be allowed to participate in future 3D3 events.
    • Contact with walls should be avoided. Wall riding/bouncing to gain time will be penalized and/or can result in disqualification.
    • Rumble/ripple strips are part of the track
    • Runoff areas are not part of the track including green painted concrete.
    • Limit your contact with walls or objects, visible or invisible
    • No hybrids
    • No cheating of any kind
    • Nothing that goes against the spirit of the rules
    • Passing and Blocking: Aggressive blocking is not permitted, but the driver in front has the right to choose his/her line and braking point and drivers behind should respect that line. Be especially careful when you are on older tires than the competition as the speed difference may be significant. These events are "for fun" so just play nice and take a conservative rather than an aggressive approach when possible.

    Good Luck, OLR Team:gtplanet:

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    Notes:​
    • Practice times submitted must be from an online lap with tire wear on.
    • Lap splits are not allowed until after the official time trial has closed.
    • Lounge splits will no longer be based on practice laps.
    • If you go faster in another session just re-submit, only your last submitted lap will be displayed and used.
    • Please be sure to match the regulations used for the events so all drivers are using a common set of regulations.
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    Directors Note: This is our first official event in GT6. :cheers:

    We've introduced a few things in past weeks in preparation for this event so most of you should be experienced in the majority of the procedures. Pit stops and fuel strategy will be new this week.

    Lounge Splits. See the registration post for the more formal method by which we will assign drivers to lobbies when more than 16 drivers confirm for a single time slot.

    Practice Board. The practice board is live and we encourage you to use it to compare online lap times. There is an official offline competition using this same combo that is still live so do not discuss any lap times unless they are run online with tire wear enabled.

    Qualification / Formation Lap. No change from last week.

    Courtesy Car. The car will be provided to you via the courtesy garage when you enter the lobby. You will not need to purchase the car. You should double check driving options (tires, TCS, etc) after entering the lounge.

    Pit Stops and Strategy. This event consists of a single race lasting at least 50 minutes. Tire wear / fuel consumption will be enabled thus pit stops and fuel/tire strategy will come into play. Feel free to discuss your strategy in the thread or keep it secret. Much like tunes during tuning weeks we encourage people to share information, but it's not required. Do not prod someone for their strategy or tune if they don't post it. Feel free to ask questions in general however and those willing to help I'm sure will replay. Typically a steward [usually me :sly:] will publish a standard pit/fuel strategy so that those without sufficient time to test will have something to go by. But it's always better to do the testing yourself and tailor that to your own personal driving style. I may abuse tires more/less than you so my strategy may not fit yours exactly. Our events are structured, when possible, so that two different strategies may be close in terms of overall time so many times you'll see drivers running different strategies or even changing on the fly based on what their close competition is doing on track.

    Incident Reports. Per the OLR, minor incidents should be handled via PM between parties if possible without the need for steward involvement. If an understanding cannot be reached then PM a steward with pertinent information. Major incidents should be formally reported. Each report must include the lap and time of the incident as well as the drivers explanation of the incident. Remember, if a driver makes a mistake but follows the OLR and makes their own contact concessions they will not be penalized. However, if the same driver repeatedly makes the same mistakes the issue will be addressed. Typically penalties are of the minor, major and serious level resulting in 15 second, 30 second or DQ penalties respectively. However, the stewards reserve the right to implement whatever penalty we feel is fair given the situation including starting grid penalties in future events.

    Results Tracking. Starting with this event all results will be tracked in our results database and official results will be posted to the thread. Participation, wins and podiums will be tracked and accumulated over time for display in our summary tables in the historical results thread.
     
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    Thank goodness we don't have to buy one. :dopey: I was hoping it was going to be set up this way. It's an expensive ride.

    Signed up for both North America and Europe. You South Pacific guys are too far off my time zone; but if I ever become an insomniac, I'll start doing those too.
     
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  8. Speedy6543

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    Signed up for EU!
     
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    I'm in for the EU race for sure :)
     
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    Signed up for AU/NZ.
    Love the strategy part, so I'll be playing around over the weekend. :)
     
  11. Allibubba99

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    I am only in for the NA race this week. I have to work during the EU time slot.

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    Signed up, hoping for lots of practice sessions. I think this event will take some getting used to being in traffic, especially in turn 1 going into turn 2. It is so easy to lose it when applying the brakes or downshifting too early. I think some caution will be needed in those turns or there will be quite a few crashes. I think that I will find a speed where I can do those turns consistently, even if it is slower. In a long race sometimes staying on track is more important than tenths of seconds in a sector.
     
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    Practice Room ID 1472-4711-0038-4891-3111 closed

    If one of the Head Honchos show up, please double check my settings in case I missed something. It's just a touch different than the last couple.
     
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    Been :drool:ing for a few hours now over @Allibubba99's photos there...:tup:

    Guessing @PASM is piloting one of those puppies, too. :bowdown:

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    Oops, the practice lap time I made up to test the board never got deleted.

    Might jump on later.... Or work on a video project promoting our next special event. Will decide in an hour.
     
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    What's the difference between a practice time and a TT time? Shouldn't these times only be posted AFTER the TT time limit expires?

    And, can I race if I've submitted a TT qual but I'm not in the official registry yet?
     
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    Yes Phil, welcome back. :tup: We have your qualifier laps so you are good to race this one.

    Online room times are slower because with tire/fuel wear, the weight slows it down.

    If you don't want people to know your real time, don't put your absolute best up there. It's just for fun now. :)
     
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    Online times are done online only with tire wear on. The cars have fuel weight which they don't offline and could have any level of fuel in them. Also there could be minor drafts impacts although people don't usually post highly assisted laps.

    The admins discussed this before I enabled it this week and we decided we would allow an online practice board as long as the last sector splits weren't posted individually and obviously no offline lap times or times done without tire wear are allowed. The times here will certainly be different from offline and the exact delta is hard to tell.

    And yes, you have submitted your qualifier so you can join us immediately... Just fill out the one time driver form and sign up for any event.
     
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    A mixed class enduro, I hope? :D
     
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    Room open 1472-4710-9995-5394-6494
     
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    Be there soon.

    EDIT: Animera was tearing it up and took over the lounge when WRP001 and I left.
     
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    :lol: at tearing it up. Myself and K1utch are still there.

    Some observations:

    - Looks like I can get through the whole race on 1 tank of fuel.
    - Laptimes, for me, were on average 1.5s slower on the 2nd set of tyres.

    Room closed now.
     
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  23. Hottracer88

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    Sign up fo NA be my first race with u guys but i'm use to online racing alittle bit. I was in a nascar league last year and we run our on cations call them out run our on pace laps.
     
  24. WRP001

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    Note: Pit exit can be very tricky at this track as it dumps you near the entry to turn 1 which is already dangerous at the best of times.

    Cars exiting the pits must stay left and give the right of way to cars on track until they are up to speed. When entering or exiting the pits stay on the pit road side of any dividing lines until they end. We will post better guidelines for pit entry and exit after a few practices.

    There is no pit entry speed limit in the WRS. However, you must enter in a safe manner that will not cause any incidents. You cannot ride walls or leave track surface on entry or enter so fast the AI cannot stay off walls or on track surface. That won't be an issue at Apricot Hill Raceway, but can be at other tracks like Motegi and La Sarthe.
     
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    Signed up for EU race, on reserve for the AU race :tup:
     
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  27. jfro22

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    Signed up for the NA event. Hopefully enough ppl show up so we can split the rooms this week
     
  28. GTP_DeathStar

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    I've noticed a bug with the pit stops. I hope it's just me. I've hosted two rooms this morning and both times I encountered the same problem.

    The issue is Racing Hard tires not showing up on the tire choice drop down menu during a pit stop after running laps. The highest tire on the list is Sports Medium. I'll go run a lap on the SM tires and come back to see the same thing. I've exited the track to check the settings and everything is as it should be: Racing Hard maximum tire and no required tire change. I went back out on the track, ran some more laps, and then hit the pits. The problem resolved itself.

    The second time I hosted I saw the same exact problem and it was fixed in the same exact way: exiting track, double check my settings, change NOTHING, and then the issue is resolved when I go back on track and pit after a couple laps. As I said, maybe it's just me when I host; but just in case all drivers should double check this to make sure they don't also encounter this dilemma. I will also be checking this when I am in another person's room, as I will not be hosting.
     
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    May I suggest just re-opening the settings window before going onto the track for the first time? It's as if the setting doesn't work on the first attempt to set it...
     
  30. pilmat

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    Sorry for the double post, but it's a different subject.

    The registry doesn't seem to have accepted my submission (EU - confirmed, US - maybe, AU - no). Could it be due to not having a division (I think I was D3 gold in GT5...)?