GTP_WRS-Online : Special I - WRS Goes to Hell - 2.4 Hours of the Nürburgring

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    :: Only Open to Qualified GTP_Registered Members ::

    :: Members are not obligated to take part ::

    Feature race 2.4 hours of the Nürburgring

    Sunday, March 4th

    3:00 PM Eastern / 12:00 PM Pacific / 20:00 GMT / Check Local

    60 minute support races

    Race 1 - Saturday, F
    ebruary 24th
    4:00 PM Eastern / 1:00 PM Pacific / 21:00 GMT / Check Local

    Race 2 - Wednesday, February 28th

    3:00 PM Eastern / 12:00 PM Pacific / 20:00 GMT / Check Local

    Race 3 - Wednesday, February 28th
    10:00 PM Eastern / 7:00 PM Pacific / 3:00 AM GMT / Check Local

    Race 4 - Saturday, March 3rd

    12:00 PM Eastern / 9:00 AM Pacific / 17:00 GMT / Check Local

    Race 5 - Saturday, March 3rd
    4:00 PM Eastern / 1:00 PM Pacific / 21:00 GMT / Check Local
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    Official Practice Times
    • All Drivers are encouraged to open practice lobbies and post lobby numbers to this thread :gtplanet:
    • Pre-Race: Lobby assignments will be posted ~1 hour prior to the official start time
    Basic Settings
    • Room Mode: Practice/Race
    • Room Privacy: Public
    Room Settings
    • Room Name: WRS Special I Nurburgring
    • Race Type: Race for Real
    • Fixed Room Ownership: No
    • Max. Number of Participants: 16 per lobby
    • Minimum Drive Rating: -- (Not Enforced)
    • Minimum Sportsmanship Rating: -- (Not Enforced)
    Track Settings
    • Track: Nürburgring 24h
    • Select Conditions: 20:30 Sunny
    • No. of laps: 21 (see Race end further down in this post)
    Race Settings
    • Start Type: Grid Start (see race start further down in this post)
    • Grid Order: Set by host
    • Boost: Off
    • Slipstream Strength: Real
    • Visible Damage: On
    • Mechanical Damage: Light
    • Tyre Wear: 2x
    • Fuel Depletion: 3x
    • Initial Fuel: Default
    • Grip Red. on Wet Track/Track Edge: Real
    • Race Finish Delay: 180 sec
    Regulation Settings
    • Filter by Category: --
    • Balance of Performance: Off
    • Power Limit: No Limit (Greyed Out)
    • Weight: No Limit (Greyed Out)
    • Maximum Tyre Rating: Racing: Hard
    • Minimum Tyre Rating: Racing: Hard (Greyed Out)
    • Livery Restrictions: No Limit
    • Car Number Type: Nations Cup Number
    • Assign Car Numbers Automatically: None
    • Kart Usage: Off
    Penalty Settings
    • Ghosting During Race: None
    • Shortcut Penalty: None
    • Wall Collision Penaly: None
    • Wall Collision Detection: Default (Greyed Out)
    • Side Contact Penalty: Off
    • Correct Vehicle Course After Wall Collision: Off
    • Replace Cars When they Leave the Track: Off
    • Flag Rules: On
    Limit Driving Options
    • Countersteering Assistance: Prohibited
    • Active Stability Management (ASM): Prohibited
    • Driving Line Assists: No Limit
    • Traction Control: No limit
    • ABS: No limit
    • Auto-Drive: Prohibited
    • Handbrake: Prohibited
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    Car Selection Method
    • Car Selection Method: Garage
    • Car Filters: Filter by Make -> Manufacturers -> Porsche ->
      Cayman GT4 Clubsport '16 // 911 RSR (911) '17 // 919 Hybrid (Porsche Team)'16
    • BOP: Off
    • Max Power Limit: 379BHP // 509BHP // 500BHP (stock)
    • Minimum Weight: 1300 // 1243 // 875 kg (stock)
    • Drivetrain: --
    • Tires: Racing Hard
    • Vehicle Tuning: Prohibited
    • Custom Paint, Wheels, Number: Allowed
    • Brake Balance Adjustment: Allowed


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    Qualifying Support Race
    • Type: Live Online Single Stint - No pits
    • Length: Single out-lap and 1 single timed hot lap.
    • Groups: Group qualifying will be used if the grid size is large enought to warrant safety in order to avoid traffic during qualifying.
    • Notes: Drivers not in the lounge by the time the first driver has entered the track after reset will not be allowed to qualify. They are welcome to join the race, but will start at the back of the grid. If we are running multiple qualifiying groups and the driver enters before the last group has entered track an exception will be made.
    Qualifying Main Feature Race
    • There are 5 support races. Every driver has to attend at least one of these support races in the car they want to drive the main feature race in.
    • A driver can attend as many support races as they want and in whichever car they want, after their mandatory support race in the car selected for the feature race is completed.
    • The fastest lap in your support race will determine lobby split and grid order for the main feature race.
    • In an extroardinairy circumstance the stewards can decide to change roomsplits at their discretion.
    • The stewards may exclude drivers who are not able to control the car on track and around traffic. The driver may then pick a slower class car to do the races in. These decisions happen at the stewards' discretion.

    Race start

    • After the qualifying time is complete, a steward will record the results.
    • The system will place all drivers on the grid and begin the countdown timer.
    • Drivers should remain stopped on the grid after the countdown timer, or as follows:
    • Gridstart is in order for this race
      LMP1 will start at greenlight.
      GT3 will wait until the timer is at 30 seconds.
      GT4 will wait until the timer is at 60 seconds. Moving while waiting for the start of the GT3 or GT4 class will result in a penalty.
    • False starts will result in a penalty.
    • After the start the leader of the class will accelerate to 100kmh/62mph and the pack should perform a staggered formation till T3 (beginning of the back straight on the GP track). As soon as the driver hears the beep when passing T3 he may now accelerate to race pace.
    • Be cautious and courteous in the first turn. Dive bombing will be penalized and will not be tolerated.

    Driver change pitstop

    • One of your pit stops needs to include a mandatory 5 minute pause.
    • This can be achieved by not pressing any buttons after you enter pits.
    • Wait for the pit stop duration counter (right side) to reach 5 minutes.
    • Hold down the Share button to take a screen shot as a proof.
    • Proceed with your pit stop as usual by selecting or skipping tires.
    • If you don't get it right you need to start over during another pit stop. The penalty for not completing the mandatory pause is double the time you miss (so up to 10 minutes).
    • Make sure to watch the following demonstration video:

    Overtaking Other Classes

    • Faster class cars will normally try to pass on the left hand side.
    • Faster class cars are responsible for a clean overtake on the slower class cars
    • Slower class cars should leave room on the left hand side at the earliest convenience.
    • When driving on longer straight sections, it's advisable for the Gr.3 and Gr.4 cars to remain on track right to make overtakes simpler for the top class and avoid accidents.
    • Although kept to a strict minimum, faster class cars may overtake on the right hand side if they can make a clean pass. However, any contact can result in an heavier penalty for not following the advice to place the overtake on the left hand side.
    • Faster class cars will need to be patient when overtaking slower class cars as there's often only one line possible through a sequence of corners.
    Race End
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    • The race will finish after 20 laps. After passing the start/finish line the leader should immediately slow to 50 mph / 80 kph and announce the checkered flag (press start and type "Checkered Flag"). This cannot be done with voice, it MUST be typed. No car should pass the first place car at any time going forward. The leader must now drive to the finish at a moderate pace and cross the finish for lap 21. Any close finishes at the line will be reviewed with replay for the official results. Note: if in doubt, finish your lap and the results will be reviewed.
    • After the checkered flag is announced all drivers should complete their current lap and their race is finished when they next pass the finish line. They should line up behind the train of cars that have already finished, moving at 50 mph / 80 kph. When the last car passes the start/finish line we will announce race end, then everyone except the leader should proceed to parc ferme located at the end of the Grand Prix track. We will then wait for the leader to finish lap 21, so all drivers can save the replay.
    • If you are in the pits beyond the start/finish line when the leader takes the checkered flag you can complete your lap only if you can exit pit road before the leader passes the pit exit. You cannot pass the leader on the parade lap.
    Track Boundary Guidelines
    Drivers are expected to do their best to stay within track boundaries per the OLR. Mistakes happen over the course of a long race and the random off or two will be overlooked in most instances, but if a pattern of boundary abuse is observed penalties will be handed out which include 15 seconds for a "minor" pattern of abuse, 30 seconds for a "substantial" pattern of abuse, and a DQ for "complete disregard" of track boundaries. In cases where penalties may not impact the driver (e.g. DC), the penalty may be carried over to the next event and may be applied as a 5 (minor) or 10 (major) grid spot penalty.

    It's up to the admins' discretion exactly what qualifies as "minor", "substantial" or "complete disregard". Going outside the rumble by a centimeter isn't as serious as a car length wide excursions into the run off area. Factors such as dirty air and traffic also come into play. If you find yourself going wide then the next lap you're expected to slow down a bit more to make sure you stay within boundaries. If you make the same mistake multiple times and you want to avoid a penalty you can always self-penalize during the race by lifting for a very brief period upon returning to the track. Continuing to hammer the throttle after repeated boundary overruns may very well end with a post race penalty.

    General Guidelines:
    • Contact with walls should be avoided. Wall riding/bouncing to gain time will be penalized and/or can result in disqualification. This includes pit entry/exit.
    • Rumble/ripple strips are part of the track
    • Runoff areas are not part of the track.
    • If you overrun boundaries by accident, lift momentarily to make sure you don't gain any advantage.
    • Do not complete a pass that was made possible by going outside track boundaries.
    Track Specific Guidelines:
    • TBD
    Standard Clean OLR Rules Apply:
    • Unless otherwise specified, all rules from the original WRS event apply.
    • You are expected to drive clean at all times as if you are racing in the WRS. All participants are required to follow the GTPlanet Online Racing Rules & Guidelines
    • WRS Race Stewards (who are taking part in race, but will review the replay) reserve the right to kick out or invalidate the result of any driver from the Race Room for driving offensively. If you ignore any warnings from the stewards and are kicked out of the race room, you will not be allowed to participate in future WRS events.
    • Contact with walls should be avoided. Wall riding/bouncing to gain time will be penalized and/or can result in disqualification.
    • Rumble/ripple strips are part of the track
    • Runoff areas are not part of the track including green painted concrete.
    • Limit your contact with walls or objects, visible or invisible
    • No hybrids
    • No cheating of any kind
    • Nothing that goes against the spirit of the rules
    Passing and Blocking:
    Aggressive blocking is not permitted, but the driver in front has the right to choose his/her line and braking point and drivers behind should respect that line. Be especially careful when you are on older tires than the competition as the speed difference may be significant. These events are "for fun" so just play nice and take a conservative rather than an aggressive approach when possible.

    Good Luck, OLR Team :gtplanet:

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    :: Feature Race - 2.4 Hours of the Nürburgring ::


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    Eligibility
    This WRS-Online event hosted by 3D3 Racing is open to GTP_WRS Registered members only. If you are not currently on the registry, join now by following the GTP_WRS Registration!

    Delaying or Restarting Race Start
    Once the race countdown timer has started, the race will only be restarted in these cases:
    • Multiple drivers report a black screen/hang, instead of the 3-2-1 countdown.
    • One or more drivers get disconnected before race-pace has begun ("GO" for grid-starts, end of formation lap for rolling starts).
    • Steward realizes there is a condition that would lead to an unfair or poor race experience.
    Once the race countdown timer has started, the race will explicitly NOT be restarted for:
    • Latecomers, even if you've registered
    • Driver realizes he picked the wrong car parts (ie, tires) or driving options (ie, Auto tranny)
    Lounge Splits
    A more formal formula will be used to determine lobby assignments.
    First, every driver that confirms their registration will be ranked using an event specific handicap equal to the minimum(best) of the following:
    1. Handicap from the official registry (driver does nothing, falls back on official handicap)
    2. Handicap from the official time trial (driver included in official time trial results)
    3. Handicap computed using an unofficial offline ghost lap replay
      • Must conform to all time trial rules and be attached to a post in the online thread
      • Submitted after TT deadline on Monday @ 23:59 GMT
      • Submitted at least 8 hours prior to the event start time
    4. Handicap computed using the best clean lap of an online steward observed qualification race
      • Tire wear set to off, but otherwise conforming to online regulations
      • 5 lap race: 1 out lap, 3 timed hot laps, 1 cool down lap.
      • Scheduled with steward ahead of time (plan ahead and request via thread)
      • Completed at least 3 hours prior to the event start time
    Second, we will sort the confirmed drivers 90 minutes prior to the race and divide them up evenly. If there are an odd numbers of drivers the extra driver will be assigned to the A room. At that point the stewards convene and assign a director and supporting steward for each lobby. Then at about 50-60 minutes prior to the race the room #s and driver assignments will be published to the thread.

    Reserves: Drivers with reserve status at 90 minutes prior to event start will not be included in the lobby assignments, but will be listed with their applicable handicap in a reserve list. They will have to request on the thread to be added to a lobby and the assignment will be at the discretion of the stewards. In that case handicap will be used as a guide, but there are no guarantees last minute confirms/entries will get the room you want and in some rare cases may not get to race at all (e.g. if the room split is such that there is two full rooms or if the new driver would create an additional room that wouldn't be supportable with the number of stewards available). Reserves will be handled on a first to request basis using the online race thread. Do not use the google form to confirm/register at the last minute, but use a thread post instead. If you are on reserve list or not listed at all in the lobby assignments do not join a room until instructed to do so.

    Abuse: Because confirming guarantees you a grid spot it's important that nobody abuses the status. If you are fairly confident (80%) you are going to make the race sign up as confirmed ahead of time, but it's important you update your status as you get more information and for sure no later than 90 minutes prior to the race. At that point if you are not 99% sure you should be on reserve. This is a courtesy we ask, not only for the admins/stewards, but also for the benefit of other drivers that have accurately stated their status. We're going to use a three strike rule. A confirmed driver that "no shows" will receive 2 strikes. A confirmed driver that cancels less than 90 minutes of the race, but before race start will get 1 strike. Three strikes in any 8 week period and the driver risks being suspended from the online participation for 8 weeks. We know "stuff happens" and real life comes first so this allows some forgiveness, but we can't manage multiple rooms effectively if we don't know at least a bit ahead of time who is going to be showing up and we can't have people taking advantage of the system to guarantee their spot at the cost of someone else.

    These rules will only apply for weekly Wednesday events where more than 16 drivers are confirmed. In the case of 16 or less the situation is more relaxed as the stewards just open up one lobby, all confirmed drivers are guaranteed a spot, and reserves are given grid spots on a first come first serve basis.

    Goals of these rules?
    • Creates lounges of similar paced drivers equitably without relying on honor based practice laps.
    • Allows drivers that have improved beyond their handicap to qualify in a "faster" lounge.
    • Allows drivers that did not have time to run the TT to submit an offline lap well after the official TT deadline.
    • Allows drivers to run in an online setup to qualify if they don't want to deal with offline replays. These could be done during any of the practice sessions as long as a steward is present to observe.
    • Allows drivers to fall back on registry handicap if they have no time to pre-qualify.
    We hope/expect the vast majority of drivers are covered by their handicap or TT result and the other two options are only used in a few cases each week. Drivers who have not been official processed should take advantage of #3 or #4 or they will be "approximately" assigned based on our best guess of their handicap.

    Also note that the above procedures will typically only apply to lobby assignments.
     
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  5. BigDawg_1281

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    I do plan to participate @GTP_Dutchy. Even tho I suck terribly at this track :nervous:. But, I don't want to miss out on the fun. So, I will update when I figure out which qualifier.
     
  6. Mires

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    Mighty Grüne Hölle, with not a car/-s I might like at all..

    Anyway, looking at my schedule, I'll probably be able to do the race, probably in the slowest cat. Will update this shortly.
     
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    practice lobby open in ring rats
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  8. Racingworld68

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    Oh yeah. Brings back memories. 2hours and 24 minutes racing. Did a few of them in the past :D
    I will certainly do a few one hour races but i do not know if i will be able to do the main race. Fingers crossed... and thank you for organising this.
     
  9. quentin1974

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    I like the sound this. I hope to make all the support races and the main race. Glad my wife lets me race.
     
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    Yup definently, with the difference in pace between the LMP and the other classes practice is definently the way to go in this combo. It's one thing to be able to control your beast on a quiete lap on the ring. but it's something completly different with a bunch of lmp1's in your review mirror / a bunch of gr3 and gr4 traffic in front of you for that matter.
     
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    Like @GTP_Dutchy said, definitely something everyone should practice. It is something else when you are in a Cayman and a 911 is getting ready to pass, then here comes an LMP :eek::nervous: It is a rush and insanely fun.
     
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    I'm in, RSR and plan on adding snow plough wings to stop those pesky LMP1's :p
     
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    I really want to use the LMP, it is so fun to drive. I just worry how competitive I will be. I know @GTP_Dutchy and @PASM will leave me behind.
     
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    It's not all about winning Rob it's about what you get out of it and if you like the LMP1 then I say go for it :cheers:
     
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    I'm thinking about it, hard :scared:. Maybe I can make my bright green Patron livery for it :idea:. I do have more laps in the 919 on this track than anything else...

    Decisions decisions :lol:
     
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    That livery is :drool::drool::drool:
     
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    I was thinking about trying the lmp also. But do I really want to spend my 1,000,000 credits and be broke again.
     
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    In about 45 minutes you can earn the credits needed go to GT League -> professional league -> premium sports -> Blue Moon - Use any high powered sports car like the 911 GT3 keep it stock so around the N500 mark throw on some soft tyres. Draft when you can. The front runners will run you down on the straights but not in the corners. Easy win for 350,000ish credits per 12 minutes :cheers:

    EDIT: forgot to say keep in clean for the clean race bonus
     
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    It's fun. You do need patience when you catch the 911s and Caymans. I just feel really comfortable with it tho. Well, more comfortable than the 911 and a ton more than the Cayman.
     
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    I registered in the Cayman, and plan to make as many of the support races as possible. I likely will miss next Saturday, but will make the Wednesday NA race, and at least one of the Saturday support races on the 3rd.

    Nice to see that the registration spread is fairly even so far. 5 each of the lower class cars, along with 3 of the top class. I'm sure it will continue to fill out. :)
     
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    I registered for Gr1. I know, I'm probably crazy :boggled:. It's @Argon's fault :lol:. I will be practicing my :censored: off for the next 2 weeks.

    I plan to make support race 2. I am hoping to make races 1 and 5. Will see if I can get off work in time.
     
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    :lol::lol:
     
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    I’m in. Very tough choice between the RSR and the Cayman.
     
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    Practice room up.
     
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    Psst... Mike, they have free beer AND pit girls in LMP :cheers: :lol:
     
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    Coming...got to post some :censored: splits first
     
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    I'm in, if I'm still registered in WRS.
     
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    I registered in the cayman and plan to make race 1 and maybe race 3 of the support races.
     
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