GTP_WRS-Online : Special III - 2014 WRS F3[D3] Grand Prix of Monaco - May 22-25

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Presents...

The 2014
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A Single Seater Special Event

:: Only Open to Qualified GTP_Registered Members ::

:: Members are not obligated to take part ::


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Steward's Notes:

This special event has been designed to offer participants the Full Single Seater Experience, the Formula 3[D3]. The Formula 3[D3] season will visit a few classic stops on the calendar of Formula 1, starting with the WRS Grand Prix of Monaco. Each Grand Prix will be a standalone event. Like in Formula 1, the WRS Grand Prix includes free practice sessions on Thursday and Friday, a three round knockout qualifying session on Saturday, and a full length race on Sunday.

Formula 3[D3] Experience:
  • Live F1 style knockout qualification
  • F1 style formation lap and standing start (race starts at the 3 minute mark)
  • Race distance will match the real FIA Formula 1 Grand Prix (+1 for the formation lap)
News and Updates:
  • May 6, 2014: The WRS Formula 3[D3] Grand Prix of Monaco announced and registration open.
  • May 24, 2014: PASM takes pole position with a 1'13.164
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Good Luck, OLR Team:gtplanet:
 
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General:
  • Date: May 25th 2014
  • Practice 1: Thursday @ 12:00 PM Pacific | 3:00 PM Eastern | 19:00 PM GMT
  • Practice 2: Friday @ 12:00 PM Pacific | 3:00 PM Eastern | 19:00 PM GMT
  • Knockout Qualifying: Saturday @ 3:00 PM Pacific | 6:00 PM Eastern | 22:00 PM GMT
  • Feature Race: Sunday @ 12:00 PM Pacific | 3:00 PM Eastern | 19:00 PM GMT
  • Cars: Red Bull X2014 Standard
  • Tracks: Côte d'Azur
  • Distance: Will match the real FIA Grand Prix distance
  • Qualification: Live knockout qualifying (pre-qualification available for those unable to attend)
Basic Settings
  • Room Mode: PQR = Practice, Qualify and Race
  • Room Privacy: Friends only
Room Settings
  • Room comment: GTP_WRS F3[D3] Monaco GP
  • Room type: Race for Real
  • Fixed Room Host: No
  • Max Number of Participants: 16 per lounge
  • Race Quality: Standard
  • Voice Chat Quality: Standard
  • Lounge Limits:
    • One spot is reserved in room 1 for the broadcaster (oink) who will observe the race and manage a live feed on YouTube.
    • 00-17: The top 15 qualifiers will race in room 1 and any remaining drivers will be on "stand by" and fill in for absent drivers or last minute cancellations.
    • 18-23: The top 12 qualifiers will race in room 1 and the remaining drivers (6-11) in room 2.
    • 24-26: The top 13 qualifiers will race in room 1 and the remaining drivers (11-13) in room 2.
    • 27-28: The top 14 qualifiers will race in room 1 and the remaining drivers (13-14) in room 2.
    • 29-31: The top 15 qualifiers will race in room 1 and the remaining drivers (14-16) in room 2.
Course Settings
  • Course: Côte d'Azur
  • Laps: 78 + 1 Formation Lap
  • Weather: None
  • Surface Water at Race Start: 0%
  • Time: N/A
  • Time Progression: N/A
Race Settings
  • Hold Races Automatically: Disabled
  • Start Type: F1 Style Formation Lap w/ Standing Start
  • Grid Order: Fastest First
  • Boost: Off
  • Penalty: Off
  • Tyre Wear/ Fuel Consumption: Normal
  • Grip Reduction on Wet Track/Track Edge: Real
  • Minimum Number of Pit Stops: 0
  • Require Tire Type Change: Off
  • Race Finish Delay: 180 Seconds
  • Visible Damage: Off
  • Mechanical Damage: Light
  • Slipstream Strength: Real
  • Pits: Unrestricted
Car Selection Method
  • Make: Gran Turismo
  • Model: Red Bull X2014 Standard
  • Car Selection Method: Garage
  • Car Filters: Filter by Make -> Manufacturers -> Gran Turismo
  • PP Limit: 899 PP
  • Max Power Limit: 650 HP (PL=77.6%)
  • Minimum Weight: 560 kg
  • Drivetrain: MR
  • Tires: Comfort Soft (C3) (Front and Rear)
  • Nitrous: N/A
  • Vehicle Tuning: Allowed
  • Tuning: The following tuning parts and car maintenance Are Allowed:
    • Oil Change
    • Fully Customizable Suspension
    • Racing Brakes
    • Fully Customizable Transmission
    • Fully Customizable Mechanical LSD
    • Downforce
    • Body Rigidity (Improve And Restore)
    • Engine Overhaul
    • Chassis Reinforcement
  • Tuning: The following tuning parts and car maintenance Not Allowed:
    • Ballast Adjustment
  • Other tuning, custom parts or weight reduction are not allowed. We can verify these things from the replays.
  • Base Tune:
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Knockout Qualification

Saturday's one-hour qualifying event is split into three sessions with a 5 minute break between each session to reset times:
  • Q1: 18 minute elimination round where the slowest drivers are knocked out and fill the last positions on the starting grid.
  • Q2: 15 minute elimination round where the slowest drivers are knocked out and fill the middle positions on the starting grid.
  • Q3: 12 minute shootout to determine pole position and the starting order for the top places on the starting grid.
  • The number of drivers that advance in each round is specified in the following table:
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Qualification Details:
  • Lobby mode: The qualification sessions will be held in the Time Trial mode. This will place the cars on the track in random order. It is the responsibility of the drivers to find a piece of clean air or to try and slipstream. You should not impede another driver on a fast lap, while you are on an outlap or an inlap.
  • Pits: In all rounds the pits are open for tire changes.
  • Laps: In all rounds drivers can run as many laps as they wish. Any lap started prior to the time cutoff is legal.
  • Cutoffs: The number of drivers that are eliminated in each round will depend on the total number of drivers participating in knockout qualifying. The cutoffs will be announced an hour prior to qualifying.
  • Lounge Limits: In the event that more than 16 drivers are registered for qualification, lounges will be split evenly for Q1 at the discretion of the stewards and the number of advancing drivers will be adjusted so that there are no more than 14 drivers for Q2. The lobbies will then merge for the remaining two rounds. A steward will post instructions to this thread, including which room drivers should report to, at least an hour before qualification.
  • Disconnects: If a driver DCs during qualification he/she is allowed to rejoin the lounge. If a steward has recorded their fast lap prior to the DC the lap will count otherwise only laps run after returning to the lounge and prior to the end of the session will count.
  • Interference: If a driver is deemed by the stewards to have stopped unnecessarily on the circuit or impeded another driver during qualifying, his times may be cancelled and the driver will be placed at the back of the grid for the race start. The stewards decisions are final. Should a driver spin, run off track, or lose control of his car he must wait for a clear opening in the track to return. If a driver is in a position where he is slower than the car behind him for any reason he must slow and yield his line so that the approaching driver is not held up. Drivers that interfere with another drivers' hot lap may incur a grid placement penalty at the discretion of the stewards.
Alternate Pre-Qualification:
  • Any driver that cannot participate in the live qualification session for any reason must contact a steward (or post to this thread) and arrange for a private qualification session.
  • All private qualifying sessions are observed and will last 5 laps (1 out lap, 3 hot laps, 1 cool down lap).
  • The driver's best "clean" hot lap will become his qualification time. If no "clean" laps are run, the drivers best "dirty" lap will be used, but with 1 second penalty added per wall tap and/or 2 seconds for a chicane cut or dirty section which has the potential to gain the driver time.
  • Any driver that qualifies in this manner can start no higher than drivers that advance to Q3 during knockout qualification.
  • Pre-qualification is a one shot deal and once you start your qualification race you are committed. In the case of a DC you must return to the lounge ASAP and run any laps you had not started during the initial session.
  • Once you run pre-qualification your time is final and you cannot run the live session on Saturday.
  • Pre-qualification lap times will not / should not be revealed until after the live qualification on Saturday.
  • Drivers that have not qualified prior to the start of the live qualification will not be allowed to race without prior steward approval.
  • The following is a list of approved qualification stewards:
    • Allibubba99
    • AspecBob
    • ealirendur
    • EDK
    • Gravitron
    • hasslemoff
    • jtv90069
    • MadMax86
    • oink83
    • GTPorsche
    • PASM
    • Racingworld68
    • Sjaak
    • Speedy6543
    • WRP001
Pace & Control Requirements:
  • Any driver that qualifies slower than the specific time set by the stewards for each track (~10 seconds off pace) may be excluded from the race.
  • Any driver that displays a lack of consistent car control during final practice or qualification may be excluded from the race.
  • The decision of the stewards in this matter is final.
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Formula One Style Formation Lap and Standing Start
  • Once the starting order is confirmed by the steward all drivers should enter the pits.
  • When all drivers are in the pits, the steward will call the drivers one at a time onto the track and the drivers will line up in single file behind the pole sitter in order to stage the grid.
  • Once all drivers are in their proper start positions the steward will start the race countdown timer.
  • After the system places you on the grid for the start, drivers will line up single file and proceed with the formation lap.
  • At no time should the pacing car exceed 200 kph and all turns will be taken at reasonable speeds.
  • Weaving or other tire warming procedures ARE allowed during the formation lap - please be careful.
  • Following the exit of the final corner all drivers will proceed to their appropriate grid starting marker.
  • The race clock in the top right corner of the screen will then be utilized for timing the race start.
  • At exactly 3 minutes (3:00.000) on the clock the race starts.
  • If there is a problem staging the grid any driver can delay the start by one minute, but must do so by chat announcement at least 15 seconds prior to the start time.
  • Should any driver mistakenly start prior to the designated mark they must lift immediately so as to not gain position from the error prior to turn 1.
  • Be cautious and courteous in the first turn. Dive bombing will be penalized and will not be tolerated. These are tricky cars and turn 1 is tough period. Error on the side of caution and use runoff areas if available and necessary to avoid contact, but do not use it to gain positions.
  • Please take the time to practice this start procedure at least once in a practice session.
The following video demonstrates the Formation Lap and Standing Start procedure:
@ Spa - Courtesy GTP_Twissy



Track Boundary Guidelines

Drivers are expected to do their best to stay within track boundaries per the OLR. Mistakes happens over the course of a long race and the random off or two will be overlooked in most instances, but if a pattern of boundary abuse is observed penalties will be handed out which include 15 seconds for a "minor" pattern of abuse, 30 seconds for a "substantial" pattern of abuse, and a DQ for "complete disregard" of track boundaries. In cases where penalties may not impact the driver (e.g. DC), the penalty may be carried over to the next event and may be applied as a 5 (minor) or 10 (major) grid spot penalty.

It's up to the admins' discretion exactly what qualifies as "minor", "substantial" or "complete disregard". Going outside the rumble by a centimeter isn't as serious as a car length wide excursions into the run off area. Factors such as dirty air and traffic also come into play. If you find yourself going wide then the next lap you're expected to slow down a bit more to make sure you stay within boundaries. If you make the same mistake multiple times and you want to avoid a penalty you can always self-penalize during the race by lifting for a very brief period upon returning to the track. Continuing to hammer the throttle after repeated boundary overruns may very well end with a post race penalty.

Specifics:
  • Contact with walls should be avoided. Wall riding/bouncing to gain time will be penalized and/or can result in disqualification.
  • Rumble/ripple strips are part of the track.
  • Runoff areas are not part of the track including green painted concrete.
  • Keep 2 wheels on or above the track in order to be considered within boundaries.
  • Specific track boundaries may be posted per event and may overrule the above.
Infractions and Penalties
  • The first step post race after an incident should be to contact other drivers involved in an incident via PM and try to come to some sort of understanding on all drivers point of view and if possible determine and agree who was at fault. If drivers come to an agreement and the results are not significantly impacted by the incident then no further action is necessary. If the incident was significant then follow up this driver to driver discussion with a report and review of the incident to an admin for penalty assessment.
  • If neither driver can agree as to who is at fault for an incident or the severity then escalate that incident to an admin via PM.
  • Be sure to include as many details as possible and an exact lap number and race time with the incident report. Admins will not waste time searching for the incident and will ignore any reports that do not specify the time of occurrence.
  • Admins/Steward will review and discuss all incidents before coming to a decision. If further detail is needed, drivers will be contacted via PM. Once a decision is reached by the incident review team there is no appeal process and the penalties are final.
  • Penalties could include loss of positions. There is no fixed formula for penalties, but the context and severity of the incident is taken into account.
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(tables will auto update approximately every 30 minutes)

In the event of a field of 13-16 drivers we will disable mics and race with one grid. With 17+ we will split the grid (SEE Lounge Splits BELOW).



Eligibility

This WRS-Online event hosted by 3D3 Racing is open to GTP_Registered members only. If you are not currently on the registry run the GTP_Registry qualifier and join now!

Registration Instructions

The following must be performed by every driver for every event:
  • Click the registration button above, fill-in and submit the online registration form (be sure to use the PSN that's listed in the registry)
  • Leave a quick note in this thread to let us know you've registered and any other comments.
The following must be performed only one time per driver (not per event):
  • Submit the 3D3 Racing Online Driver Database Entry Form. Your information will need to be verified before you are added to the db and before your ID will appear in the registered driver table above. You can view the official driver database here.
Registration Changes

If you want to change your time slot, add a time slot or update your color choices just click on the registration link and fill out the form again and submit with new values. Your last entry will override any previous entries.

Cancellations

If for some reason, after you register for the event, you are unable to attend please click the registration button above and complete the form again selecting "cancel" as your status. Please also post a note in this thread as the table above can take some time to update.

Delaying or Restarting Race Start

Once the race countdown timer has started, the race will only be restarted in these cases:
  • Multiple drivers report a black screen/hang, instead of the 3-2-1 countdown.
  • One or more drivers get disconnected before race-pace has begun ("GO" for grid-starts, end of formation lap for rolling starts).
  • Steward realizes there is a condition that would lead to an unfair or poor race experience.
Once the race countdown timer has started, the race will explicitly NOT be restarted for:
  • Latecomers, even if you've registered
  • Driver realizes he picked the wrong car parts (ie, tires) or driving options (ie, Auto tranny)
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To view splits from your best lap, exit track and go to watch race and view the timing screen. *It will display your best lap (from the last session on track). *Your times will be cleared after you re-enter the pits.


Submission Form


View Raw Logs Here
(for splits and notes)

Note: You are welcome to submit a practice lap if you are not taking part in the race as long as you are listed in the 3D3 Driver Database and the lap is run in an online lounge under proper event regulations.

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Going to give this car a few laps to see if I would feel comfortable enough to run this race. I noticed the tire specs are comfort softs, anxious to see how this car drives on those tires.
 
Though I'm sure I would embarrass myself, I cannot even attempt this event. I will be in Montreal running through the mud!:cool:
 
I ran about 30 laps the other day, and the car is perfect on Comfort Softs. The hardest part of the track for me was the Grand Hotel Hairpin. I found it really difficult to turn the wheel quickly enough to have even a decent exit.

You almost need something with less than a 900 deg turning radius. I have read about doing it thru button sequences on a G27, but it has never worked for me.
 
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I am signing up for this one! Already arranging "Me time" in the living room!!!!
 
YAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYA!!!!!!

Are you signing up for this one Mohit? I know this is right up your alley! :P

How is everybody getting on with testing? I can host a practice session tonight if anyone is around :)
 
I'll be testing/practising tonight. My setup is quite ready.

Have to say this car is fast - maybe too fast. Still too much power for F3?
 
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Are you signing up for this one Mohit? I know this is right up your alley! :P

How is everybody getting on with testing? I can host a practice session tonight if anyone is around :)

I wanted to see how my Sunday was going to pan out. I'm signing up as confirmed but just 75% sure right now.
 
A little advertising.... I put up on the main Snail Thread...hope that's ok:scared:


on another subject as some of you know I drive in the GTP_WRS weekly races. Some of their European members are putting on a Live Feed Special Race that completely mimics the Monaco F1 weekend ( Thurs practice Fri knockout qualifying, Sunday race ) with detuned but tunable GTF1 cars. They also provide a basic setup for those of us posing as another Monaco chicane.
If interested here is the addy.
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threa...prix-of-monaco-may-22-25.307766/#post-9672359

Right I know I don't know how to do the link here thing. This will have to do.

Oops...link is right but go to top of page 1


I assumed that we can handle some new members quickly...am I right

@aliengamer25
 
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@Nail-27 It's... possible they'll do a special midweek new drivers post, find a WRS admin (Gravitron, Vagabond, EDK et cetera) who's online, and message them to ask. I think the final decision will rest with Vaxen, though, but I wouldn't disturb him on a Monday evening.
 
Yes we can get new folks in shortly after they submit their qualifiers, for online races. The time trials take a little longer as its only done on Monday nights.
 
I am going to practice this week on my own, but probably can not do the practice sessions on either day as I will be at my daughter's college graduation ceremonies ( I am getting old) . Perhaps some of the NA drivers can get together later in the day on Thurs or Fri as the practice sessions are during work hours in the US. I will register later today as work blocks google docs for some reason. I have run about 30 laps, car seems to handle ok stock, anyone that wants to share their tunes feel free.

Edit, I noticed that Bart did post his tune.
 
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I plan to be opening a practice room late this evening after karate class around 10PM Central

Al
 
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