GTP_WRS Week 141 : Hatching Alfas

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  1. EDK

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    GT6 Week 141 : Hatching Alfas

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    Hotlap Event in Arcade Mode Time Trial

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    Alfa Romeo 155 2.5 V6 TI '93

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    Brands Hatch Grand Prix Circuit '80s


    :: Only Open to Qualified GTP_Registered Members ::

    :: Members are not obligated to take part ::



    Race Details:
    • Mode: Arcade Mode > Single Player > Time Trial
    • Track: World Circuits > Brands Hatch Grand Prix Circuit '80s
    • Car Type: Garage/Favorites Car
    • Make: IT > Alfa Romeo
    • Model: 155 2.5 V6 TI '93
    • Power: 433 bhp (after oil change)
    • Weight: 1,010 kg
    • PP: 532
    Driving Options:
    • Transmission: Auto or Manual
    • Tires: Sport Soft (Front)/Sports Medium (Rear)
    • Driving Line | Traction Control | ASM | ABS: Optional
    • Brake Balance: Adjustment Allowed
    • Active Steering | Skid Recovery Force: Prohibited
    • Tuning: Torque Split and Brake Balance Adjustments Allowed. No Other Adjustments Allowed.
    • Custom Paint and Wheels Allowed
    • In-Race RA Functions: Allowed As Available. Brake Balance changes Allowed.

    Course Settings:
    • Time: Optional
    • Time Progression: Optional
    • Weather: 0/0
    • Grip Reduction on Track Edge: Real

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    Race Specifics:
    • The event MUST be run using your registered account
    • The use of the clutch that is found on the G25, G27, and other high end racing wheels is strictly prohibited.
    • Use of the Handbrake is Prohibited.
    • No Contact with walls or other objects. Any contact with walls, no matter how minor, will result in a DQ.
    • Tarmac and red and white rumble strips are track. The Brown stuff behind the rumbles in some corners is NOT track.
    • If you have boundary questions, post a picture and ask, don't risk being DQ'd over track boundaries. I am not going to take 67 photos to show you what you can and can't do.

    Steward's Comments:
    This car is one my my favorites in the GT series, we used it for the WRS 9th anniversary combo on GT5. @mr_lab_rat came up with this tire split, and it works really well. Don't be scared off by race car on road tires, the car turns nicely and you have torque tuning to have it handle the way you want it to. This is also a track layout we've not used yet on GT6, although it's very similar to the BMW qualifier layout.

    Viewing your Time Splits:

    • You need to make sure you save the 'Save Best Lap Replay' (ghost replay), not the 'Save Replay' (See pic below)
    • To view your best lap replay, go to 'My Home' and watch the replay from there using the 'Gallery' option.
    • Live timing monitor does not work properly, so we have to use a small trick to view splits.
    • While viewing your Replay, pause the lap by hitting start, before the end of the first sector.
    • While keeping the replay paused, advance the replay, using the forward arrow on the replay HUD. This will advance the replay to the end of the first sector. That's your T1 split, write it down.
    • Advance the replay again. That will show the lap to date time on the screen, this is your first and second sector time, added together.
    • To post your T1 Splits, simply post the lap to date times that are shown in the middle of the screen. Do not try to calculate the actual T2 split time, the Fetchbot will do that for you.

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    (Best Lap Replay Icon)

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    Standard Clean OLR Rules:
    • At Least 2 Tires must be in contact with track at all times.

      • In situations where contact with the track is not possible because tires are airborne (above the ground), then the run is only legal if at least two tires in-line would have made contact with the track if the car were not airborne.
      • If track contact cannot be 100% determined, then consider it dirty.
    • Rumble/ripple strips are part of the track.
    • No contact with walls or objects, visible or invisible
    • If you're not 100% sure that your lap is clean, then consider it dirty
    • No hybrids
    • No cheating of any kind,these are relaxed races and we are experienced racers, we know what times can be done,and we can read your mind.We will know.
    • Nothing that goes against the spirit of the rules

    Thread rules:

    The following information cannot be discussed in this thread (they can, however, be discussed on MSN or via other private conversation methods):

    • Total Lap Time
    • Any information which can be used to infer your total laptime

    The following information can be discussed in this thread :

    • The first 4 splits: T1, T2, T3 & T4 times
    • Any settings discussion
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    Submission:

    All submissions must be sent by PM (Subject title: GTP_WRS Week 141 Submission ) to (WRSFetchbot):

    • Then attach your 'Best Lap'/'Ghost' replay in zip file form. Everyone submits a replay instead of listing a lap time.
    • You will need to put something in the message body in order to begin a conversation. It doesn't matter what you put, it can even be 1 letter or symbol. Nobody but the Fetchbot is going to see it, so it's sort of pointless, anyhow.
    • You will get an automated response within 15min, letting you know whether your submission was accepted, or if you had an error.
    • If you have an error, don't panic. Just review the instructions for submission and submit again. If you are having trouble and cannot figure it out, please post your question in the race thread.
    • Users can ask the bot for the current submitted time by sending a message with the Subject: "GTP_WRS Week XX Get Entry" and any text in the body.
    • Users can delete their submitted time by sending a message with the Subject: "GTP_WRS Week XX Remove Entry" and any text in the body.
    • If you want to submit multiple times in the week that is still not a problem. Just reply to the conversation with your new time and new replay. Fetchy always uses the last submitted time as the final one.
    • See this screenshot as an example on how to submit:
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    • The deadline is Monday, October 3rd 11:59pm GMT
    • If you are unsure of the deadline try this site

    Why Use GMT?:

    GMT is World Time and the basis of every world time zone which sets the time of day and is at the centre of the time zone map. GMT sets current time or official time around the globe. Most time changes are measured by GMT. Although GMT has been replaced by atomic time (UTC) it is still widely regarded as the correct time for every international time zone.

    Replay Checking:
    • Everyone is required to submit a replay for verification. This happens when you submit to the Fetchbot, and the replays will be visible in the leaderboard, once we've reached the event deadline
    • Participants will be expected to check each others' replays for cleanliness, for replays marked in the Results thread as (Check Needed)
    • Video replays are not accepted as a form of verification
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    Good luck, :gtpflag:
    OLR Team
     
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  2. SRT DK Racing

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    Feeling a little stupid that I have too ask about what torgue split excactly is , guess it`s something I probaly should know or is it :nervous:
     
  3. roamer2629

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    Torque split allows you to adjust how power is distributed between front and back wheels in 4WD cars. You'll find the settings in the drivetrain part of the settings menu. This one is 30:70 stock.
     
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  4. Ph1sh

    Ph1sh Premium

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    It's the ratio in your drivetrain. Lol

    Tre^d :lol:


    Ran a few laps with this combo. It's going to be a lot of fun!! :cheers:
     
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  5. SRT DK Racing

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    In my game it`s called Front/Rear Torgue Distribution under Torgue-distributing centre differential , so I cant help thinkng why not call it what`s its called in the game , then no one can have doubt about what it is :idea: and yes I kinda knew before I asked , but just wanted too remove any doubt so I didnt waste time running laps with the wrong settings :censored: :cheers:
     
  6. EDK

    EDK Moderator

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    I don't have every version of the game and torque split is the first thing mine says.

    But whatever. :rolleyes:
     
  7. suprajef

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    Starting off, stock settings

    17.958
    29.724
    42.674
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  8. SRT DK Racing

    SRT DK Racing

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    Then you did what you can :) just weird that it says too different things in the same language :) I will just ask then when iam in "doubt" :)
     
  9. DeuxMilles

    DeuxMilles

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    Hi,

    yet another great combo, I saw this car racing in the nineties on different tracks. Love the brand, my first car was a Alfasud :tup:

    Hope this one is going better than the desaster of last week :banghead:

    Edit: oooops :D

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    keep racing,
    D.
     
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  10. wahthewalrus

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    First attempt at one of these in a ling while. Here we go, I guess.

    18.267
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  11. Mr P

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    Never run this version of the track before now :tup: Here's my best lap so far to get me on the board...

    18.001
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    Seen some 17.8's and 29.4's so loads left all over the place and it's a complete opposite to last weeks car, in the R390 it was gear up early.. this week it's stay in lesser gears for more speed ;)

    Sweet drive :cheers:
     
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  12. roamer2629

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    First splits, plenty of tidying up to do. Lovely combo if I may so :mischievous:
    17.966
    29.850
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  13. Mr P

    Mr P

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    I keep thinking I'm on the other version and stuffing up key bends :p haha

    17.940
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    I expect no less than 1 second to come off that T4 by weeks end... but more likely than not it will be someone else :D
     
  14. Mr P

    Mr P

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    .2 faster at the line but still driving it like a kid on a tricycle [​IMG]
     
  15. StanNz

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    Liking this combo.
    First splits
    18.767
    30.650
    43.750
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  16. Mr P

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  17. DeuxMilles

    DeuxMilles

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    Hi,

    same s*** as always. Made a few laps yesterday with the satisfying result

    18.300
    30.034
    43.334
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    Afterwards I started playin' around with the settings, breaking points and the driving line. From this point the laptimes are going down, atm I'm miles away from the above splits, I cant't reproduce them.

    Maybe trying again at the end of the week.

    D.
     
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  18. Mr P

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    Don't give up Duex keep at it and try these adjustments... Wheel feedback 7/7 Brakes 6/6 Torque 40/60 that's what I'm using :tup:
     
  19. DeuxMilles

    DeuxMilles

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    Hi,

    no, I don't have in mind to give up, don't worry :)

    I just need a short break, I will try your settings (thanks for 'em!) later this week.

    D.
     
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  20. 8l23ub

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    Lured me into it again but 'all' you guys arer tooooo fast :scared:
    Gonna have to put some serious work in

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  21. GTP_randy

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    First time I've driven this car,wish I had found it sooner.
    50:50 torque split caused to much understeer for my liking. Running 40:60 and 5/5 bb.Will try a little lower torque setting next session:tup:

    After 320 km's
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    Have had several .5 t4's but always mess up that last turn.
     
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  22. suprajef

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    Practice room up in the WRS lobby
     
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  23. mistersafeway

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    Settings are 5/6 and 32/68.
     
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  24. Thematic

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    Early, on 4-wheel whatever.

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  25. StanNz

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    Latest splits. More time to be gained definitely on t1.
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  26. Mr P

    Mr P

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    Seen a couple of 17.7's and 29.3's but didn't know what to do with them :dunce: so there's still .2 left for me with luck
     
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  27. 8l23ub

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    18.059
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    bb 5/5
    torque split 39.61

    Had some 17's in t1 and fluffed every single one at the next turn :mad:
     
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  28. 8l23ub

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  29. DGiant2000

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    What a great combo!! Feeling much better and glad to get back to this one, I absolutely love this car!!! Like Mr P, I've never really driven this track before but I've driven the modern layout loads and its still catching me out :lol: Some spits from me using a 60/40 split and 5/4 brake balance

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  30. Thematic

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    Last corner didn't belong at all.
     
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