GTP_WRS Week 9 : Arigatou Mr Stephenson

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  1. Argon

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    GTSport Week 9 : Arigatou Mr Stephenson

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    Hotlap Event in Arcade Mode Time Trial

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    McLaren 650s Gr.4

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    Suzuka Circuit

    :: Open to All GTPlanet Registry Members ::

    :: Members are not obligated to take part ::

    Overview (How Does This Work?):
    • You must be part of our registry to participate
    • These are Time Trial Events, we have Online Races here
    • Set the game up according to the event, car and track details below
    • Save Your BEST LAP replay before exiting your session
    • Be sure and run at least 10 extra seconds after setting your fast lap. If you exit right away, your time stamp may not show up in your replay.
    • Report your split times in here, so you can compare your pace to other racers, without revealing the full lap time
    • Our leaderboard shows how you stack up during the week, before the deadline
    • Submit your lap via PM to our Fetchbot, before the event deadline
    • On deadline day, we will publish the results in our leaderboard and in a thread in this section
    • Identified replays will be checked by your fellow participants to be sure you meet the event regulations

    Race Details:
    • Mode: Arcade Mode > Time Trial
    • Track: Suzuka Circuit
    • Car Type: Garage Car
    • Make: McLaren
    • Model: 650s Gr.4
    • Max Power HP: 399 (Stock)
    • Weight: 2,866 lbs / 1,300 kg (stock)
    Driving Options:
    • Transmission: Auto or Manual
    • Tires: Racing Hard (front and rear)
    • Driving Line, Cones, Markers: Optional
    • Traction Control | ASM | ABS: Optional
    • Brake Balance: Optional
    • Countersteering Assist: Prohibited
    • Tuning: Some Tuning Allowed: Power and weight are to be stock. You may adjust Suspension, Aerodynamics, LSD and Transmission only
    • In-Race Multi-Function Display (MFD) Functions: Optional
    • Custom Wheels: Allowed
    • Paint and Racing #: Livery editor allowed
    Course Settings:
    • Time: Optional

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    Standard Clean OLR Rules (These Apply to ALL Events):
    • The event MUST be run using your registered PSN account.
    • The use of the clutch is strictly prohibited.
    • Use of the Handbrake is Prohibited.
    • No Contact with walls or other objects. Any contact with walls, no matter how minor, will result in a DQ.
    • At Least 2 Tires must be in contact with track at all times (See image below).
      • In situations where contact with the track is not possible because tires are airborne (above the ground), then the run is only legal if at least two tires in-line would have made contact with the track if the car were not airborne.
      • If track contact cannot be 100% determined, then consider it dirty.
    • Rumble/ripple strips are part of the track.
    • No contact with walls or objects, visible or invisible
    • If you're not 100% sure that your lap is clean, then consider it dirty
    • No hybrids
    • No cheating of any kind,these are relaxed races and we are experienced racers, we know what times can be done,and we can read your mind. We will know.
    • Nothing that goes against the spirit of the rules.

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    Race Specifics (Rules for This Specific Event):
    • Red and White Rumble Strips and Tarmac are Track Surface. No other surfaces are track
    • White lines denote track boundary except where backed by rumble strips
    • Concrete and tarmac painted green is not track

    Steward's Comments:

    The perfect storm in the shape of a wonderfully balanced car and an iconic track, does it get any better than this? This track is another one of those that I have never mastered due to it's deceptive difficulty that requires almost every driving technique to get the best out of it but sets the grin wide when it all comes together.

    Saving Replays, Viewing sector times and Submissions:
    • You need to make sure you use the 'Save Best Lap Replay' (ghost replay), not the 'Save Replay' (See pic below)
    • Before saving your replay ensure that you continue running after completing your fast lap until at least the end of first sector. This will ensure you have a complete replay.
    • To view your best lap replay, go to 'My Library' and watch the replay from there using the 'Replays' option.
    • While viewing your Replay, enter the live timing screen to view your sector splits. You will need to do this after your car has passed the sector markers to see it listed.
    • Simply post the splits that are shown in the live timing screen, and our Fetchbot will parse them and add them together for your total sector time.
    • When saving your fastest lap replay please ensure that you watch the replay to the end and that it displays your full lap time. Any replays submitted that do not show the posted lap time will result in a DQ.
    • Remember - When you submit your time you're also declaring that your run is 100% clean. We request replays for the purpose of verifying to all those concerned that the drivers claim is correct, which in turn safeguards the integrity of the driver, and just as importantly, the WRS. The golden rule is to check your replay before submission. If you’re still unsure, check it again, ask for a second opinion and if you’re still undecided, run the lap again.

    (Best Lap Replay Save)

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    Thread rules:

    The following information cannot be discussed in this thread (they can, however, be discussed on Skype or via other private IM service.):
    • Total Lap Time
    • Any information which can be used to infer your total laptime
    • If you choose to Share your Best-Lap Replay via GT Sport before the deadline, expect the full lap time to be public, regardless of whether you've only shared with Friends or Public.
    The following information can be discussed in this thread :
    • The first 3 sectors: T1, T2 and T3 times
    • Any settings discussion

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    Submission:

    All submissions must be sent by PM (Subject title: GTP_WRS Week 9 Submission ) to (WRSFetchbot):
    • Please submit your FULL LAP TIME in the following format on a single line:
      X:XX.XXX
      (Example-) 1:10.100
    • You will get an automated response within 15min, letting you know whether your submission was accepted, or if you had an error.
    • For those of you who were used to submitting replays on GT6, we no longer have the ability to export the files.
    • If you have an error, don't panic. Just review the instructions for submission and submit again. If you are having trouble and cannot figure it out, please post your question in the race thread.
    • Users can ask the bot for the current submitted time by sending a message with the Subject: "GTP_WRS Week XX Get Entry" and any text in the body.
    • Users can delete their submitted time by sending a message with the Subject: "GTP_WRS Week XX Remove Entry" and any text in the body.
    • If you want to submit multiple times in the week that is still not a problem. Just reply to the conversation with your new time. Fetchy always uses the last submitted time as the final one.
    • The deadline is Monday, January 29th 2018 11:59pm GMT
    • If you are unsure of the deadline try this site
    Why Use GMT?:
    GMT is World Time and the basis of every world time zone which sets the time of day and is at the centre of the time zone map. GMT sets current time or official time around the globe. Most time changes are measured by GMT. Although GMT has been replaced by atomic time (UTC) it is still widely regarded as the correct time for every international time zone.

    Replay Checking:
    • Division winners and overperformers will be required to submit a replay via GT Sport Share function for verification AFTER Unofficial Results have been posted.
    • Participants will be expected to check each others' replays for cleanliness, for replays marked in the Results thread as (Check Needed)
    • Video/Youtube/Twitch replays are not accepted as a form of verification

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    Good luck, :gtplanet:
    OLR Team
     
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  2. EDK

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    We arrived at this combo in the Friday beer room. Although the BOP makes the car less than competitive in sport mode, I think it's one of the best driving Gr.4 cars on the game.

    We were all running with some very basic adjustments to aero, LSD and toe. While we're allowing more tuning than that, it's a very approachable combo that does not require a lot of tuning to get in the groove with this car.

    EDIT: And coming off that that Corvette, we thought you guys might like to have some grip. ;)
     
  3. munch2112

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    Love the sound of this combo! Have been waiting for a GR4 at wisher Suzuka or Interlagos!

    Have a good week everyone :cheers:
     
  4. EDK

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    BTW, some good baseline settings would be -

    Aero 250/500
    Toe zero'd out front and rear.
    LSD 10/20/10

    Transmission change from stock to fully custom. Without adjustments, it was fast. And a close ratio gearbox seemed to make the car slower, I will have to mess with it some more.

    I should have a good initial complete tune later today.
     
  5. munch2112

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    First lap, fully stock, just so I can take a picture of the leaderboard of me winning! :lol:

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  6. Mr P

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    Gotta say that Livery looks sweet as ....!! :tup:

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    Very nice :cheers:
     
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  7. Argon

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    Thanks Ron, the livery is now up on the GT Sport server for all to grab, tags 'petrohead' , '650s', 'mclaren'
     
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  8. alexamenos

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    I know what I'll be doing this afternoon.
     
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  9. Fastas

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    :drool: And :drool: and :drool:.

    Looking forward to getting going on this one!
     
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  10. Argon

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    Some early splits on the recommended settings from @EDK that feel very good, definitely don't change the gearbox unless you want to fiddle with the ratio's because it really slows the car down

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  11. munch2112

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    Improvement with @EDK early tune.

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    Have seen better across the board, lots of space for improvement this week when I get chance!

    Great combo, have fun!
     
  12. Argon

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    Closing shot for tonight on this one

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  13. Iceman

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    50 miles on the clock, sorry Stingray, you're staying in the garage for good! Beautiful combo :drool:

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  14. munch2112

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  15. DGiant2000

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    Suzuka :D :D :D

    Thanks guys :cheers:
     
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  16. KRDracing

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    Awesome combo, but it has to wait...

    Many more laps to do in the '69 Vette ;)
     
  17. BigDawg_1281

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    Ahhh I like this one. Suzuka is such a fun track! My first splits after around 6 or 7 laps...

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  18. Renrag39

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    Enjoying this after the balancing act of last week :D
     
  19. Iceman

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    Code:
    Tune so far, stock suspension except:
    Camber: 1.5 / 3.0
    toe out: .15 out / .20 in
    Downforce: 250 / 550
    LSD 10 / 50 / 10
    
    Top speed: 168
    Final: 3.3
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    Only utilizing 6 gears, my tweaking so far was aimed towards using a single gear for the esses (3rd) and timing the shift to 4th near the apex of the corner just after T1 which serves the same purpose as a slight throttle lift. The sweet spot for shifting seems to be around 8.3k rpm.
     
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  20. DigitalBaka

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    This car is definitely fantastic right out of the box. I'm almost afraid to touch any of the settings at all! It was much better in sport mode at the being of the game and seems to have had a kick in the nuts since then unfortunately.

    My usual orange livery is out there as well if anyone wants it....#dbp.

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  21. racer_xis

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    How do you discover the sweet spot for everycar? I always copy the fastest guys but I would like to understand how do you do that
     
  22. BigDawg_1281

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    10.1 in T2??? Oh my, I suck!
     
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  23. Iceman

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    I just use my ghost as a comparison normally. Your start speed should be fairly similar lap to lap making it pretty easy to experiment with shift points as long as you need to change gears before the first turn. In this case you'll be shifting 1 to 2 times after the start/finish and the long straight at Suzuka makes it easy to discern the differences in varying the shift point.
     
  24. Iceman

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    Whoops, forgot to turn off the nitrous...

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  25. _r_p_m_

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    Quite alot of oversteer on turn in but an enjoyable car. Lots of traction on exit so you can really nail the throttle.

    First splits are

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    Plenty of time to come though
     
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  26. BigDawg_1281

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    I was thinking I am way out of my league. He must flying a jet with Slyder co-pilot.

    Good lap btw!
     
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  27. GTP_Nail

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    Much more better combo.....hope its not as addictive as the Mount Panorama one.....love these race car and race track combos!!!
     
  28. shoenboggie

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    Good car, great track...

    BB -2 TC 0

    9/10 ARB
    2.0/2.0 Camber
    -.25/.25 Toe
    10/20/15 Diff
    Full down force
    Upgraded transmission

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  29. alexamenos

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    @Iceman 's tune.

    :tup:
     
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  30. Maique

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    First try... still lots of room for improvement

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