GTP's Hot Version Touge Showdown

[Onboy123]

It doesn't snow where I am.

It's absolutely boiling over here.

 

[SolidSnake7735]

Is it safe to say I have the best FD tune for touge out there? Idk what Rob's T300 FD tune is like, but I'm aware mine is pretty good...

Please, correct me if I'm wrong.

I'm not talking about speed, but about feel.

 

[XDesperado67]

It's absolutely boiling over here.

Hey Tak do me a Christmas favor and regardless of who you and Mat decide goes in the final 4 run an all Outlaw grudge match with you at the wheel of my Dragon and Mat running Onboys Imprezza. Run team sunshine off the mountain please!

 

[Onboy123]

Is it safe to say I have the best FD tune for touge out there? Idk what Rob's T300 FD tune is like, but I'm aware mine is pretty good...

Please, correct me if I'm wrong.

Woah, big claims are really very big . Hmm…I'd try to be an arse and say bad things to you for being so smug, but since I've not even touched this car, I can't really open my trap.

If you really wanted to test that though, you'd need to do the Adrenaline test, i.e drive absolutely every tune for it for that purpose, as views between people will differ. Remember the 550PP FD you tuned for the JAC challenge that someone found utterly undriveable, but was rather nice for everyone else?

Actually, since it does seem to be rather interesting, you got a spare copy lying around? I'd like a go in it…

Hey Tak do me a Christmas favor and regardless of who you and Mat decide goes in the final 4 run an all Outlaw grudge match with you at the wheel of my Dragon and Mat running Onboys Imprezza. Run team sunshine off the mountain please!

I'd rather I do the driving, but since NAT 2 is as rare for my PS3 as rare as chicken's teeth, I'd have to leave it in the capable hands of…whoever was faster in the TTs. Come on, I need a head start with so little power.

 

[XDesperado67]

@Onboy well if Tak and Mat can't or won't run em we can settle things ourselves next time we both manage to get on GT5 and stay connected in my lounge for more than two minutes.

Giving you a head start just means the Dragon can use your brakes entering the first hairpin!

 

[Onboy123]

@Onboy well if Tak and Mat can't or won't run em we can settle things ourselves next time we both manage to get on GT5 and stay connected in my lounge for more than two minutes.

Giving you a head start just means the Dragon can use your brakes entering the first hairpin!

Hmm…I'll kill my PS3 with all the restarts I have to do to get NAT 2 back.

And then you get fouled and I win! Now, Mat, 1h30min is up, so…RESULT!

 

[Ridox2JZGTE]

Hmm…I'll kill my PS3 with all the restarts I have to do to get NAT 2 back.

And then you get fouled and I win! Now, Mat, 1h30min is up, so…RESULT!

Hey, Onboy, what's the MTU value on your PS3 network settings ? Don't set it to Auto, it's one of the main cause for NAT3. I used 1472 on mine, always in NAT2 Here is a guide to find optimal MTU value for your internet connection.

MTU PING TEST

 

[Onboy123]

It's not NAT 3, it's NAT Unknown.

 

[Mat123]

Now, Mat, 1h30min is up, so…RESULT!

IT'S JUST A DRAFT! I haven't even analyzed the replays yet. These are the things I remember.

ENTRY#1- TakumiFuji01’s Nissan SKYLINE GT-R V-spec II Nür (R34) '02

Takumi has made an appearance on the previous episode as the driver of the Amuse S2000 R1 that took the tie with robrabbitman’s RX-7. Today, not only is he a driver, but now joining alongside me as a tester! First off, his car is based on the incredible MCR R34 GT-R. Overall, it’s responsive and can hold up with the competition. There are some things to note, though, such as the cars cornering abilities and its acceleration. On hairpin corners, the car tends to go wide upon entry. It could just be my driving style though. Another thing, is the rotation. I find the rotation to be quite lacking, especially on the hairpins.

Pros:
-Very responsive
Cons:
-Slightly sluggish on acceleration
-Lacks rotation (Mat)
-Pushes upon entry (Mat)
My Score: 97/100
Tak's Score: 98/100
Average: 97.5​

ENTRY#2- SolidSnake7735’s Mazda RX-7 Spirit R Type A (FD) '02

Woo! A great car, once again from SolidSnake! I can never get enough of its cornering abilities! It has that great balance once you get the correct throttle/steering input. There were some times though when the car would slide due to my "heavy foot", but nonetheless, great car! Acceleration-wise, the Rotary won’t let you down!

Pros:
-Great cornering
-Quick acceleration
-Well balanced
-Very responsive
Cons:
-Needs more rotation (Tak)
My Score: 100/100
Tak's Score: 100/100
Average: 100​

ENTRY#3- Slender_Man’s Nissan GT-R ‘07

Slender here tunes alongside SolidSnake for TheCardBoardBox Tuning. Of course, they aim to please, with this R35 GT-R. This GT-R was built as a “What if” car if Nissan ever built an N1 version of the R35. Well, I sure am disappointed...
Not in the car of course! But for Nissan not making it come true. Anyways, acceleration-wise, “It’s so fast; it makes a dead man scream!” Sound familiar? Cornering performance, the car was set up very nicely. The balance, along with the rotation was spot-on! However, it did feel quite stiff from middle-out. There were some times where I just wanted to slow down due to it being so fast. Haha.

Pros:
-Tremendous acceleration
-Great cornering
-Greatly balanced
-Very responsive
-Not scary to drive (Tak) <---- I disagree. Haha
Cons:
-Slightly stiff (Mat)
My Score: 100/100
Tak's Score: 100/100
Average: 100​

ENTRY#4- robrabbitman&#8217;s Nissan GT-R &#8216;07

How I love rob&#8217;s cars! Most especially his RX-7, which reigned as one of Touge 300&#8217;s &#8220;Touge Monsters&#8221;. Unlike Slender&#8217;s R35, this car, to me, felt like it had a lot more personality and felt looser. This, came in handy especially through the hairpins. It's loose, but very easy to overcome. This car had almost the same amount of horsepower with Slender&#8217;s R35. Both cars ended up having very similar times. Also, I found the regular R35 to be quite dull to drive. Unlike this, which was quite exciting, especially on high speeds!

Pros:
-Tremendous acceleration
-Great cornering
-Greatly balanced
-Very responsive
Cons:
-May be a bit too loose, depending on driver skill
-Needs more rotation (Tak)
My Score: 100/100
Tak's Score: 100/100
Average: 100​

ENTRY#5- Ridox2JZGTE&#8217;s Nissan SKYLINE GT-R V-spec (R33) '97

Based on Hosaka Tuning&#8217;s R33, Ridox did quite a great job, considering having no weight reduction. The cornering was very unusual for a GT-R. With understeer being a typical problem, this car has the complete opposite. Oversteer. I, however, found that to make it quite exciting on the hairpins. The car didn&#8217;t do quite well, acceleration-wise.

Pros:
-Oversteer-happy (With the car being all-wheel drive, that&#8217;s when I realise its full potential.)
Cons:
-May be slightly sluggish, acceleration-wise
-Gear ratios could closer
My Score: 95/100
Tak's Score: 94/100
Average: 94.5​

ENTRY#6- HaoleHatingWRX&#8217;s Subaru IMPREZA WRX STI '07

I always have this odd feeling when driving a stock Impreza. Unlike this one, I really felt the car&#8217;s cornering feel and balance. Though there may be some understeer on entry, it felt really perfect in terms of handling. Aceleration-wise, it&#8217;s not too fast. Great car, overall!

Pros:
-Great cornering
-Great balance
-Responsive
Cons:
-Slightly sluggish, acceleration-wise
My Score: 98/100
Tak's Score: 98/100
Average: 98​

ENTRY#7- Onboy123&#8217;s Subaru IMPREZA Sedan WRX STi spec C '04

This car is one of the few with the weirdest characteristics. Maybe that&#8217;s just me, but meh. Anyway, could anyone believe that this car was the fastest among all the cars I tested? I can&#8217;t. Cornering, this car feels like it&#8217;s about to oversteer, but it tends to push in the process, with the two outer tires burning out. As I floor it, the car pushes even more, yet the rear still tries to get out. Though, once you get it to slide successfully, it&#8217;s the best feeling in the world! Acceleration-wise, though, it&#8217;s simply amazing! It makes me wish I saved the settings and applied it to my own Impreza.

Pros:
- Tremendous acceleration
-Odd, yet great, in terms of handling
-Responsive
-Very exciting
Cons:
-Hard to adapt to (Mat)
-Too much rotation (Tak)
My Score: 98/100
Tak's Score: 99/100
Average: 98.5/100​

ENTRY#8- XDesperado67&#8217;s Audi RS 6 Avant '08

Your mom spent all your college money on this thing, for sure! 955 Horsepower! With a weight nearing 1900 kilograms, that won&#8217;t be a problem! If the GT-R&#8217;s were raptors, this wagon would be the BlackBird! (Look it up. Hehe.) Anyways, cornering-wise, this car tends to understeer, especially on entry. It still surprises me that the fact is, this car can still rotate quite well through the hairpins! I haven't been able to bring out the full potential of this beast, though. As Desp had told me before, it&#8217;s not just a car where you hop in and perform a fast lap. It requires a lot... A LOT of practice. Still, with 955 horsepower, this car still turns even at full throttle! Take that, Veyron!

Pros:
-Mind-wrecking acceleration
-Greatly worked on, considering its power band
-Responsive
-Very exciting
-Can corner well
Cons:
-Very difficult to drive. NOT RECOMMENDED FOR THE AVERAGE DRIVER
My Score: 95/100
Tak's Score: 100/100
Average: 97.5​

Shall we organize a 3 way match? F1/Veyron/Your mom&#8217;s soccer wagon?

ENTRY#9- BobbyBRAKEaNek&#8217;s Chevrolet Camaro SS '10

I&#8217;m not a fan of American cars, really. For me, the car feels... average? I dunno. But for a muscle car, it did well. Usual problems were encountered though, such as corner exit oversteer. The acceleration was pretty fast, based on the replay.

Pros:
-Responsive
-Suspension and LSD work well (Tak)
Cons:
-Felt average
-Corner exit oversteer
My Score: 91/100
Tak's Score: 95/100
Average: 93/100​

ENTRY#10- ugabugaz&#8217;s RUF CTR &#8220;Yellow Bird&#8221; &#8216;87

Definitely one of the most exciting cars to drive! Uga has definitely made the car less of a heart attack to drive. I ended up sweating after driving this car. I could barely apply 60% throttle in the corners. But once you get to floor it, it feels very deserving! Starting the second lap, upon entering the hairpins, the car felt loose, therefore, the rear end ends up trying to spin. Fortunately, uga's tuning had positively helped this car in cornering performance! One thing I loved doing, was fighting against oversteer. It's so tempting, I'd even end up drifting.

Pros:
-Tremendous acceleration
-Exciting to drive
-Great rotation
Cons:
-Too much wheelspin
-Requires very precise control
-Too scary (Tak)
My Score: 98/100
Tak's Score: 89/100
Average: 93.5​

Times:

Onboy's Impreza---45.987
rob's R35----------------46.083
Shadow's R35--------46.456
XDesp's Audi----------47.055
Bobby's Camaro---47.168
Snake's RX-7----------47.343
uga's Yellow Bird---48.360
Tak's R34----------------48.719
Ridox's R33------------48.757
Haole's Impreza----48.769

 

[Ridox2JZGTE]

It's not NAT 3, it's NAT Unknown.

Unknown ?? I have seen NAT 1 on mine when connected directly to my modem, usually NAT2 as I used connection sharing through my laptop , but unknown or NAT3 would mean something is obstructing your PS3 to connect to outside world, maybe some ports are closed, or firewall is blocking some ports.
Also try to use public DNS server address, like google : 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 Please do try the MTU test, then apply the MTU value on the PS3, it might help.

 

[Mat123]

My results are on the previous page. It's just a draft. I haven't anazlyzed the replays yet, so the presentation is a bit too short.

EDIT BEFORE ANYONE RESPONDS: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know it's a pathetic review as of now... It'll be fixed sometime tomorrow.

 

[Onboy123]

I'm not gonna grill you for the review since it was a review, but I'm just not at all certain as to the criteria for 100/100&#8230;just for an example, Snake's RX7 suffered from snap oversteer, no? Should that not normally be marks off for drivablilty? In the same way that my Impreza had points off for being a bit too sideways?

Well&#8230;I've not got a clue how points are given or lost anyway, so you correct me where you see fit. I'm just not sure what is needed for 100/100.

 

[Mat123]

I'm not gonna grill you for the review since it was a review, but I'm just not at all certain as to the criteria for 100/100…just for an example, Snake's RX7 suffered from snap oversteer, no? Should that not normally be marks off for drivablilty? In the same way that my Impreza had points off for being a bit too sideways?

Well…I've not got a clue how points are given or lost anyway, so you correct me where you see fit. I'm just not sure what is needed for 100/100.

Which is why I am yet to analyze the replay. The scores aren't final.

 

[Onboy123]

Which is why I am yet to analyze the replay. The scores aren't final.

I'm not even asking for point fixing, I just want to know what the criteria is.

 

[Mat123]

I'm not even asking for point fixing, I just want to know what the criteria is.

Well, as of now, I'm judging by what I feel the car deserves. I graded the RX-7 100, because I found it rather enjoyable.

More details will be added soon, so don't worry.

 

[Onboy123]

Hmm&#8230;speaking of which, I never did get my Impreza back&#8230;Tak, I'm not too sure you'd want to keep it, really. Especially in that colour. It looks great on the R34, not too good on the Impreza at all.

 

[TakumiFuji01]

Hmm&hellip;speaking of which, I never did get my Impreza back&hellip;Tak, I'm not too sure you'd want to keep it, really. Especially in that colour. It looks great on the R34, not too good on the Impreza at all.

🤬 forgot to give it back! My bad.

 

[XDesperado67]

All I gotta say is...
Mind wrecking acceleration!

 

[TakumiFuji01]

Hey Tak do me a Christmas favor and regardless of who you and Mat decide goes in the final 4 run an all Outlaw grudge match with you at the wheel of my Dragon and Mat running Onboys Imprezza. Run team sunshine off the mountain please!

Haha! We'll see....

 

[ugabugaz]

Le Kérmit might have been banned but I'll be damned if no one gets to see the car in all its lardy glory. This is a Veyron doing Touge. Enjoy. As you can see, it actually corners, and does it oh so well.


.../still processing

 

[robrabbitman]

Very pleased with my R35. Everyone's cars had their own perks, but now it's time to see who gets to the finals..

 

[TanJaM92]

When are you guys going to start season 2 after holidays? (Christmas/w.e you celebrate.) Can't wait for S2 T300. Although I am Still deciding which T300 car I want to run, one massive awd with tons of torque or a lighter awd car with 120ft-lbs less torque. Decisions...

 

[SolidSnake7735]

Woah, big claims are really very big . Hmm&hellip;I'd try to be an arse and say bad things to you for being so smug, but since I've not even touched this car, I can't really open my trap.

If you really wanted to test that though, you'd need to do the Adrenaline test, i.e drive absolutely every tune for it for that purpose, as views between people will differ. Remember the 550PP FD you tuned for the JAC challenge that someone found utterly undriveable, but was rather nice for everyone else?

Actually, since it does seem to be rather interesting, you got a spare copy lying around? I'd like a go in it&hellip;

I can send it tomorrow since I sent my friend a DB9 just now. The one I entered for the JAC is the one I was gonna enter here but it was rendered ineligible because of Weight -3. Also, it's a purpose-built touge car, not the best thing to take to Suzuka

I'm not gonna grill you for the review since it was a review, but I'm just not at all certain as to the criteria for 100/100&hellip;just for an example, Snake's RX7 suffered from snap oversteer, no? Should that not normally be marks off for drivablilty? In the same way that my Impreza had points off for being a bit too sideways?

Well&hellip;I've not got a clue how points are given or lost anyway, so you correct me where you see fit. I'm just not sure what is needed for 100/100.

You should send me your Impreza as well, I'd love a go in it. I'm noy putting words in anyone's mouth, but I can imagine that the oversteer they felt in my FD isn't of the "snap" variety. The anti-roll-bars are set to eliminate the chances of the occurring, though if pushed hard enough, and carelessly, it can still happen. The car slides gradually on brake/throttle lift for greater control of the sideways action and to always keep you involved with the car and rewards you for perfect inputs. Not to bash anyone's GTR's but to me those cars are less fun because of how simple/easy they are to drive.

Simply put, my FD is the antithesis of the R35's.

 

[ugabugaz]

I can send it tomorrow since I sent my friend a DB9 just now. The one I entered for the JAC is the one I was gonna enter here but it was rendered ineligible because of Weight -3. Also, it's a purpose-built touge car, not the best thing to take to Suzuka

Woah, big claims are really very big . Hmm&#8230;I'd try to be an arse and say bad things to you for being so smug, but since I've not even touched this car, I can't really open my trap.

If you really wanted to test that though, you'd need to do the Adrenaline test, i.e drive absolutely every tune for it for that purpose, as views between people will differ. Remember the 550PP FD you tuned for the JAC challenge that someone found utterly undriveable, but was rather nice for everyone else?

Actually, since it does seem to be rather interesting, you got a spare copy lying around? I'd like a go in it&#8230;

That was me! That was me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!EXCLAMATION MARK

 

[TakumiFuji01]

I manage to run the Maou S2000 on Eiger with 51 secs(both Sector 1 & 2 combined). Testing out the S2000 once and while.

 

[Onboy123]

I can send it tomorrow since I sent my friend a DB9 just now. The one I entered for the JAC is the one I was gonna enter here but it was rendered ineligible because of Weight -3. Also, it's a purpose-built touge car, not the best thing to take to Suzuka

Alright then. 👍 Well…Suzuka is similar in…some ways…I guess. There's corners…uhh…it's sort of tight and it's quite long I guess.

You should send me your Impreza as well, I'd love a go in it. I'm noy putting words in anyone's mouth, but I can imagine that the oversteer they felt in my FD isn't of the "snap" variety. The anti-roll-bars are set to eliminate the chances of the occurring, though if pushed hard enough, and carelessly, it can still happen. The car slides gradually on brake/throttle lift for greater control of the sideways action and to always keep you involved with the car and rewards you for perfect inputs. Not to bash anyone's GTR's but to me those cars are less fun because of how simple/easy they are to drive.

Simply put, my FD is the antithesis of the R35's.

I would, if the two monkeys running this event would stop playing "pass the parcel" with it. Hmm…I should think so, since I think I read the review wrong.

And big 👍 to the bold bit. The R35 is still the only car to ever put me to sleep in a racing situation because it was so anti-entertaining.

The R35 Anti-thesis group is formed, "The R35 is left behind in a cloud of smoke, all is right with the world".

That was me! That was me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!EXCLAMATION MARK

I went through all the trouble of making you anonymous and that's what happens.

 

[BobbyBRAKEaNek]

Ok, my quick Camaro tune was boring. Now that our busy season is almost over at work, my better tunes will be presented.


Can the engine displacement be dropped for the HP classes so more vehicles and variety?

 

[SolidSnake7735]

Alright then. 👍 Well&#133;Suzuka is similar in&#133;some ways&#133;I guess. There's corners&#133;uhh&#133;it's sort of tight and it's quite long I guess.

Yeah, but it's much smoother than these touge courses and therefore the suspension is overworked unnecessarily and in turn the car is a but slower around mostly-flat terrain.

And big 👍 to the bold bit. The R35 is still the only car to ever put me to sleep in a racing situation because it was so anti-entertaining.

The R35 Anti-thesis group is formed, "The R35 is left behind in a cloud of smoke, all is right with the world".

I have nothing against the R35 and those that drive them, and having the money I would actually buy myself one IRL, but it's like an "Easy Button" of sorts here in GT5.

 

[TakumiFuji01]

Ok, my quick Camaro tune was boring. Now that our busy season is almost over at work, my better tunes will be presented.


Can the engine displacement be dropped for the HP classes so more vehicles and variety?

I think in my opinion, it should just be power restriction because Hot Version didn't do displacement, one-make car, car class restrictions until around 2009(They had 2000cc class, N.A Class, Rotary Class, Compact Class and etc). I prefer the old school power restriction.

 

[Mat123]

I would, if the two monkeys running this event would stop playing "pass the parcel" with it. Hmm&#8230;I should think so, since I think I read the review wrong.

Errm, what?

*Checks GT5.*

Oh, well look at that. I have your Impreza.

Anyways, guys, I won't be posting the updated reviews. I wouldn't really want to spoiling any thing more.

Also, I'll be gone for the day. It's one of my great grandfather's 1 year death anniversary.