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Estimate a realistic price for the rig (single monitor stand included).

  • 100€ - 150€

    Votes: 28 20.1%
  • 150€ - 200€

    Votes: 12 8.6%
  • 200€ - 250€

    Votes: 23 16.5%
  • 250€ -300€

    Votes: 19 13.7%
  • 300€ - 350€

    Votes: 19 13.7%
  • 350€ - 400€

    Votes: 10 7.2%
  • 400€ - 450€

    Votes: 8 5.8%
  • 450€ - 500€

    Votes: 7 5.0%
  • 500€ -550€

    Votes: 3 2.2%
  • 550€ - 600€

    Votes: 10 7.2%

  • Total voters
    139
That's great work and congratulations on getting this far! :)

Good luck with future sales too; looks really nice 👍
 
Again I have to say well done..

Looks nice, although some points.
Can you explain to us why the front section has the adjustable bolts with so much height adjustment?
I ask as the square tubing on the floor with a small adjustable foot would be more stable, no.? Sorry if I missed the reason for the bolts previously had been mentioned.

Not sure if others think the same, but for me Tim these rod type feet seem out of place and not perhaps the best looking solution. They may do the job and be strong but compared to the excellent design of the rest of the cockpit I feel these on a personal opinion could be improved. I see bice big chunky square frame with skinny threaded rods, somethings at a miss for me. Others may not feel as I do and thats fine so dont take my comment the wrong way please.

I think your main strengths are definately with the great front section and I see the possibility of you ALSO being able to sell this as a wheelstand minus the monitor support/shelf and maybe with the main tubing flat on the floor?

Of course like we once discussed via PM a while back having this option might be good and it would also mean anyone that buys it as a wheelstand can then if they want to later buy the other parts, like the monitor shelf and seat section to turn it into a fully fledged cockpit. Thats quite a USP to have in this already competitive market. Maybe some here would be interested in that option?

Sorry for rough pic edit, if you can photograph your built up unit just like this Id appreciate it and price it for me as I would be interested in buying as a stand mate
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I admire your dedication and willingness to see this cockpit of yours through and really you deserve to be commended for it.

Oh and btw Timpaq I bought similar steel heavy duty machinary feet for my base a long time ago and dont think I ever showed them.
Had adjustable angle with a solid metal dome foot but think I paid about £7 each for them.
 
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Again I have to say well done..

Looks nice, although some points.
Can you explain to us why the front section has the adjustable bolts with so much height adjustment?
I ask as the square tubing on the floor with a small adjustable foot would be more stable, no.? Sorry if I missed the reason for the bolts previously had been mentioned.

Not sure if others think the same, but for me Tim these rod type feet seem out of place and not perhaps the best looking solution. They may do the job and be strong but compared to the excellent design of the rest of the cockpit I feel these on a personal opinion could be improved. I see bice big chunky square frame with skinny threaded rods, somethings at a miss for me. Others may not feel as I do and thats fine so dont take my comment the wrong way please.

Thanks and it's nice to see you back on your own project too 👍

The adjustable bolts have a few purposes.

- as the aluminium tubings are made by hand and in undefined conditions, we can't guarantee that the drillings are perfectly matched and that's why I instruct to use a little bigger drill than would be needed in perfect world. This allows for slight inaccurateness in the manufacturing phase and still increases the chances of the holes to be lined sufficiently. The little hole oversize causes a little draw back though. There is a possibility for the parts to line up so that the bottom surface is not 100% flat. This may only be a few mm's but it can be enough to create slight sway to the rig (been there, seen that with the first proto). With the adjustable feet you'll be guaranteed to have absolutely no sway at all. Also, to have the contact points in the extreme corners is stability wise the optimal solution. Kind of why cars tend to have wheels as close to the corners as possible :p

Another point for the legs is that in different settings you'll need the extra vertical space they create for the pedals. It may not be that apparent in these pics as I've put the pedals quite high, but the need really can be there (and is for me).

Thirdly, you can use those legs to change the height of the "stand part". In theory, you could be so tall person you'd feel the need to get the steering wheel even higher than what is normally possible using the drilled holes, but by lifting the whole stand part up and lowering the seat portion at the same time you'll end up having relatively more adjustment for the wheel height.

Fourth point is (major one for me) that the cleaning under is stunningly more easy this way. You can just hoover right under and the lap record with the hoover is guaranteed to drop a few mins :p

I do agree though that the looks could be better.. there is maybe a too big difference between the thinner legs and the aluminium bar. But that is a lot more apparent in the pics than in real life as you are not looking it that way and the lighting often isn't as revealing either.

So if you don't need the extra vertical space for the pedals and manufacture the parts perfectly.. you won't need the legs probably. But the point of this rig is to give as much possibilities as possible. In this case, just don't manufacture the legs 👍 You'll end up saving some money too. :) The parts that I ship are only the start.. you tailor the rig to be the rig you want. Nobody will stop you and everything should be possible ;) 👍

I think your main strengths are definately with the great front section and I see the possibility of you ALSO being able to sell this as a wheelstand minus the monitor support/shelf and maybe with the main tubing flat on the floor?

Of course like we once discussed via PM a while back having this option might be good and it would also mean anyone that buys it as a wheelstand can then if they want to later buy the other parts, like the monitor shelf and seat section to turn it into a fully fledged cockpit. Thats quite a USP to have in this already competitive market. Maybe some here would be interested in that option?

Sorry for rough pic edit, if you can photograph your built up unit just like this Id appreciate it and price it for me as I would be interested in buying as a stand mate
2daj614.jpg

In theory it is a possibility to sell it in pieces. 👍 The thing is though that the only shipped parts you might not need are the screen table and the plywood part for the shifter. The seat portion is optional for you to build of course...

For anyone even thinking about this kind of rig, it's quite fair to assume that they will want the shifter part anyway (or at least I would strongly recommend it, it's not the same without it). So the optionable part would only be the screen table at this point. That doesn't make any difference regarding shipping, and the added cost is not very much. It's unfortunate that I will ship it with these ten first rigs if someone wouldn't want it, but I believe the price makes up for that quite nicely. I really shouldn't be selling these this cheap. I know you're after bigger profits with selecting from different variations of the rig, but I don't have the flexibility to do it just yet. I'll keep it in mind though 👍




I admire your dedication and willingness to see this cockpit of yours through and really you deserve to be commended for it.

Oh and btw Timpaq I bought similar steel heavy duty machinary feet for my base a long time ago and dont think I ever showed them.
Had adjustable angle with a solid metal dome foot but think I paid about £7 each for them.

Wow, you got robbed!

And thanks for your input once again :cheers: Has been proved to be quite useful during the last year :) 👍
 
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Thanks for detailed response.

Understand you want to sell first batch as they are.
No rush, maybe later if others would like it as a wheel stand idea too you can maybe do a small batch of them. Sure lets see how things go.

The feet I got are very heavy solid for their size and are actually used for industrial machinary. They are meant to be designed to minimise vibrations which with all the things I was using seemed ideal. Still yeah price I paid seemed high inc their postage.

Will add them into the thread at some point if I remember.
 
Tested the M10 adjustable legs yesterday and no problems whatsoever 👍

I try to get a few pics today.

edit,

still not able to get my camera back :grumpy:
 
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To have the same price everywhere, I've decided to drop it to 199€.


Including:
- Plywoods
- Laser cut metals
- Plastic end caps
- Full manual & instructions
 
Haha.. well, this is not going as I planned!! :lol: Any takers? We can still talk about the price if it's about that... PM me if at all intersted. I need to get these parts off my hands asap! I'm desperate!! :p
 
Shipping for these (to AUS):

Including:
- Plywoods
- Laser cut metals
- Plastic end caps
- Full manual & instructions

Would be around 72€. 👍 So, with shipping around 270€.

edit,

pm me and we'll see what would be possible, if you're interested. As I said there is little room in the price too 👍
 
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how much would shipping to the united states be?
also what doesn't the kit include (i see the seat is not included, but what else, also what type of seat do you recommend, would one out of a car work?)
 
Answered your PM..


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Examples for the shipping:

to US

- plywoods, metals & plastic end caps = 45€

to AUS

- plywoods, metals & plastic end caps = 72€

to DE

- plywoods, metals & plastic end caps = 33€

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A car seat is a great choice, make sure it has sliders. Standard type would be best, but with little work it should be possible to mount any kind of sliders.

This is what I mean:

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I would also recommend a reclining model for comfort and for more possibilities in seating positions.


The only other thing the kit doesn't include is the bolt's and nuts.. I can include those too, if it will be cheaper for you / easier for you / you just want it that way but that needs to be agreed specifically. 👍

Full shopping list is of course included in the manual.
 
I'm very interested in your rig. To get a complete price tag for myself, can you complete the missing parts:

Your Rig: 199€ + Shipping,
Seat: ?? (How mutch was your mounted seat)
Aluminium Tubes: ?? (Have to buy bymyself or in your package included?)

Thanks for answer.
sonix
 
Hi sonix,

My seat was bought as a pair. That was 320€ and included the sliders. If you look around you can find "single" seats on sale too. Around 150€ have been the cheapest ones I've found. Again, I recommend a reclining model warmthly 👍

Aluminium tubes cost me all together ~35€ here but that may vary from place to place.

Where do you live?
 
It looks great so far. Really good job.

The thing that throws it off for me is the threaded rods for mounting feet. You need a more elegant solution. Then it will look more professional.
 
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It looks great so far. Really good job.

The thing that throws it off for me is the threaded rods for mounting feet. You need a more elegant solution. Then it will look more professional.

Thanks and I somewhat do agree 👍

But there are benefits gained this way that makes the using of the rig in real life really nice. One of them being the easy cleaning under it. You really don't understand the meaning of this untill you experience how easy it is to hoover (for example) the floor under it. ;)

I could ask my gf's comments on this too.. :p

edit,

there are mods already done.. the latest being the using of the adjustable feet that are far more tender for the floor:

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Firstly good work in designing the cockpit I'm very impressed....so impressed I created an account here to ask a couple of questions.

OK first does it have adjustment for steering wheel height? I can't quite tell from your pics. Secondly is everthing included to build from the box? What i mean is say I ordered one, when I reicieved the package can I build from the box without needing to go buy extras?

Just for the record I don't need the moniter part I'd be happy just with the set up in that last pic...anyway very good work 👍
 
Firstly good work in designing the cockpit I'm very impressed....so impressed I created an account here to ask a couple of questions.

OK first does it have adjustment for steering wheel height? I can't quite tell from your pics. Secondly is everthing included to build from the box? What i mean is say I ordered one, when I reicieved the package can I build from the box without needing to go buy extras?

Just for the record I don't need the moniter part I'd be happy just with the set up in that last pic...anyway very good work 👍
Well he leaves the bolts out for cost reasons, unless you'll be happy to pay extra for them.
 
Firstly thanks for the compliments. :cheers: I do have a quite high requirements for my rig and this one has been fully build for my needs. I can't find anything near this from any store.

And yes, of course I can buy them (bolts etc.) from here and include to the shipping.. I left it open just because some might want to buy them themselves.. Might save a few ££ for some (the hazzle will be there though) or not depending off many things...

If you read the thread carefully there are many options how we can arrange the package.. I can sell you only all the parts without the aluminium tubes or then I can ship them too, but because of the lenght of the longest ones, those will need to be shipped in another box. This is just because of the limitations of my current shipping system (remember I'm still just a normal person, not a global company :P )

You will really save some money if you have the ability to make those alus yourself. I can do them for you of course as well, but shipping them and making them will cost you more money than if you'd do them yourself. It really is not a big deal if you just can find a place to buy aluminium tubing. I'd really recommend that option just for the sake of saving money. It isn't really cost effective for you to have me doing those for you and ship those. But it is possible.

About the adjustability I can only quote myself (1st post):

Features:

Seat stand
- adjustable height
- adjustable angle
- any proper racing seat will fit (runners needed)

Wheel Support
- adjustable height
- adjustable angle

Pedal support
- adjustable angle
- adjustable height
- adjustable distance from the seat
- can be used to support inverted pedals (separate pedals)

Shifter holder
- fits both sides
- adjustable height
- adjustable distance from the seat
- shifter can also be placed next to the wheel

Screen support
- Adjustable height
- little adjustment of angle (a few degrees)

Other
- designed to be very rigid (#1 priority)
- easy fitting of the buttkicker, I hope
- no welding, so should be easy to modify if needed
- weight around 10kg (one screen stand incuded)
- easy hoovering under it!!!

So I'd say the most cost effective way is for me to ship everything esle but the aluminiums. I guarantee you won't get anything like this from any store for this price. It fills my needs that I would be ready to bet are one of the most requiring ones... :p
 
So it happened the one I had for myself was bought by a Finnish guy.. (and he seems quite happy with it too, not sure of the gf :p)

..no worries, new one is already done :D

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..and it seems I need to clean my lens :p
 
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Nice!!

Haven't been following this as much as I should.

So pedals can be mounted upside down?

Do you have any pictures of this?

Thanks.
 
:cheers:

Not any real life pics of it yet.. Will do at some point. 👍

Even drawings in the mean time would be fine until you can get real ones. :)

Does it use the monitor stand for the mounting?

What is the overall length? From the end of the aluminum to the end of the wood foot plate.

Thanks.
 
This would be the principle:

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The lenght you mentioned is about 1500mm, depending of the adjustments.
 

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