Halo 3

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If your purpose on these boards is to incite flame wars, which is precisely what you achieved, by the way, then I suggest you find somewhere else to post, because I don't think I'm the only one who doesn't want to hear the ramblings of someone who doesn't even own the console and/or game being discussed.

I am not here to incite any sort of flame war. It is those who called me a fanboy, suggesting that I receive information from a biased website or that I hate Halo, are the ones who are inciting a flame war. Just because I don't own the game or system doesn't mean that I'm barred from talking about it. I'm not a politician either, but I sure do like talking about it.

I do own a HDTV, however. A developer who says their game is "almost 720p" doesn't sit well with me, and that is the point I'm trying to make. Not hAL0z fUkn SUXZZAh.
 
Ok I'll take it back, for close to between close and midrange combat the Assault Rifle is awesome, but I still like to keep a BR handy. BR and Assault Rifle is a good combo for maps that are not open or are indoors. But I'd still prefer a SR + BR combo for big open maps like Valhalla.
 
I am not here to incite any sort of flame war. It is those who called me a fanboy, suggesting that I receive information from a biased website or that I hate Halo, are the ones who are inciting a flame war.
Pure 100% bull****:
Solid Fro
Chalk up another 360 game that does not run at 1280x720.
That is 100% flame baiting. Period. Only much later did you hastily add "and PS3." The funniest part is that I'm sure you honestly believe that you weren't being so obviously biased. I personally hate the XBox 360 with a passion, and think the Halo series is comically overrated. And while I generally ignore the 360 goings ons, I also don't go around starting fights, so what is your excuse?

A developer who says their game is "almost 720p" doesn't sit well with me, and that is the point I'm trying to make.
No it wasn't. Your point was how Bungie somehow fleeced the buying public into buying a game that was not actually high def (which isn't the case), when Bungie came out and said that it wasn't 720p. So you really had no point other than to start a war over something you don't actually seem to understand.
 
Like I said, I am not the one who is inciting a flame war.

I post a story about Halo 3 not able to render at 1280x720 and I show factual evidence and I get called a fanboy, a Halo hater... I get demonized, I start fights, flame bait, and my opinions are deemed "bull****". I never once said that I hated Microsoft, Bungie, Halo, or the 360. In my original post, I barely state an opinion, and I get blasted. This is not the first time I have been railed for pointing out the facts about this. I hope that this opens your eyes as it did mine to games not actually being rendered at a HD resolution and relying on the hardware scaler instead. Call me whatever you want, tell me to STFU, ignore me if you are pleased. The facts will justify themselves.
 
You've changed your argument as well. It was at first Halo 3 was not HD, then its not a standard HDTV, and now you just quote the resolution.

The reason I can in here was because your debate style sucks, and you basically post pure flame bait. I really don't care what Halo 3 does or does not, I just dislike it when people come in, bash something just for the sake of bashing. And when they get called on it, get on a taller soap box about how they were just bringing attention to something.

You make broad sweeping statements, jump to conclusions, and try to back pedal yourself out of situations once you realize you gone the wrong way, rather than just admit you are wrong.

My best advice, seeing as how everyone else here feels you don't really contribute anything meaningful is that you get out and stay in the Sony area.
 
Here is Bungies answer:

http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?type=topnews&cid=12821

You Owe me 80p!

One item making the interwebs rounds this week was the scandalous revelation that Halo 3 runs at “640p” which isn’t even technically a resolution. However, the interweb detectives did notice that Halo 3’s vertical resolution, when captured from a frame buffer, is indeed 640 pixels. So what gives? Did we short change you 80 pixels?

Naturally it’s more complicated than that. In fact, you could argue we gave you 1280 pixels of vertical resolution, since Halo 3 uses not one, but two frame buffers – both of which render at 1152x640 pixels. The reason we chose this slightly unorthodox resolution and this very complex use of two buffers is simple enough to see – lighting. We wanted to preserve as much dynamic range as possible – so we use one for the high dynamic range and one for the low dynamic range values. Both are combined to create the finished on screen image.

This ability to display a full range of HDR, combined with our advanced lighting, material and postprocessing engine, gives our scenes, large and small, a compelling, convincing and ultimately “real” feeling, and at a steady and smooth frame rate, which in the end was far more important to us than the ability to display a few extra pixels. Making this decision simpler still is the fact that the 360 scales the
“almost-720p” image effortlessly all the way up to 1080p if you so desire.

In fact, if you do a comparison shot between the native 1152x640 image and the scaled 1280x720, it’s practically impossible to discern the difference. We would ignore it entirely were it not for the internet’s propensity for drama where none exists. In fact the reason we haven’t mentioned this before in weekly updates, is the simple fact that it would have distracted conversation away from more important aspects of the game, and given tinfoil hats some new gristle to chew on as they catalogued their toenail clippings.
 
Like I said, I am not the one who is inciting a flame war.

I post a story about Halo 3 not able to render at 1280x720...
See, that's all there is. The mere fact that you posted it. You know damn well the only reason you did so was to poke fun at Halo. Ha ha, Xbox can't even do 720p, ha ha, Halo suxx, ha ha.

Says the guy with a signature that says how overhyped Bioshock was. That's precisely what I was talking about in my earlier post. Since you have no X360, I can only assume that you played the game on the PC in order to generate that opinion. Or, perhaps, did you simply use that quote without playing the game at all? In which case, how do you know it was overhyped? I've played the game myself, start to finish, and I thought it was brilliant, and very much lived up to the hype. So who's opinion is worth more in that situation? Yours, who've never played it? Or mine, who's beaten it?

The same argument holds for this H3 argument. You can babble all you want about what you read on da interweb, but all I have to say is "Looks pretty damn high-def to me". I'd say that's a pretty strong statement, seeing as how I've got the game downstairs in my 360 right now.
 
Absolutly wrong, Jedi2016. I never once said anything to "poke fun" at the 360. I dare you to quote me. I have played the 360 version of Bioshock, I have my own opinion about the game and I do believe the game was over hyped and it not a "perfect game" by any measurement. That is my opinion.

I've began to notice that one cannot express his own opinion at GTP anymore. Please, keep demonizing me for having an opinion based on factual evidence. I no longer have the energy to care.
 
Absolutly wrong, Jedi2016. I never once said anything to "poke fun" at the 360. I dare you to quote me.
Solid Fro
Chalk up another 360 game that does not run at 1280x720.
Besides the fact that you brought it up in the first place (which honestly would have been okay if that sentence hadn't been included), it was that "itching for a fight" tone that made your intentions clear.

I've began to notice that one cannot express his own opinion at GTP anymore.
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Please, keep demonizing me for having an opinion based on factual evidence.
That you don't seem to understand regardless and obviously only brought up with the simple intent of getting in a pissing match.
 
Here is Bungies answer:

So they have to use work a rounds and short cuts to archive good but not great lighting. It is there first title so I'll let them off the hook. Explaining the two frame buffers seems more like a diversion from the 640p talk. Remember when the 360 was supposed to have free 4xAA? So are they splitting up the 10MB's of frame buffer negating the 4xAA?

Also did a little research and Halo 3 does use HDR however its not ture HDR. Faking HDR requires more than one frame buffer, the reason behind the use of two frame buffers for low and high dynamic range. Basically fake HDR does not use floating point instructions the same way and needs two frame buffers. Using two buffers cancels out free 4xAA by splitting the 10mb buffer 5 MB is enough for the dual 640p images.

I believe Heavenly Sword uses a similar method to achieve HDR but has 4xAA since they are not limited to 10mMBs.
 
You guys realise you are arguing over the definition of a game? Who cares, the game sold 2 millions copies and brought in $170 million according to Thursdays USA Today. Obliviously consumers do not give a rodent's behind if it's in HD or not. Hell this is Halo, people would buy it even if it had early generation PS2/Xbox graphics.
 
I really couldn't care less either way, and Bungie's answer sits well with me. The one thing I do know is that the game looks fantastic in HD and has a rock solid framerate, so I'm happy.


On to more important things: what's everyone's favorite multiplayer map so far?
 
Isolation. I don't know why. I usually like the bigger maps, but every time I play on it I do well.
 
On to more important things: what's everyone's favorite multiplayer map so far?

For some reason I keep playing on the same maps, but out of all that I've played on, Valhalla is so far my favorite.
 
So I just need one more skull to get the Hayabusa helmet :D Me and a buddy unlocked the IWHBYD helmet last night. It's so cool to finally get it :D

So, how and where do you find the skulls to begin with? I'm like on the 8th level and I haven't seen jack squat.
 
Halo does indeed look great in HD



and pixel for pixel at 100%

halo_02_full.jpg
 
So, how and where do you find the skulls to begin with? I'm like on the 8th level and I haven't seen jack squat.


Look a few posts back. I posted a link to a text description and a video to get all the skulls. If you want, we could do co-op some time and I could help you find them.
 
Two Halo 3 videos from me, which both have Benny Hill music in them:


 
My brother got the Halo 3 edition of the 360 and he also got Halo 3 when he bought it so I went over and last night we sat down and damn near beat the game in one sitting but after a lot of beer and pizza and being up till 4:30am we decided to finish in the morning. So this morning we finished it in 30 minuets. The hardest part was the part where you have to go into the part where you have to save Cortana and all of the flood blend in with the rest of the environment, hell we spent 2 and a half hour alone on that part. Over all this game was sweet, a little short IMO but I like it.
 
My brother got the Halo 3 edition of the 360 and he also got Halo 3 when he bought it so I went over and last night we sat down and damn near beat the game in one sitting but after a lot of beer and pizza and being up till 4:30am we decided to finish in the morning. So this morning we finished it in 30 minuets. The hardest part was the part where you have to go into the part where you have to save Cortana and all of the flood blend in with the rest of the environment, hell we spent 2 and a half hour alone on that part. Over all this game was sweet, a little short IMO but I like it.

I just got past that section on Legendary Solo. ;)
 
Indeed it is not the longest of games. But really multiplayer is like 90% of the game. After you finish playing singleplayer, you can maybe do it again online co-op or co-op with a friend or something like that, but multiplayer is where the big draw is, just like Call of Duty 2 and Call of Duty 3. Both had pretty good singleplayer (though not outstanding), but multiplayer was heaven.
 
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