Hennessey Venom GT 2012

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Well done, admitting the problem is the first step to bettering yourself.
Who says it's a problem? You? I'm quite content.

Look who's talking...
The person who corrected you on two different statements of fact, one of which you went out of your way to reaffirm as being correct even when you weren't the original one to claim it, is the one who's talking. If you were the one talking, it would be "The person who made multiple claims, then when it was pointed out they were wrong tried to claim it wasn't his fault he was wrong because he didn't like how he was corrected and he didn't care if he was right anyway."

Seems like I've seen this behaviour somewhere before...
Since I never said anything of the sort to imply the hypocrisy you're angling for, I'm going to say you've seen it in a mirror; yet interestingly still don't have the self-reflection necessary to realize you're just digging yourself deeper with how much you couldn't care less to get the last word in.

I didn't say that I wasn't wrong.
It's fun to retroactively claim what you "really" were saying with your statements (at least I'd hope it is, since you've attempted to do it with every post since my first response), but it doesn't work so well on a forum that saves all replies and edit histories. Half of your initial response to my original post (which, in fact, was a "simple correction") was "you know what I meant", which doesn't really mean anything because it was impossible to know what you really meant by essentially making things up. If you want to twist that as meaning "I tacitly admitted I was wrong" you can go right ahead. You seem to have no problem saying things without any actual knowledge (and that's not the mark of pride you alluded to earlier, by the way), so I doubt it would be too much of a stretch.
 
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You introduced yourself earlier, so I will too : I am CORRUPTEDDISC. I really, really enjoy arguing. I don't even need to be right to enjoy it, since the pleasure comes simply from letting whoever attempts to argue with me learn (assuming they are intelligent enough to) that trying to correct me with anything but a simple comment along the lines of "hey bud, this is the actual specs..." will result in hours/days of annoying, awkward and sarcastic replies that dissect virtually every statement you make. This generally teaches people with the tiniest shred of intelligence not to annoy me again, because as I said earlier - I can do this all day.

And I referred to you as 'Cupcake' because so far this conversation hasn't presented much of a challenge for me, and after your "I'm a smartass" speech, I was expecting more really...oh well.

Let's continue :)

Who says it's a problem? You? I'm quite content.

What a selfish view. Still, can't say I'm surprised since it's coming from the person who takes pride in being a "smart"ass...so far seems like just an ass...

The person who corrected you on two different statements of fact, one of which you went out of your way to reaffirm as being correct even when you weren't the original one to claim it, is the one who's talking. If you were the one talking, it would be "The person who made multiple claims, then when it was pointed out they were wrong tried to claim it wasn't his fault he was wrong because he didn't like how he was corrected and he didn't care if he was right anyway."

What's with the quotation marks? Nobody said that...you should be using these : ' --- ' not these " --- "

Since I never said anything of the sort to imply the hypocrisy you're angling for, I'm going to say you've seen it in a mirror; yet interestingly still don't have the self-reflection necessary to realize you're just digging yourself deeper with how much you couldn't care less to get the last word in.

Wow. Someone really does have trouble reading, or so it would appear since once again I didn't say anything whatsoever about "having the last word"...do pay attention dear. If you read my actual comment, it is very clear that I said that I didn't care about the specifications of the car, which I 'didn't even look up in the first place'. At least try and keep up...

It's fun to retroactively claim what you "really" were saying with your statements (at least I'd hope it is, since you've attempted to do it with every post since my first response)

Well, I'm guessing you were getting a bit tired here...since that would explain contradicting yourself within one sentence..."It's fun"(definite statement) and then "I hope"(speculative statement)..coming from the one claiming to state the facts, your slipping a bit...

but it doesn't work so well on a forum that saves all replies and edit histories.

...except I haven't edited any of my comments in this conversation, so that point is, well...irrelevant.

Half of your initial response to my original post (which, in fact, was a "simple correction")

You keep telling yourself that, because as you just pointed out above, everyone can see the wording and attitude of your original comment...

by essentially making things up.

Such as? I stated that the CC8S had 655 bhp, which it does. I stated that the Bugatti's record had been stripped, which it had. And the points that I made about it being naturally aspirated and powered by a NASCAR engine were, to my knowing, correct. Yet you take that and turn it into "making things up"...you're starting to look pretty stupid now to be honest...

If you want to continue this, up your game, because your getting messy very quickly...
 
This is probably the best argument i have ever experienced... ever. keep me laughing guys!
 
You introduced yourself earlier, so I will too : I am CORRUPTEDDISC. I really, really enjoy arguing. I don't even need to be right to enjoy it, since the pleasure comes simply from letting whoever attempts to argue with me learn (assuming they are intelligent enough to) that trying to correct me with anything but a simple comment along the lines of "hey bud, this is the actual specs..." will result in hours/days of annoying, awkward and sarcastic replies that dissect virtually every statement you make. This generally teaches people with the tiniest shred of intelligence not to annoy me again, because as I said earlier - I can do this all day.

And I referred to you as 'Cupcake' because so far this conversation hasn't presented much of a challenge for me, and after your "I'm a smartass" speech, I was expecting more really...oh well.

Let's continue :)
Ah and now YOUR being sarcastic. i don't care if you actually like arguing (i love it too ;)), but there is definitely an element of sarcasm in allot of your little rallies. and that is exactly what started this little argument isn't it?
 
I really, really enjoy arguing. I don't even need to be right to enjoy it
When you've been wrong about all but one thing you've stated over the course of the entire thread, I suppose it really would help to be that positive about your real reason for posting.

Wow. Someone really does have trouble reading, or so it would appear since once again I didn't say anything whatsoever about "having the last word"...do pay attention dear. If you read my actual comment, it is very clear that I said that I didn't care about the specifications of the car
Actually, no. What you said wasn't really "very clear". Let's examine the actual comment:
And it's blatantly obvious that this is true since you spouted back this lengthy and unnecessary comment to someone who clearly couldn't care less, since I didn't even look up the specs the first time.
Since you're giving free grammar lessons you surely know that what that bit at the end of that sentence did was simply add on to the beginning of the sentence which otherwise would be able to standalone as a complete thought (an "independent clause") rather than act as a direct extension of it. As the bit at the end also would have been able to stand on its own, what you formed was called a "compound sentence." The word "since" and the comma were then being used as the conjunction and punctuation to link the two separate thoughts.

So what your sentence is actually seems to be saying with the way that you structured it is that you're somebody who couldn't care less about this conversation I was having with you about the car's real specs, with the addendum to prove how little you cared about the conversation being that to that point you hadn't bothered looking up the specs. On top of that you can add the fact that everything preceding that sentence (and that sentence as well, for that matter) was about how I was acting in the conversation rather than what I was saying, which provides further context that you were discussing the conversation itself rather than the specific contents.
Had you structured the sentence in a way that caused it to be one thought (like "to someone who couldn't care less about a car's specs I didn't even look up" or something similar) it would have been obvious what your intended message was. It certainly could be interpreted as you are saying it always meant, but it is hardly the ironclad truth you are presenting it as. In any case, if you don't care about discussing the car's specs in a conversation started over a correction about the car's specs... um... well, I'll get to this in a bit.

What a selfish view. Still, can't say I'm surprised since it's coming from the person who takes pride in being a "smart"ass...so far seems like just an ass...
That's one way of trying to twist someone having a positive self-image. Seems to me that you're just annoyed that your attempt to make me feel bad about something you took issue with backfired when I owned up to it completely. The particularly amusing part of this whole reply is that you admitted to the exact same behavior at the start of this post... except you also made it known that you don't even care if you know what you're talking about when you decide to be "just an ass."

...except I haven't edited any of my comments in this conversation, so that point is, well...irrelevant.
Good thing I never said you were, then. This is part of that "sentence structure" thing from above. Being part of the same clause in the sentence merely makes it a second example of how this is a forum that it is harder to claim something other than what your original post stated. I've seen other forums that freely let members edit their posts with no timestamp or record, for example. There was a two week or so period of time where this forum was like that.

You keep telling yourself that, because as you just pointed out above, everyone can see the wording and attitude of your original comment...
So saying an engine was a "mildly enlarged and supercharged Mustang SVT Cobra engine"... wasn't a simple correction? In 7 words I said that you were incorrect and what the engine actually was. Should I have provided pictures comparing a 4.6 Modular block to the Koenigsegg block? Spelled things phonetically? The question mark seriously bothered you so much that immediately escalating things beyond the point of hypocrisy was the solution?

Such as? I stated that the CC8S had 655 bhp, which it does.
Yes it does. And if we were going by the "I said one thing about a talking point that was true so I might as well have been correct" system, you'd be the big winner!

I stated that the Bugatti's record had been stripped, which it had.
Nope. This goes also along with you retroactively claiming what you "really" meant. What you stated was that the Veyron's record had not been reinstated:
By the time this post was written, Guinness had already restored the Super Sport's record over a year prior.
Umm, nope. The Veyron SS holds no record regardless of the Venom...
This is a consequence of quoting me, saying I was wrong, then repeating the thing I was claiming to be incorrect as a retort to the counter claim I made. Both sentences of your post are important to understand what you were saying, as is the post you quoted to respond to. It's a fundamental constant in how all debates work, not just forum ones. As someone who "really, really enjoy(s) arguing," it's odd that you've never been made aware of that until now.


GranTurismo guy was the one who said that the Veyron no longer held the record as it was stripped over the speed limiter mess. You were the one who was saying that the Veyron no longer held the record because the record had not been restored. Now, the base concept was similar (the Veyron didn't have the record), but the context of the entire discussion is the important part. He said it regarding the record originally being stripped in response to Hennessey Venom. You said it as a rebuttal to my claim that they got it back ("Umm, nope").
In either case, it wasn't true. It wasn't true when he posted it, though he at least had the justification of not knowing about the restoration of the record. It wasn't true when you objected with no basis to my correction of his post. It hasn't been true since April of last year. It seems that you don't even care to read your own posts as closely as you're claiming needs to be done by others.

And the points that I made about it being naturally aspirated and powered by a NASCAR engine were, to my knowing, correct. Yet you take that and turn it into "making things up"
That's because stating things without any knowledge to whether they are correct or any care if they are correct is... making things up. As is directly challenging a statement of fact even though the fact in question was so easily researched (if you type "Veyron record" into Google it is the third result) that you're clearly simply going through the motions of trying to look authoritative.

The question then becomes this: If you don't care about the specifications of a car you were talking about, and you don't care if some other car that the Hennessey Venom the thread is actually about still holds the world record the Venom was designed to challenge, what exactly do you care about? Certainly not forwarding any relevant points, since you can't spend 3 seconds to type 2 words into Google before taking issue with something someone is saying. Could it be that... you're just posting to try to get the last word in as your contribution? Or do the "hours/days of annoying, awkward and sarcastic replies" (which, it should be said, are also highly amusing) actually amount to something after a while?




On that topic:
...you're starting to look pretty stupid now to be honest...
It's certainly quite a shame that you've never read the AUP either. I think you'll find your propensity to argue for argument's sake rather than to actually say anything of value will probably allow you to skirt around the AUP even if you are spouting off complete nonsense; since without proof of prior knowledge there's (as I said before) nothing necessarily problematic with being blatantly wrong about things. Even implied insults generally are given the benefit of the doubt.
Being openly abusive, though, doesn't usually lead to a long membership. Food for thought, perhaps; though you increasingly seem like more of a BSE kind of guy instead.
 
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When you've been wrong about all but one thing you've stated over the course of the entire thread.

Hmm, having trouble with numbers too are we? Since so far I count : #1 The CC8S' correct power output, #2 Your contradicting yourself, #3 Your incorrect punctuation, and #4 Your attempting to be a smartass, to name just four...

what your sentence is actually seems to be saying with the way that you structured it is that you're somebody who couldn't care less about this conversation I was having with you about the car's real specs, with the addendum to prove how little you cared about the conversation being that to that point you hadn't bothered looking up the specs. On top of that you can add the fact that everything preceding that sentence (and that sentence as well, for that matter) was about how I was acting in the conversation rather than what I was saying, which provides further context that you were discussing the conversation itself rather than the specific contents.
Had you structured the sentence in a way that caused it to be one thought (like "to someone who couldn't care less about a car's specs I didn't even look up" or something similar) it would have been obvious what your intended message was. It certainly could be interpreted as you are saying it always meant, but it is hardly the ironclad truth you are presenting it as.

Well done, you've finally caught up. Took long enough. You present this point as though it is some profound truth, whereas in reality I have been repeating this very point from the start. And clearly, my point is not as difficult to grasp as you say it is, since you just contradicted yourself AGAIN by saying the exact point I have been telling you all along.

That's one way of trying to twist someone having a positive self-image. Seems to me that you're just annoyed that your attempt to make me feel bad about something you took issue with backfired when I owned up to it completely.

Being positive about yourself doesn't make you a better person for it. And your comment just adds to the proof that what I alluded to is true : you are a selfish person who couldn't care less how he affects others. That is the fundamental difference between us. I am a very aggressive person when provoked, and as such I try to avoid negative people (but deal with them when they arise,
dealing with them as they try to with those who are afraid to answer back). You on the other hand, seek others out with the purpose of acting as the smartass (as you showed in your 'introduce yourself' comment).

Good thing I never said you were, then......this is a forum that it is harder to claim something other than what your original post stated. I've seen other forums that freely let members edit their posts with no timestamp or record, for example. There was a two week or so period of time where this forum was like that.

Again, this bears what relevance to the discussion?...because from here, it just looks like filler...

Yes it does. And if we were going by the "I said one thing about a talking point that was true so I might as well have been correct" system, you'd be the big winner!

"Big winner"? What are you, twelve years old? And again, that quote isn't a quote, so it's (')these(') not (")these("). And saying something that is true is, by definition, correct, so yeah...you probably should have put more thought into that one.

you're clearly simply going through the motions of trying to look authoritative

Who exactly is trying to look authoritative? I made a simple statement about the Koenigsegg that I prefer. You were the one who bumbled in, quoting left right and centre trying to "look authoritative"...maybe you should apply that pithy mirror illustration that you babbled on about in one of your previous comments...

Being openly abusive, though, doesn't usually lead to a long membership.

Funny, because I've met quite a few people on GTP so far who skirt pretty close on that one...

In summary :

I will respond to you with the same attitude that you use. If you try and act as a smartass (as you admitted to doing as your primary tactic) then expect the same back from me. This entire conversation has been about your attitude. And you are so focused on the little things that you don't even see it. You have kept on repeating how proud you are of being a smartass, therein affirming an offensive attitude. An attitude that you yourself pointed out "doesn't usually lead to a long membership."

Hence, "I don't even need to be right", since drawing out your bad attitude was my real goal. You've skewered yourself on your own reasoning.
 
this is a forum that it is harder to claim something other than what your original post stated. I've seen other forums that freely let members edit their posts with no timestamp or record, for example. There was a two week or so period of time where this forum was like that.

How ironic that the one harping on about this irrelevant point is the same one who has edited quite a few of their own posts, whereas the one who the comment is directed at has edited none of theirs...
 
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Here's what hennessey was saying on the one:1 youtube video.
*Shrugs Shoulders*
 
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