Hey whats with the black-outs up northeast area?

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My girlfriend just called- She's an RN at a local hospital. She was called down to the ER to deal with all the people who got hurt when the traffic lights went out for a minute! Not to mention all the paraniod retards fighting over candles n'crap at Wal-Mart & local supermarkets! What the hell is wrong with people!?!
I'll add that the Capitol aera of NY only had MINOR outages!!! WE HAVE FULL POWER!!! RETARDS!!!

My honey is making nice OT, but I want her home. :irked:
 
Originally posted by risingson77
Large scale power failures like this are rare. I wouldn't write off privatization just yet.

Besides, with the electricity rates being what they are, I can't imagine that power companies don't have a decent cash flow.

Just be glad it didnt hit us up here in maine rising:D

So lucky...every state in new england but us...:odd:

but seriously blame Cannada. That's what George Pataki (govenor of new york) was saying the source is somewhere in Cannada.

Duh?:p
 
My own (brilliant) personal account:

At about 2:45 PM local time I took the Holland Tunnel across the Hudson River on to Manhattan to have a late lunch with my girlfriend who lives in the northern Financial District in the lower end of Manhattan. At about 3:25 PM we got up to the restaurant she chose, vaguely north of the intersection of 65th & Park, and had finished paying for our meal when the lights in the restaurant went out - not a good sign.

We got in her car, not knowing of any problem, and took Park south, which turned out to be a big mistake - by 4:25 several area buildings had been evacuated and the street was completely jammed. We got to 50th & Park before stopping completely; Grand Central Station is at 43rd and Park and traffic was backed up the seven blocks in front of us because of all the people on the streets around Grand Central. The normal five lanes of the west side of Park Avenue turned into two at Grand Central and people were scattering wildly in front of cars adding to the mess.

Like most people we jumped off at a cross street and attempted to take Avenue of the Americas the remaining 70 blocks. We got on Avenue of the Americas from 49th St at 4:45 PM and by 5:45 PM (an hour) we had only gotten to 31st St - an average of 3 MPH. We continued on in this fashion; upon hitting Washington Square at about 8th St (7:50) everything really got bad - compounded by the fact that at the Holland Tunnel entrance, just a mile and a half south, nothing was moving and nobody could get by on either side.

We finally couldn't take it anymore and moved over to Broadway, which moved slightly faster. We got to my girlfriend's apartment at 8:40 PM local time, four hours and fifteen minutes after leaving the restaurant - power was already back in parts of the Upper West Side (west of Central Park) by then. Her apartment was without water for the reason Mayor Bloomberg described in his press conference - she lives on one of the high floors of her building and an electronic water valve had stopped working due to the blackout, causing her to be without any quantity of water. Upon realising this we decided to purchase some bottled water, which was hard to do because most shops closed long before 8:00 PM for fear of looting. We eventually found some at a nearby 24-hour supermarket and she went back up to her apartment at about 9:10 PM. I retrieved my rental car from her garage at 10:30 and was able to get home by 11 PM - a full eight hours and fifteen minutes after originally making the trip into the city via the Holland Tunnel.


...and now I'm here...
 
You guys are acting like it's the end of the world or something...
 
Originally posted by Super-Supra
It's a terrorist attack. That's what I think.

You're a retard. That's what i think.

Seriously, what's the big deal? Most of Eastern Canada got "owned" by an ice storm (electric pylons and lines were heavily damaged by ice) in 1998 for a good week, without electricity, and everyone survived... Everyone's making a big deal out of nothing.
 
Originally posted by PunkRock

Seriously, what's the big deal? Most of Eastern Canada got "owned" by an ice storm (electric pylons and lines were heavily damaged by ice) in 1998 for a good week, without electricity, and everyone survived... Everyone's making a big deal out of nothing.
Considering it's the largest blackout in world history in area and number affected, I wouldn't quite compare it to ice storms in Canada - I've survived typhoons before (well, one) and I wouldn't liken the two.
 
Fred, exactly. Too many people take power for granted. Whenever there's an outage here, we make it through just fine. My dad just sleeps it off, I'll go biking to scope out the area(well, now I can drive around for that much), my mom will talk to nieghbors, and the worst thing that happens is that we are bored. If anything, power outages help communities become tighter-knit. People come out of thier houses and talk to eachother. Everyone's screwed temporarily, so everyone is pretty much at the same level.

Though I would be pissed if I was way up in a sky scraper when everything went dark, with no elevators and stuff. Once on the ground I'd just walk around or something.
 
Originally posted by M5Power
Considering it's the largest blackout in world history in area and number affected, I wouldn't quite compare it to ice storms in Canada - I've survived typhoons before (well, one) and I wouldn't liken the two.

But it's a blackout! In August!! It's not like people are going to die freezing, or something! If you get hot, open your windows! You're bored? Light up candles, and bust out that deck of cards! Jeeze...
 
Originally posted by MazKid
Everyone's screwed temporarily, so everyone is pretty much at the same level.

That's exactly it. Heck, the neighbor might just have a generator, and he might just invite you over for the night... You never know.

Though I would be pissed if I was way up in a sky scraper when everything went dark, with no elevators and stuff. Once on the ground I'd just walk around or something.

Well, there's always the good old stairs... The said power outage started in the afternoon, so it was still pretty clear and sunny outside, hence why being "stuck" inside isn't really a problem. It's almost midnight, i'm sure no one's left in any skyscraper.
 
Doug - you spend more time with your girlfriend than you do with me. I feel deprived.

Yeah, I'm in California. No blackouts for me. Yayz.

Anyone who suspects terrorism is stupid. Causing a blackout doesn't exactly inspire fear into the hearts of millions.
 
Well, I actually just got home from Massachusetts around 7, but I heard it started at about 4. Nothing was really that different, that I could see. I had power, I didn't care. :p
 
Originally posted by PunkRock
But it's a blackout! In August!! It's not like people are going to die freezing, or something! If you get hot, open your windows! You're bored? Light up candles, and bust out that deck of cards! Jeeze...

They attempted to evacuate an island containing about six million people, 21 power plants went out within three minutes, and it was the largest power outage in world history - world history! It doesn't get any bigger, especially with still-high fears of terrorism. What more do you want?

Doug - you spend more time with your girlfriend than you do with me. I feel deprived.

Wasn't my asking.

Causing a blackout doesn't exactly inspire fear into the hearts of millions.

You've got it all wrong - when we can't see, that's when they poison the water!
 
Originally posted by M5Power
It doesn't get any bigger, especially with still-high fears of terrorism. What more do you want?

I'm starting to wonder if the entire US population wasn't affected from paranoiya... Or if they are just stupid. Everyone knows lightning is natural, and everyone knows it always hits the highest point it can find (in this case a power plant, that made the others shut down due to "overcharging" or whatever you want to call it...")

I still say everyone's making a big fuss out of something relatively small. (yeah, there are 21 million people stuck without electricity. So what? They should go back home and wait, instead of trying to leave town... things'll be back up to normal by tomorrow afternoon, or Saturday morning at worst.)
 
Originally posted by M5Power
Not everybody is Canadian.

I don't have a generator, neither does my neighbor. and by Generator i mean one of those mobile one, that can be used for camping, you know?

Damn, why am i double posting what i could reply to in a single post? Silly me...
 
Well from what i think, it was only a matter of time before something liek this was going to happen, appearently the "gridline" system is really ****ed up, good thing i live in a power rich province like manitoba!!
 
Originally posted by PunkRock
I'm starting to wonder if the entire US population wasn't affected from paranoiya... Or if they are just stupid. Everyone knows lightning is natural, and everyone knows it always hits the highest point it can find (in this case a power plant, that made the others shut down due to "overcharging" or whatever you want to call it...")


Heh - keep in mind it wasn't confirmed what started this until about four hours after it happened. In fact, Ontario's Premier broke the idea of lightning at about 8:20 local time.

Originally, the reports were fairly frantic, and seeing so many people exiting Manhattan by foot over the bridge was very September 11-esque.

Adding to it all was that after the last cascade-induced blackout, New York supposedly fixed it so that such a thing would never happen again; in effect when one plant went offline the rest were supposed to remain on.

yeah, there are 21 million people stuck without electricity. So what? They should go back home and wait, instead of trying to leave town...

Heh again - the blackout struck at 4:15 local time. The workday ends at 5 PM. About eighty percent of those who work on Manhattan live in surrounding boroughs or areas, and to commute to such places they take the Subway, ferries, buses, Amtrak or taxis - today's problem was that even more people were on the streets than usual, and Amtrak and the subway couldn't move - plus taxis (open ones) were nowhere in sight. Basically, the best way to get off the island was to walk over the bridge (ferries were backed up for several hours).

So when you say 'go home and wait' you must understand that home is over the bridge, in almost all cases.

I don't have a generator, neither does my neighbor. and by Generator i mean one of those mobile one, that can be used for camping, you know?

Yeah - seems Canadian to me.
 
Originally posted by hanker
Well from what i think, it was only a matter of time before something liek this was going to happen, appearently the "gridline" system is really ****ed up, good thing i live in a power rich province like manitoba!!
Manitoba's in the same power grid actually. Goes as far west as Saskatchewan.
 
Doug, you forgot the Long Island R.R., Metro North to Westchester & CT., NJ Transit & P.A.T.H.trains to NJ.
 
Originally posted by hanker
So then what kept my province from not being affected??

It was explained to me as this: one power plant fails and triggers the next plant's failure, each plant losing slightly more momentum as it fails. By the time it gets to the xth power plant, it's lost all momentum and won't go farther.

Doug, you forgot the Long Island R.R., Metro North to Westchester & CT., NJ Transit & P.A.T.H.trains to NJ.

Amtrak doesn't run those? I at least thought they did NJ PATH.
 
Amtrak is Uncle Sam, L.I.R.R. is Metropolitan Transit Authority. They run out of Penn Station. So does NJ Transit, I don't know who ownes them.
Grand Central is all about Metro North, also MTA. Their trains run under Park ave (hence the divider, look & you'll see vents), up to the Hudson River.
PATH (Don't know) Ran from underneath the WTC. I know they run now, I'm not sure where from.
 
Just heard a couple of minutes ago that Detroit and its 2 million hydro users are not expected power until tomorrow sometime, maybe even saturday, Also in Detroit one store was taking advantage of the situation selling cases of bottled water for upto $175
 
Originally posted by Rat Bastid
I know they run now, I'm not sure where from.

Penn Station; either of them (though it seems to me their terminus is the Penn Station in Newark).

Their trains run under Park ave (hence the divider, look & you'll see vents), up to the Hudson River.

Park's only divided up to 42nd and it dies at 14th anyway. How does it manage to run to the Hudson, then? HMMMMM?
 

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