Highcroft's Deltawing *Update: granted ALMS 2013 full entry! *

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I'm surprised you didn't know about Motorland Aragon before Hun, its quite a popular track for testing not to mention the motorbike and Formula Renault racing that regularly visits.

Yeah and it has been mentioned by a lot of us here as what should be on the calendar for F1, ah well, good popular track.👍
 
Well, it was a bit of a brain-fade moment :p because I had heard about it. I suppose it was due to the fact that I never actually seen any event running there, and never checked or seen the track layout. So, it was "new" to me in that sense.


About the un-named track they'll be testing on in France, I was expecting it to be Paul Ricard also (they would meet the TOYOTA there) but apparently they went to the MICHELIN Test Track at Clermont-Ferrand. I suppose Michelin has "loads" of data available for all cars with all tyres in that track so it might be useful .

A pic from today at the Michelin HeadQuarters at Clermont-Ferrand, not at the track though.

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MarcoM mentioned in the Spa thread that the TOYOTA Team was headed for Magny Cours for testing.

Well, they won't be alone there. At last Highcroft revealed where they will be doing their "french" testing before moving on to Aragon.

Here:
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Looking forward to our first test here tomorrow. #nissandeltawing @Nissan_OnTrack @LeMansLive @michelinalley #lm24 http://pic.twitter.com/MS6nz3ya
 
That's interesting and I guess it shows the still-sceptics that Nissan really thinks highly of him, enough to use him in some of the litle precious testing time they have before getting to La Sarthe (it's now one month to Le Mans Test Day).

Highcroft just released this video:





And this first picture of him in the car:

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Still with Marino Franchitti at the wheel, the DeltaWing at Magny-Cours:

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Nissan continues to release their thematic videos about the DeltaWing.

After the Wind Tunnel video and the Engine video, both already posted in this thread, now they released (with Michelin) the Tyres video. Very interesting, as always:





In other news, Highcroft is in Aragon now. Marino Franchitti is there, Lucas Ordonez is too, not sure about Michael Krumm and Satoshi Motoyama. Don't know the weather there (they came south hoping for sun) but I can say that in Lisbon it's raining now like it never rained this year :lol:
 
Maybe we'll get it as DLC around Le Mans for GT5, that would be neat.
Liking how serious they are about it and how they promote the machine and while I don't like the Nissan branding everywhere, it is good for the project it seems.
 
Highcroft, Nissan and Marino Franchitti are in total "black-out" ever since Magny Cours. They tested already at Aragon (maybe they are still there?) but nothing, be it on Facebook or Twitter. Don't know if that's good or bad ...

Meanwhile, a Youtube Account called "circuitmagnycours" published a video about the DeltaWing at that track. Enjoy:

 
Generally speaking, when the words "Top Gear" and "building" are used in the same sentence, the results are, well, not so good lets say. :rolleyes:

All kidding aside, I hope it turns out nice. The man in charge looks like he's done this before, judging by the insides of his house.
 
Adding to the build up to Test Day. A new "explanatory" video:



blah, blah blah ... ok we got it already, Mr. Bowlby. What we need to know now is the laptimes this car will do at La Sarthe next June 3rd. I hope they're made public!
 
I've seen that the DeltaWing will be speed-limited to about 185mph. Wouldn't this be dangerous with prototypes doing 200+? It looks like if it got hit, it would live up to the Wing part of it's name rather quickly.
 
It will either win or do 2 laps.

190mph is about GT top speed I think, so the Deltawing will probably be same pace on straights but in turns make it all up with its agile light chassis.
 
It will never be allowed to "win" and I bet there's some clause about it in the garage 56 contract. If it gets in front because of some unimaginable Audi /Toyota /pescarolo/ HPD disaster, I'm sure some "mechanical problem" will surface and make it pit for 15 minutes. It would be an upset to have this off-competition car smoke the ... competition.

It will mix in the LMP2 class (afterall that's their target performance or so I read) quite nicely.
 
So much for all those who said that it would never be able to turn with those small, close set front wheels!
 
Indeed. Now that we already know this thing works (and turns) on a single lap, and is capable of lapping Le Mans at a LMP2 pace despite being underpowered, the true challenge comes to the front.

Will it use half the fuel the other use, during a set period of racing time? Will it use half the tyres also?

Because that is what made the DeltaWing eligible for garage 56 in the first place. The fact that it would go the distance with half the resources.

This concept, originally designed for Indianapolis spec-racing, had a 3rd objective. To allow for close racing at high speed. Hence the complete lack of wings, front or back. That's not as important at Le Mans, but the lack of wings helps with fuel consumption, so the design carried over to this version of the car, one that therefore remains "wingless".


Some pages ago in this same thread I referred to a user (Machin) from "F1technical" that was very sceptical of this concept (not that it wouldn't work, more that it would, but the triangular shape was a gimmick and a rectangular - venturi - car would achieve the same or better results).

I see now that he attended a conference with Bowlby and questioned him - more or less indirectly - about this. He was kind enough to record some questions and answers so, with due respect and credit to the original author of this - Machin, from F1technical - I'll reproduce what he posted in the F1technical forum:

Q: You’re working with some big names; what do they hope to gain from it?

Ben Bowlby:Its an extraordinary opportunity to challenge things and determine exactly what we can do in terms of efficiency whilst still maintaining performance.
Its a massive honour, really its a genius from the ACO to have an experimental class. I think what the Deltwaing does is quite significant; its an ultra light-weight car made from advanced materials; its the real deal; it actually can do the improvement in efficiency whilst maintaining the same performance, an electric car can’t do that at the moment. For that reason, the ACO chose us.



Q: You aren’t elligable for the win, but you will certainly have a lot of attention at Le Mans; its a very dramatic looking vehicle....

Ben Bowlby:It does look like the Batmobile, but this IS a real project; its not a marketing exercise; This is the absolute most efficient vehicle to do an LMP1 lap time that we could come up, I’m sure there are cleverer people out there that would come up with a better way of doing it; but we’ve done the calcs and our simulations show this configuration is the fastest car that we were able to simulate that could do the performance we needed and burn about half the fuel of a petrol LMP1 car.



Q: Those simulations were around Le Mans, I guess, but around a circuit like Brands Hatch Indy (which is slower and twistier) do you think it would still be the best configuration, or do you think a ground effects rectangular shaped car would be better?

Ben Bowlby:Urrrmmm... I think it could take on anything... its a tricky question... what’s the parameters? If you are looking at fuel consumption being the denominator of performance I think we could take on anybody no matter what format....We have greater efficiency... its going to have to be a two wheel drive car because although 4 wheel drive (there’s going to be no rules right?) 4 wheel drive is very high performance but also higher weight, so you’d go with 2WD and then you want the weight over the driven wheels. The aerodynamics, the mass, and the tyre sizes need to be in harmony with each other, once you have that you basically have a car that behaves like a normal racing car.
We did some sims with 500bhp to see what it would do... and.... it was very fast!



Q: Did you ever think about making it 3 wheels?

Ben Bowlby:At one point I thought ‘yeah we’ll make it a 3 wheeler’, but a 3-wheeler isn’t a car under the the FIA definition; its a motorcycle, so what we did was put the front two wheels close together so that they act as one. We looked at racing sidecars to see what technology they’re using for steering and things like that, in fact we built a 3 wheeled radio control model to test the concept, and actually the model behaved exactly like the real thing. That was in the pre-budget; it was my own money!



Q: Its basically a mid-engined Reliant Robin isn’t it?

Ben Bowlby:It is! A Reliant Robin with the mass in the right place!



Q: Does the Delta configuration make the rectangular configuration obsolete?

Ben Bowlby:I don’ think so, no.... but I do think its important that the motorsport industry has a wide spread of projects; look at what Nissan are doing with the Leaf, I think its good to promote efficiency.



Q: You are in the experimental class; You are not expected to finish the race

Ben Bowlby:Our expectation is that we have done enough work to finish the race, but the reality is that we probably won’t. We’re having to temper our hopes; If you were going to win Le Mans you would have probably 2 years of testing with multiple 30 hour tests, we’ve done 25 laps in succession so far without hitting a problem; Its a tough challenge; the problems haven’t been the things we thought we’d have a problem with, its the things we were certain would be OK. But each time we test we go a little faster and get a little more reliable.



Q: Under race conditions what does the engine do MPG wise?

Ben Bowlby:On the dyno it does 230g/kWhr... there is virtually no petrol road car that makes horsepower at that small a fuel burn... on the race track it equates to around 12 miles per UK Gallon; it doesn’t sound that good but that is actually an impressive number; about double what the petrol LMP1 cars will get.
 
That's about 10 mpg American on the racetrack? At full speed?

That's bloody fantastic!
 
What are the relative (approximate) power and weights of the LMP1, LMP2 and DeltaWing cars? Regulations determine how good the LMP1 and LMP2 cars can be, so I'm wondering if its really a fair comparison with the fuel consumption?
 
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