I don't think the GT franchise to be a laughing stock. Played GT since the start. It fed and nurtured my love for motorsports. It's provided me with countless hour's of racing. Covering ten's of thousands miles over the past 20 years. It's the reason why I'm a member of this site. It's why I've come to know some great people through racing and gtplanet (gtpwrs & storagetrunks). Couldn't wait for sport to come out after playing both beta's. The online racing with ranking and penalty system, the championships. All of this was what I wanted from a racing game. Finally fun, fast, close racing when ever it suits. Nearly a year and a half later I play iracing. just gtsport ain't my thing it didn't provide the racing i wanted iracing does, currently and probably for a while. I guess you like it or you don't, it gives you what you want or it doesn't. GT, Forza, Pcars, iracing etc all could do with improvements and need certain things changed or have something missing. That's just life nothing can be (truly) perfect. Absolutely nothing wrong with saying GT or any sim racing game to be laughing stock or the best. Today with so much choice I think it comes down to what you want and expect from a sim racing game. And just because we prefer one over the other we shouldn't automatically believe someone to be wrong when they have a different contradictory opinion. If we had a sound scientific method to determine which is the best racing sim then maybe. But that can't happen because racing involves emotions and feelings which is subjective and... (I'll leave that alone) At the end of the day the only thing that matters is the racing.