How does aerodynamics effect drifting?

[zedfonsie]

Having aerodynamics on any part of the car what does it do? is it plainly for looks or does it serve a purpose?

Does more downforce on the rear wing increase speed in FR cars?

 

[Meerly a cat]

I think in the game any downforce serves a slight purpose but I see most of the difference when using a rear wing for a drift car. I don't know much but it just seems to add more weight and make the back end not as easy to direct around a corner. Plus most of the aerodynamic parts look pretty crap on the game in my opinion.

 

[SFX_Adavicro]

In my opinion added or adjustable downforce doesn't change too much, but it does have its benefits. From what I've experienced, extra rear down force makes the rear end slightly harder to make step out, the car stays a lot more planted. Once it does go sideways, it seems that the car stays more stable during the slide, usually allowing for more countersteer and less throttle/steering inputs.

Take the Amuse S2000 GT1 for example, that car benefits greatly from the high rear downforce, I've driven it with all different types of aerodynamic settings and I've found max in the rear works best for me, its also slightly faster both in straight lines and during drifts compared to when it has lower amounts of rear downforce.

I don't mess with front downforce too much as I haven't seen much of a difference when tweaking it for drifting. I believe it just adds a bit more front end grip giving you more control with the front wheels, how much of that is true when going sideways, I don't know for sure.

In short, I like added downforce on my drift cars for the most part, it seems to give me a bit more speed and control. That is, if that particular wing looks good or not. I cry every time I see a Supra RZ with a silly wing... 👎

It has to look right for the car and serve a purpose, otherwise there's no point.

 

[Gonales]

in my opinion added or adjustable downforce doesn't change too much, but it does have its benefits. From what i've experienced, extra rear down force makes the rear end slightly harder to make step out, the car stays a lot more planted. Once it does go sideways, it seems that the car stays more stable during the slide, usually allowing for more countersteer and less throttle/steering inputs.

Take the amuse s2000 gt1 for example, that car benefits greatly from the high rear downforce, i've driven it with all different types of aerodynamic settings and i've found max in the rear works best for me, its also slightly faster both in straight lines and during drifts compared to when it has lower amounts of rear downforce.

I don't mess with front downforce too much as i haven't seen much of a difference when tweaking it for drifting. I believe it just adds a bit more front end grip giving you more control with the front wheels, how much of that is true when going sideways, i don't know for sure.

In short, i like added downforce on my drift cars for the most part, it seems to give me a bit more speed and control. That is, if that particular wing looks good or not. I cry every time i see a supra rz with a silly wing... 👎

It has to look right for the car and serve a purpose, otherwise there's no point.

+1 :d

 

[DSpec-xGuNz]

I dont care how terrible it may look, as long as its doing what a spoiler is supposed to do.. all that matters to me

 

[Duman079]

A spoiler is good if youre going over 100 kph. Like in the nurburgring. In small tracks, it can be helpfull and like adavicro said, sometimes max downforce is better then fewest. However they usually dont max it in real, thats why the wings are so high sometimes. I tested my bmw with and without a spoiker, but the spoiler helps me control a car better BUT, when the downforce is high, the car acts strange sometimes if you making a crazy entry on example suzuka aroun 110kmh / 70 mph or something, it flies out of the track lol. So you have to time perfectly. The spoiler on my Honda S2000 allows me to make the corners at suzuka east on 100 / 105+ kph and without it goes 90 95.

 

[Duman079]

Sorry for my grammar, im on my mobile phone.

 

[VolCoMx_x]

I've noticed that to adv lol

 

[RufusGonePunk]

Surely it's a bit of a glitch that aero works whilst cars are going sideways? I can well imagine that downforce in GT5 is calculated only by how fast you are going, not by how much air is moving over the aero devices in the correct direction. Because I can't imagine air flowing over an aftermarket spoiler at >45 degrees is going to do a lot. Also, in my experience there's no loss of downforce whilst following another car closely through turns and NASCARs don't turn into planes whilst travelling backwards at 200mph like they do in real life.

As for the OP's function/form question, I use spoilers on some standard cars, just to make them look a bit more 'drifty'. I very rarely put aero on premiums, in fact I'd love the ability to be able to remove them altogether.

 

[Duman079]

Indeed, it could be nice if you could remove the stock spoiler. A S13,RX7 and R34 could look very nice. But Im happy with it.

 

[Powellx235]

Indeed, it could be nice if you could remove the stock spoiler. A S13,RX7 and R34 could look very nice. But Im happy with it.

All the silvias, not rx7 i dont think.
Did you ever see the yellow d1gp r34? It has a really low spoiler, half offn the boot. You'd think "ugh, its yellow" but i really like it.
But we do need body art 'forget proper name'

 

[Duman079]

Ive saw a RX7 in Amsterdam once in white, no spoiler very low car. And it was damn nice. But it wasnt drifting xD.

 

[HMSMotorsport]

It depends on the track really but yea aero does make a massive difference. On slower speed tracks its good as it slows the car a bit and makes it grip better, however on long tracks like fuji or downhill suzuka its a disadvantage.

I have 2 identical drift cars, one with spoiler and one without for different tracks

 

[RufusGonePunk]

All the silvias, not rx7 i dont think.
Did you ever see the yellow d1gp r34? It has a really low spoiler, half offn the boot. You'd think "ugh, its yellow" but i really like it.
But we do need body art 'forget proper name'

This will probably change your mind:

Edit: And you mean the Bee-R R324 I guess?

 

[Duman079]

Well I dont have to watch porn tonight.

 

[Powellx235]

This will probably change your mind:

Edit: And you mean the Bee-R R324 I guess?

Yeah, it kinda did. But not fully
And unless the paint was changed, thats not it. And that spoiler is stock.

 

[SFX_Adavicro]

Is there even a use for this thread now? Very few on topic posts. 👎

Another car that comes to mind that greatly benefits from added aero is the Spirit R, with the extra downforce that car stays planted and generates a decent amount of extra speed because of it in my opinion.

 

[RufusGonePunk]

Is there even a use for this thread now? Very few on topic posts. 👎

Another car that comes to mind that greatly benefits from added aero is the Spirit R, with the extra downforce that car stays planted and generates a decent amount of extra speed because of it in my opinion.

Over 50% of the posts are on topic. Plus the rest aren't exactly talking about the Top 40 or what they saw at the cinema. Hardly off topic! Haha.

Yeah, it kinda did. But not fully
And unless the paint was changed, thats not it. And that spoiler is stock.

I don't get what you mean by saying that spoiler is stock?

 

[Duman079]

What do you mean ? He asked if it effects the drifting, and he shows drift cars with and without spoilers. RX7 few downforce, and the R32 a lot of downforce. You acting like the popo lol.

Even if its not exact about the drifting and its sleightly off-topic, its still about the cars with and without spoilers. It would be silly to make another thread for that, because it will get locked because its not about GT5 or GT5 Drifting.

 

[RufusGonePunk]

What do you mean ? He asked if it effects the drifting, and he shows drift cars with and without spoilers. RX7 few downforce, and the R32 a lot of downforce. You acting like the popo lol.

Even if its not exact about the drifting and its sleightly off-topic, its still about the cars with and without spoilers. It would be silly to make another thread for that, because it will get locked because its not about GT5 or GT5 Drifting.

Exactly, it was just the healthy evolution of the thread

 

[v13esim]

I dont care how terrible it may look, as long as its doing what a spoiler is supposed to do.. all that matters to me

+1

The rear wing creates downforce, keep the rear of the car more stable, if the car your drifting has oversteer problems or keeps spinning out then increased downforce will help stop those problems

 

[DaveM-sport]

Listen...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfl05j82vpE


now if your still with me and not just in a daze thinking how amazing the 4 rotary sounds, you'll hear Mike saying they left the spoiler off to give less grip to put less strain on the gearbox but he was down a good bit on speed on the corners then.


In GT5, I use one if they look good on a car but try not to use them on cars that they look ****e on unless I'm really struggling for grip.