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do u smoke pot???

  • yes

    Votes: 7 21.9%
  • no

    Votes: 19 59.4%
  • tryed it

    Votes: 7 21.9%

  • Total voters
    32
  • Poll closed .
I don't really get the last paragraph. Are you trying to say that marijuana is good in moderation or are you saying that its good only if you grow it for yourself? Please clarify...

OA
 
Claridfication:

When it's grown, harvested, and sold for money making purposes, it's bad,

When you grow a plant in your basement, for your consumption, and you use it responsibly, I find it no different than brewing a batch of beer in your basement. Hence OK. I'll refrain from using "good".

AO
 
As a person who has smoked enough pot to know what I'm talking about, but who has left it long behind, I feel I should also put my two cents in.

Marijuana is like any other drug, including alcohol and nicotine; no more, no less. It is not evil and it is not harmless, no matter what detractors and supporters may say. It does affect your judgement and actions - or else why would you smoke it in the first place?

It is a stronger drug than nicotine and therefore should be used in moderation and be subject to the same controls as alcohol. THC has slightly less direct effect on things such as reaction time than alcohol does, but it has similar effects on inhibitions and it does affect the quality of your reactions, and does eventually affect the speed as well. Milefile mentioned to events where he was able to function "as if he'd never smoked" when confronted with stress. I will tell you from experience that adrenaline will sober a person up just as quickly from a similar quantity of alcohol or marijuana. Confronted with the same bad news or danger from police, a drinker would function just as well as a smoker assuming they had only lightly consumed, as Milefile had.

AO touched on the subject of marijuana being a 'stepping stone' drug. Of course it is - to a person with an addictive personality. But so is beer a stepping stone to harder liquors to the same type of person. In both cases, you get used to the taste and the effect, and if you are the wrong type of person, your need will drive you towards more consumption and stronger doses/drugs. If you're not that type of person, it won't. I knew a person with a prefectly managed and controlled cocaine habit, too. One person. Unfortunately too many people are the wrong type and both marijuana and alcohol lead to harder use and worse impairment/addiction.

It's not a given that anyone who smokes pot will turn into a futureless dropout. It is no coincidence that many long-term and heavy users of either pot or alcohol are undeveloped both emotionally and intellectually, and are often chronically underemployed. Drinking has exactly the same potential. But it is a given that a person at risk for that kind of behaviour - marginal students, marginal workers - cannot afford to waste the time, effort, and money of having a drug habit. If you don't pay attention at school and don't do your work, then escaping via pot or booze is going to make a bad situation much worse. The need/desire for the next high is a huge, self-made distraction, in a world full of distractions that you can't control.

You can't afford to do that to yourself. Look at dredknot's signature - he complains about not having money, not having a girlfriend - but he's putting even more obstructions and hurdles between himself and those goals. Obviously it bothers him or he wouldn't complain about the situation, but he's not willing to remove the obstructions he can control and concentrate on overcoming those he can't. There are happy winos and happy stoners who don't want any more out of life. But their lives are pretty thin when you look at them.

Why did I quit smoking pot? I got bored with it. I don't drink every night (or even every weekend), either. Simple as that; it never really interefered with my school or work. In my case I realized I was deliberately wasting time and energy getting high or drunk, and I didn't think the benefits were worth it. In fact, beyond the filling of those hours themselves, there were no benefits. All that time and effort was better spent reading, learning, playing my guitar, working on my car, playing games, anything - anything that added to my ability and my knowledge in exchange for the hours and days spent doing it. No matter much fun they may be, alcohol and drugs will never give you that benefit.

A little relaxer once in a while is fine, but habits are habits and as soon as satisfying the habit becomes an end in itself - a goal of its own - it becomes a problem, whether you choose to admit it or not.
 
The key is moderation for most things in a heathy, balanced life style. Yes I've tried it, it was part of my life style back in the day, however, the need for being responsible for my new family presented me with some serious choices. For me marijuana put me in a state of lazyness, although it was great for listening to long periods of Pink Floyd, Bob Marley, Jimmy Cliff, Third World, ect..., it was prone to leave me in one spot for the duration of a day. There was just too much to do, and people depended on me. Such is true for me today as well. Legalize it, but don't critisize it - Peter Tosh, but seriously, I see more harm coming from a alcoholic than I do a pot head, and everything Der Alta said!

~Peace~
 
Originally posted by Pako
The key is moderation for most things in a heathy, balanced life style. Yes I've tried it, it was part of my life style back in the day, however, the need for being responsible for my new family presented me with some serious choices. For me marijuana put me in a state of lazyness, although it was great for listening to long periods of Pink Floyd, Bob Marley, Jimmy Cliff, Third World, ect..., it was prone to leave me in one spot for the duration of a day. There was just too much to do, and people depended on me. Such is true for me today as well. Legalize it, but don't critisize it - Peter Tosh, but seriously, I see more harm coming from a alcoholic than I do a pot head, and everything Der Alta said!

~Peace~

This is my situation exactly. I will have a son in a little over three months and I know things will change. I won't "quit", as in some concerted effort. Things will just change. I will be too busy. I won't even think about it.

A couple months ago my wife and I took a vacation. I didn't bring any with me and with her being pregnant, she'd already stopped. I didn't even think about it the whole time.

The way I smoke is very compartmentalized. I get up at 5:30 and work 9.5 hrs a day. I come home and do whatever needs to be done that day, eat dinner, take a shower, and hang out with my wife. Then, after 10:00 I'll partake and enjoy for an hour or two before bed. I never do it any other time. I used to, but as I get older I get busier; Sunday afternoons aren't what they used to be.

I have to admit I will miss the good ol' days of smoking with my wife and having tickle fights and concocting crazy munchie food, but having a family is going to be a million times more fulfilling than that... and I'm sure my estimation is a million times less than what it will really be like.
 
Congratulations milefile on your fatherhood. You'll find it to be one of the most difficult and most rewarding things you could ever imagine, plus you'll have a v-game partner for life! :D

:cheers:
 
Originally posted by Pako
Congratulations milefile on your fatherhood. You'll find it to be one of the most difficult and most rewarding things you could ever imagine, plus you'll have a v-game partner for life! :D

:cheers:

:D Thank You
 
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