I... don't... get it.

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I read all the Drift Guides I could handle, and I am using Cudaman's FC setup, and I still don't understand it. I just spin in every corner, its just impossible. I am trying to feint, but I can't do it. Can anyone help me :ouch:
 
It takes practice, Don't worry if your crashing every turn, just have to learn how to countersteer and throttle properly, everyone was like this...
 
Personally, you should make your own settings. Not to take anything away from those who made guides, all I know is I didn't need one. The only thing I picked up here at GTP to improve my drifting was the use of simulation tires.

With that said, we all spun out and embarrassed ourselves when we first started drifting. Are you using a wheel or a controller? If it's the latter, what's your setup for throttle and braking? Are you countersteering with the D-Pad or the Analog? We can give you much more detailed advice once we know things like those.

All in all you should keep at it, Drifteen (or at least sign up with a different user name if you really have quit)
 
You gotta calm down ont he throttle. You should jsut have no gas whne the angle gets a bit to big, then cutner steer and when you get it a bit better give it gas.
 
blaster834
Ya to much throttle. Start with the best grip tires then once you can drift with those work your way to sims.
That's one way of learning, but there is still a possibility of spinning out :)

Drifteen, Try to modulate the throttle. Do not keep on flooring it because you will create so much oversteer that your car cannot handle it anymore. Try modulating the throttle. When I started to learn how to drift, one way I know that I have enough angle is when either there is smoke coming from the rear or I hear lots of squealing. Now that I know what my cars can handle, I know how far I can push them.

Welcome to GTP! I hope you enjoy your stay :)
 
actually...the way to get used to drifting is start out stock and get used to manual transmission. then ones you get used to the shifting and throwing in some oversteer in your cornering...buy the sport suspensions. set the front camber 3 degrees and the rear to zero. you'll feel a real good feel of handling when you oversteer with the camber up front. the camber helps you start out the drift and it helps you mantain it throughout. the reason why you bust out nice drifts but end up spinning out is that you dont ease up on the gas to regain grip. you just gotta get used to it...
 
I started with an almost stock sliva, i use the word "stock" cause i bought an lsd and sim tyres for it and just went out and pracitised till i could drift without screwin up on every corner... :) All i am trying to say it just keep at it and dont give up hope because you will get it eventually. Also closely watch videos where it shows the steering and throttle / brake, and try and emulate/ copy what they are doing :) Well good luck to you and i hope we can see some replays of you drifting soon. 👍
 
I suck, bottom line. My friend just laughs at me whenever I 'try' to drift.

I don't mind, I always try out with the FC. Never works though.

[Off topci]: BTW, what does the LSD do?
 
Hey Polarbear, it's ok everyone sucked (well i am pretty sure we all did :dunce: ) when they first got into drifting.

Umm someone else could probly explain what a LSD is better then me, but here i go... It pretty much just enables the wheels to "spin/ rotate" at different speeds when in a corner, because in a corner the inner wheel will be spinning/ rotating at a slower rate than the tyre on the outside, thus if you went and didnt have a lsd installed the tyres would spin at the same speed and the car would want to travel in a straigt line when it's being told to do the opposite.

I honestly hope this help and was correct :dunce: ...
 
Dang he quit inside of 4 minutes of making his first post. That was quick.

Well, if you come back Drifteen. Listen to what everyone else has said cause they're absolutely right!
 
Cheers for that Dan. Makes a lot more sense now.

So from what you've said, I'm assuming different setting will alter how well you turn depending on your tyre and weight etc.?
 
Everbody spins on their first try ;)
I too uses the same FC on my first try. Managed to get it under control after one month.
Yes different tuning will affect how well the car turns.
 
nightkids4ever
my bro is drifting and he is doing good for his second day tries
I'm not surprised. He's got an experienced coach with skills. So yeah, he should be doing pretty well.

Me on the other hand. when my brother and I started we were both horrible....now I own him! LOL! It's pretty cool!
 
Swift
I'm not surprised. He's got an experienced coach with skills. So yeah, he should be doing pretty well.

Me on the other hand. when my brother and I started we were both horrible....now I own him! LOL! It's pretty cool!
well, he likes the settings i made for my skylines and we r doing twin drifts in TM
 
nightkids4ever
well, he likes the settings i made for my skylines and we r doing twin drifts in TM

Cool! Looking forward to some good vids there NK4E 👍
 
Polarbear
I suck, bottom line. My friend just laughs at me whenever I 'try' to drift.

I don't mind, I always try out with the FC. Never works though.

[Off topci]: BTW, what does the LSD do?

I hear its one hell of a trip :dopey:

I'll keep trying, but my deal right now is full counter steering with no throttle at all. Perhaps I am trying to drift with too much speed?
 
Drifteen
I hear its one hell of a trip :dopey:

I'll keep trying, but my deal right now is full counter steering with no throttle at all. Perhaps I am trying to drift with too much speed?

Yes, that's exaclty correct. slow down. Try entering most corners at about 50 or slower. that should help you out. and Blip the throttle, don't just hold it down, You can drift like that, but it takes a lot of practice and quite frankly, isn't as dynamic.
 
Drifteen
I hear its one hell of a trip :dopey:

I'll keep trying, but my deal right now is full counter steering with no throttle at all. Perhaps I am trying to drift with too much speed?
Theres no need to use full coutersteer most of the time unless your going for some large angles, which isn't recommended till you learn how to let the car lose traction comfortably.


Countersteer is something that varies similar to the throttle, sometimes you need a little, sometimes you need more. That all comes with practice though, there is not way to determine how much coutersteer you need. I suggest you stay light on the gas similar to what everyone else has told you, and also try to keep coutersteering light. The more countersteer you give it, the more the car will start to gain control.
 
Dangit....all this talk about your brothers gets me down, *cries* sorry this is an emotional time for me i wish i had a brother who could drift so i could do some twin drifts....

WANTED TO BUY:

BROTHER: drift skills are essential, must be able to drift a mini cooper...coz thats all hes allowed to use.... :dopey: ...will pay generous amount....

o0o0o0o my FF Drift vid is nearly dun :)

Oh and as for drifteen and all those ppl who are new to driftin if you are thinking of giving up it just goes to show you wat skills u really have...ur a quiter...no one is perfect so u shouldnt be ne different...drifting is an aquired skill!

heck im not that good but not once did i think of quitting hell no......

Take it all in bit by bit...u should find its easier learning if u learn each skill independantly...for example learning to countersteer until u feel confortable, then moving on to regulating the acclerator and brakes etc...

try this i dunno if it will help u but it helped me when i first started, it helps get used to counter steer (well it did for me):

buy a nissan 200sx s14 model
upgrage the entire drive train
and buy sim tyres

set the gear box to a relatively close ration (what i did to sorta help figure this out was to open it up on the main straight of just about ne track and adjust the gear box until ur car tops out in top gear just before the end of the straight)
and have the lsd set to 5 for initial and decceleration and say 10 -15 for accelaration...wat this does is increase the cars straight line stability slightly and better accel but not a lot, making the car just a bit harder to get sideways

now im guessing that uve jumped straight in off the deep end and put ur tc down to 0? well just for the sake of getting comfortable set it to 1 and the asm to 0 the reason for this is the when i start to get wheel spin the car will automatically ease off the accelerator to the strength u have the tc set to. so this will still allow u to get the car into a drift for a little while until the tc begins to take effect thus straightening u up and dissabling u from revving the car out and spinning out so easy...u wont be able to hold a drift for long periods of time this is just so u can get comfertable with counter steering then once you are capable of controlling the car gradually work ur way up, like setting the tc to 0 and reducing the lsd accel to 5 and work on accelerator regulation.

a tip for the feint motion technique when u begin trying it again tho...once u feel more comfertable in a drift and u want to tackle this technique buy a brake balance kit and set ur bias to 14 front and 10 rear this giving the front more stopping power . now when u want to try this feint motion start near enuff the middle of the road but closer to the corner ( eg if the corner turns left stay just to the left of centre) the as u approach turn right till there is roughly a .5-1.5cm gap that u can see between the roof and edge of the road, this will only be a slight moment and should place u near enuff the middle of centre and right edge of the track and then flick the stick, wheel, d-pad left and brake this will/should cause the rear of the car to step out slighty then once this happens add enuff power to overcome traction the car should start drifting

ok enuff sed i hope this helps u out...remember with patience and practice ull soon be drifting like a pro.....
 
i don't think anyone has mentioned this before in this thread. you can try to pump the gas slowly. you can also drift a whole corner with out pumping the gas and just use momentum to push you along, but greater speed is required. if you are spinning out in turns, don't use feint. feint just makes it easier to break traction and to get more angle.

about the lsd. check out www.howstuffworks.com. i think it has a good explanation.
 
fwdtamiya
And how does a period help?

Drifteen, you can try another car to drift around with. For me, the FC was hard to drift the first time around. I started out with the RPS13 and then moved onto the FC. It just takes practice to get used to handling the car sideways, that's all.

Trust me: Beautiful things take time to create.
 
Well, if you check my sig, I'm trying to do all of this without buying a car, besides a tuscan and a mercedes, of course. I'll look into a second memory card. I think my 1.5 million I have saved right now could do me some good for drifting cars :)
 
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