I need help with DFGT

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I plugged it in, turned TC off, ABS off. I step about 1/4 of the gas pedal and 1/5 of the brake pedal, my car spins. Is there anyway to tweak the sensitivity?

F12012 on my pc doesnt have this issue though..
 
- Which car, setup (especially the LSD settings), track and tires? The more info, the better. You could try turning ABS on, to start with 👍.
 
- Which car, setup (especially the LSD settings), track and tires? The more info, the better. You could try turning ABS on, to start with 👍.

I tried the mclaren mp4-12c in arcade mode. Spun the moment i tapped on the brakes. I heard there's a way to calibrate the pedal, like stepping on both of them before the game started?
 
Again, which track and tires are you using? And, if you tap the brakes while the wheel calibrates, you'll create a "deadzone", which you should avoid, for GT.
 
Ev0d3vil
I tried the mclaren mp4-12c in arcade mode. Spun the moment i tapped on the brakes. I heard there's a way to calibrate the pedal, like stepping on both of them before the game started?

Use the R/A menu. To adjust the brakes. Try a lower brake bias. No car in real life or in GT5 needs/has a 5/5 bias that is realistic. Try not ABS and 3/1 on the bias on that car
 
I have the same wheel and the same problem. You can turn everything off, just leave abs on 1 and you should be fine.
 
Again, which track and tires are you using? And, if you tap the brakes while the wheel calibrates, you'll create a "deadzone", which you should avoid, for GT.

Tsukuba, racing softs.. The racing softs dont actually spin that much unlike the sports..
 
I plugged it in, turned TC off, ABS off. I step about 1/4 of the gas pedal and 1/5 of the brake pedal, my car spins. Is there anyway to tweak the sensitivity?

F12012 on my pc doesnt have this issue though..

Im guessing this is your first time on a wheel yes?
The first time used my wheel (all aids off, abs at 1) on Tsukuba 2nd turn, I hit the brakes and spin off!
Just keep abs at 1 all the time, and try to break only when your going in a straight line! Any slight steering input as you brake can spin you off as all the weight shifts to the front wheels.
 
1. Turn ABS back on.

2. When you start the car out of the garage in the lobby, as soon as you get some clear track, depress the gas and then brake all the way to calibrate them. You only need to this once each session you turn on the wheel. Once calibrated, it's calibrated until you unplug the wheel again.

3. Find a garage with tunes you like. Look in the tuning forum. I say this because some cars have idiosyncracies that can be tuned out. You could end up driving a difficult to control tail happy car or an understeering slug and think the problem is you and it's not, it's the car. Eliminate that variable. You can go back to driving stock cars later.

4. Start around 400PP on CS tires with a car you like, with a tune from a garage you like, and practice, online, with tire wear on. Tire wear off, is slightly more grip, and offline is still slightly more stable. If you can drive online with tire wear on, you can drive anywhere. Then move up to 450SH, 500SM, 550SS, 600RH etc. These PP/tire combinations provide more than enough grip for consistent driving, but not so much that they overpower the car like throwing RS tires on everything does.

5. Tsukuba is a good track for practice. Deep Forest and Trial Mountain are good for undulations and have a little more grip than most tracks. Road Course Indy for handling big flat tracks and high speed braking.

6. Enjoy yourself!!
 
There's no need to turn ABS on, it's perfectly possible to use the DFGT with ABS off but you need to adjust the brake balance first. 2 front, 0 rear is a good setting to start with and then you can keep adjusting from there. With 5-5 brake balance your rear wheels will lock pretty fast and it will be like trying to brake with the handbrake.
 
Also when I had a DFGT I figured out something when doing abrupt and hard braking without ABS. I ran a high brake bias and when I down shifted I would hit the brake and apply throttle to keep the revs up to allow smoother braking.

Sort of the same method as heal toe down shifting but with out the clutch.
 
The point is that the brake pedal on the DFGT don't have much "pressure resistance" and therefore gives you little feedback of lockups when you are braking without ABS.
As mentioned, lower the brake balance. Don't slam the brakes, but modulate carefully. Also brake in a straight line, and release them before turning.
It will take a lot of practice to get it right.

I know that some people here putting a spunge ball under the brake pedal, to get more resistance.

Good luck :)
 
Turn ABS off, or learn to controll the brake so you dont spin withput abs.

Also, in RA menu, tweak the brake bias, so it is stronger up front, and weaker at the rear.
 
There's no need to turn ABS on, it's perfectly possible to use the DFGT with ABS off but you need to adjust the brake balance first. 2 front, 0 rear is a good setting to start with and then you can keep adjusting from there. With 5-5 brake balance your rear wheels will lock pretty fast and it will be like trying to brake with the handbrake.

You don't "have" to do anything with the game, but if you're trying to master car control for the first time with an inaccurate wheel like the DFGT, you'll be far more successful with ABS on compared to off. Learning on GT5 is like anything else, it's a progression. You slowly build your skill set until what at first seemed impossible, becomes routine, like driving a Yellowbird on Sports Tires with no ABS and a 40-60 weight distribution....like this :sly:, 3/0BB by the way:

 
For the Rental Car upgrade event with the stock Mustang GT my BB was 1/10 with ABS=1. I decided to turn off ABS to see if I could do better without it. 1/10 BB instantly spun me into the wall as soon as I even thought about braking. With ABS=0 I had to change the BB to 3/1 to be able to stop without spinning constantly. This is with a controller and not a wheel but it sounds like the effect is the same. It becomes readily apparent that ABS (even on 1) changes the brake balance you can or have to run by a drastic amount. Once I realized this it was much easier to work with.

Sark
 
I use a DFGT. It sounds like you've got a couple different issues going on.

Assuming you calibrate the pedals, it sounds like some practice with your own pedal input is in order if you're losing traction accelerating with Race Soft tires.

I needed to add some brake pedal resistance in order to get any kind of brake feel for ABS OFF. It was impossible for me to get any "feel" without some simple mods.
 
I put half a styraphobe stress squeezer ball under my brake so it increases the firmness the more you press..
 
Coming from someone who races without aids (except ABS) leave it on

ABS off has more impact on the car than any of the others. Its a whole other beast to tackle

Plus, very very few servers online actually run ABS 0. and the braking distances and turn-in's between 1 and 0 are so different, you'd literally have to re-learn every car and every track
 
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