I want to learn how to drift. teach me please!

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Alright. I want to learn how to drift race. I think i use to drift race pretty well in GT2, but GT2 & GT3 are a little different. The only cars I own right now are the Sprinter Trueno GT-Apex w/ about 210 Hp and a sport suspension. and a newly Acquired Mitsubishi FTO. just tell me what i should do, for settings to start out, it will be very appreciated.

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Amos
P.s. I'm new to the boards and GT planet
 
ok first....Welcome to GTP...next...Drifting isn't about racing, 90% of the time it's slower than grip, so it's kind of pointless, but if you really have your heart set on "race drifting", learn how to Exhibition drift first and then just use grippier tires and you're set.
 
Just to add to Ethix101:

If you want to drift really fast, then you'll have to minimize the countersteer and make sure that there's no smoke coming from the tires. Then that's when you are using the full potential of the traction while drifting.
 
drift racing, exhibition grip, whatever, sorry about that. the point is i want to drift. but how should i set up a car for it, like should the front suspension of the car be stiffer, weaker. sim tires, trac control off. thats what i'm asking, from there i can goof around and find out what works best. then hopfully i'll learn to be good enough as you guys, and put up a video. hopefully:)
 
Originally posted by Thio

If you want to drift really fast, then you'll have to minimize the countersteer and make sure that there's no smoke coming from the tires. Then that's when you are using the full potential of the traction while drifting.
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yeah...that too :lol:
 
What thio and ethix said...

you have to learn how to exhibition drift... on sims escpecially becuase it will teach you how to control the car with throttle and brakeing... Then the next step would be to slap some grippier tires on and minimize tire smoke and squeels except in hairpins or where the speed must be sacrificed for a better line in order to improve times...

I am still learing and improving but i would suggest getting a lower powered mr car that is light... like the speedster :D ( that is what i race with) and then practicing in it first for exhibition drift on sims... then move to slicks and attempt to get fastest times and then after a month or so of racing everyday... bring hte car on slicks to races... when you can win the prof mr races switch to super softs and start trying to improve your lap times with limited tire smoke and stuff... this is what is called four wheel drifting/ throttle steer and should be used in a limited manner...then work on faster lines through corners... and just keep getting faster and faster...
 
Originally posted by Amos420
drift racing, exhibition grip, whatever, sorry about that. the point is i want to drift. but how should i set up a car for it, like should the front suspension of the car be stiffer, weaker. sim tires, trac control off. thats what i'm asking, from there i can goof around and find out what works best. then hopfully i'll learn to be good enough as you guys, and put up a video. hopefully:)
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you could check the Settings Depot for all the cars then you can tweak the settings to fit your driving style. but then again, you can just turn TCS and ASM off and slap on some Sim tires and you're good to go
:) good luck and welcome to the GTP forums, im also pretty new
 
People read what he said...

Anyways i read what you said over again... and if you want to exhibiton drift in races... just slap some super slick on the car and exhibition drift with high hp... But that serves no purpose what so ever...
 
As far as tuning goes, here are some of my experiences:

Springrate: You usually want this pretty high for quick response, the front and rear springrate both also affect how far the rear-end will swing out when you shift your weight, so don't just adjust the rear alone trying to get it to throw out easy.

Dampers: Pretty high in the front to maximize traction. The lower you go in the rear, the quicker the rear-end will come out. I'd adjust the rear after setting springrate & LSD, then drive the car and feel it out. Every car is different, that's the most important thing to remember in tuning.

Camber: Usually a degree or so higher in the front than in the rear. I like to stick with about 4.5 / 3.5. Camber gives you that sort of feeling like you never really have traction even in a straight line, it's almost more unstable but in a good predictable way.

Stabilizers: I found that these prevent side-to-side weight transfer way too much. I always leave my stabilizers at 1 but raising it in the front wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing. In the rear, though, you want that lateral weight transfer for setting in to the drift, linking corners, feint, etc.

Brake balance: I found that this one played a very strange role in the handling of the car. It seemed to affect much more than the brakes to me, in fact I found that a higher setting would often make the car put down more traction somehow and push the car further toward the inside. So if you're having problems with sliding off the course at the exit, you might try playing with this setting. As far as the difference between front and rear, I usually keep them the same, I found that it makes the car more nimble during braking.

LSD: I still have a lot to learn here, but here are some of my thoughts... A higher accel, compared to initial & decel, will increase the initial set-in of the car (assuming it's a RWD). Sort of like the thing about springrate. If this difference is too high for your springrate setting, you will have trouble breaking traction in the rear using the throttle, and the car will fling itself sideways very easily. If it's too low, the throttle won't seem to be able to push the rear-end out enough mid-corner when you're starting to power through the apex. For decel, I usually put this at the same as the initial.

TCS: Hahahaha

ASM: Do I even need to say it?

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Oh yeah, you can check out some of my settings that I use here:
http://pergatory.net/gt3/settings.html
I've been meaning to add to the list of cars but just haven't had the time. Anyway, hope you found some of that info useful.
 

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