iPhone has been announced.

I don't know why they didn't call it iMobile or something.
 
I don't know why they didn't call it iMobile or something.
That'd be dumb.
Or just move away from the iNaming scheme.

Speaking of that, I think that may be happening. iTV has been renamed to [apple]TV, and on several parts on the iPhone page they've also had it named [apple]iPhone. Like this:

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Interesting.

I'll probably still call it 'iPhone' though, much in the same way I still mistakenly call Mac Pros 'Power Macs'. It's just natural to say iPhone.
 
Appleble. iBile (lol, puke.).

[Apple] iPhone is cool, though. I like the little logo as part of the name.
 
Looks like Cisco is following through with its threat to sue Apple over the use of the name iPhone.

Cisco aquired the trademark when they bought Infogear, who originally tradmarked the name iPhone over ten years ago.

I'm surprised Apple didn't settle this before their announcement... this is going to give Cisco a big advantage in any kind of future settlement.


EDIT: Got sidetracked, and by the time I posted this I see others have already chimed in on this topic. :)
 
Apple's marketing worked, I have no need for 95% of what this phone does, I have an iPod, I have a laptop, I have a digital camera, and I don't use a calendar, all I would be doing is making calls on it. Yet, I really want one.

Funny how that works, huh?
 
Cisco is gonna lose the lawsuit. It just will happen. The court will realize that the name wasn't going to be used UNTIL Apple wanted to. I think that Cisco is quite the oppourtunist. :grumpy:

Why is it that iTV is now [apple]TV?
 
Cisco is gonna lose the lawsuit. It just will happen. The court will realize that the name wasn't going to be used UNTIL Apple wanted to. I think that Cisco is quite the oppourtunist. :grumpy:
It isn't that simple, and besides, iPhone was trademarked ten years ago, LONG before Apple went all i(everything) crazy.

Furthermore, I'm fairly certain its not just a matter of owning the trademark, InfoGear was selling iPhones since 1997 and after Cisco acquired InfoGear, they released the latest iPhones as part of their Linksys line of products.

Apple's only hope is a settlement, but seeing as this is an actual product that has been available since 1997, they are going to have to pull off some really impressive negotiations... or pay a serious premium... or switch to "Apple Phone".
 
Pssh... my PSP can do all that and more.


I refuse to be converted....

But PSP doesnt work on security encoded internet... psp cant call people... psp memory sticks and games cost a lot of money...


I HATE YOU, APPLE!!!
 
Today's SF Chronicle has an article by Ellen Lee that does a good job of revealing some of the details on this trademark dispute:

Apple, Cisco gird for battle over iPhone

Trademark dispute leads to lawsuit between Silicon Valley titans

Apple Chief Executive Officer Steve Jobs made a daring, calculated move when he strode onto the stage Tuesday to introduce the iPhone.

Just a week before, the Cupertino technology company's attorneys had been negotiating with their counterparts at Cisco Systems to secure the right to the iPhone trademark, which Cisco has held since June 2000 and uses on the mobile and cordless Internet phones it introduced last month.

The two companies had held on-and-off discussions over the name since 2001, when Apple approached the San Jose networking company. After weeks of discussion in December, Cisco's attorneys felt they were close to a deal and had drafted an agreement.

"We had just one issue left," said Mark Chandler, Cisco's senior vice president and general counsel. "One niche, ancillary issue that was resolvable with one conversation."

Then Monday, the day before Jobs' appearance at the Macworld Conference & Expo in San Francisco, Apple's side went silent, Chandler said.

It's clear what happened next. On Tuesday, Jobs wowed the Apple faithful -- and some of the nonfaithful -- with a sleek, touch-screen cell phone that operates as an iPod and wireless Internet device. It will cost $499 to $599 and will be available in June.

He called it the iPhone. "We are going to reinvent the phone," he told the crowd of 4,000 employees, journalists, analysts and loyal customers.

The next day, Cisco, which even after the announcement thought Apple might sign its agreement, took the gloves off. It sued Apple over the name in U.S. District Court.

"We own the rights to the trademark and they shouldn't be using it," Chandler said.

Apple isn't backing down. Natalie Kerris, a spokeswoman for Apple, called the lawsuit "silly" and said the company is confident it will prevail.

Legal disputes between Silicon Valley technology companies are common, but in this case, the battle pits two stalwarts against each other, transcending a simple trademark dispute. Both companies are headed by high-profile leaders, John Chambers at Cisco, and Jobs at Apple. Both have played a critical role in shaping the technology industry. And both have deep pockets.

"It's an envious technology company feeling they have Apple by the tail," said Gene Munster, an analyst with Piper Jaffray.

Chandler said the agreement hinges on making Apple's iPhone interoperable and has nothing to do with money. Apple is known for creating its own system: Music and movies downloaded from its iTunes online store play only on iPods. The design, Apple says, is necessary to protect copyrighted material and to make its products and services easy to use. But critics say Apple's closed system hurts the growth of the digital media and consumer electronics markets.

Whether this is why Apple balked isn't clear. But it's obvious that Apple opted not to agree to Cisco's demands. It argued that its iPhone is a cell phone, while Cisco's iPhone is an Internet phone. And other companies have used the name iPhone to describe products and services, Apple said, making it a generic name.

While Apple may not own the little "i," it is known for its "i" products, starting with the iMac and continuing with the iPod and iTunes online store to iPhoto, iDVD and iMovie software. That could also come into play.

"Cisco asked for something they couldn't accept and this is a way to get out of it," said Jeff Lindgren, an intellectual property attorney at Morgan Miller Blair in Walnut Creek. "This is high-stakes poker."

Apple is no stranger to such legal wrangling.

It fought over the Apple name with the Beatles' record company, Apple Corps, for years. To this day, Beatles songs are not available on the iTunes music store.

Last year, Apple began going after companies using "pod" to describe their products or as their corporate name, sending cease-and-desist letters and requesting a name change. Podcast Ready, a Texas developer of podcasting software, received the letter in September and is still trying to resolve the matter with Apple.

"I'm kind of disappointed," said Russell Holliman, Podcast Ready's founder and CEO. He owns three Macintosh computers and an iPod and had hoped to work, not fight, with Apple. "Apple began as a startup in someone's garage and that's where we are right now. I've always been a fan of Apple and its culture."

That Apple is now being sued for infringing someone else's name is ironic, Holliman said.

Munster, the analyst with Piper Jaffray, offered 50-50 odds for a name change before the phone is released in June. "Whether you call it an iPhone or something else, it's still the best mobile phone in the world," he said.
 
Pssh... my PSP can do all that and more.

Okay, so you're PSP has a very intuitive touch-screen interface, has widgets, Google Maps, email reading, can make phone calls, etc etc.

Tell me how you did it, and then you'd have just made smartphones a massive gimmick, earning you a gold medal.
 
Looks interesting. The thing I don't like (besides the fact of being an Apple, and yet another one of their products with the "i"something-or-other namesake) is the touch screen. Besides the my skepticism on how it knows what touches are intended or not, it does not seem like a good idea for such a device. Touch screens are inherently delicate, even more so than regular LCDs, and let's face it: everyone drops their cell at one point or another. It doesn't matter how careful you are, it's gonna happen. While most phones, especially flips can take a few good drops with no ill effects, something tells me all it will take is one drop in the parking lot to render this thing toast, what with it's massive, delicate, unprotected screen and all.
It's cool for what is is though: a very expensive gadget with more options than most people will ever need.

And on the Apple vs. Cisco thing: I don't care how many of Apple's products bear the "i", Cisco had an iPhone 6 years before them. Too bad.
 
:lol: You guys are taking Sakiale's comment way too seriously.

He was just trying to convince himself that his PSP can do more than iPhone.
 
Yeah, guys. I just dont' want to admit that apple has again bested every technological marvel that I own, within a year of me acquiring them.
 
DWA
Sprint/SLVR + iPod Video + Low cost = FTW

Wouldn't it be easier to just go with the Motorola Q anyway? Running all the Microsoft gear allows it to do quite a bit, and the big plus will be the connectivity with FordSync in the near future, that is if you do have a Ford that can do it.

I've currently got service from NEXTEL (a subsidiary of Sprint), and although I joined mostly for the NASCAR and direct-connect services, I've pretty much gone without using either of them, and thereby am looking to switch-out at the end of my contract (which I believe is up in March). I won't go back to Verizon (so the Q looks outed), and Sprint is questionable (more trouble for the Q). So, it comes down to Cingular and T-Mobile, and given how much T-Mobile's service sucks in Grand Rapids, I'm left with Cingular by process of elimination. This gives me an opportunity to get the iPhone, theoretically better coverage than what I have now, and possibly get all of it at a cheaper price. Plus, I should get a discount given the current land-line and internet services are through AT&T (owner of Cingular).

We'll see. The Q is a nifty phone, and so too is the iPone. Price and coverage will play a big role here...
 

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