Is anyone else disappointed with GT5?
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- Provence
Have you looked at the layout on the Life screen? It's not easy to use at all. It wouldn't take too much to sort it out. You must have tried to get to one panel on the Life screen and ended up on another? All I want the screen to do is allow me to get to other parts of the game - it doesn't have to look good for me. "What is not a mess"? Well, the layout used for the actual race choices work fine. They don't look particularly bling but they do work as you'd expect. AS for your "x - y" comment, I'm not a kid mate! I can cope with that. When I need to get somewhere slightly between "x - y" that becomes damned annoying. I agree it isn't a deal breaker and as I've already said I think the game itself is excellent, but it could have been better, that's all. It's got that "designed by comittee" look.
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- Flaw3dGenius23
The best driving game i have ever played!!!!
Sadly........
It's one of the worst racing games i have ever played!!!!
Sadly........
It's one of the worst racing games i have ever played!!!!
- 6
At first I loved this game. Iv completed all the a spec beginner, amature and professional events. Iv two races left in expert but need a car like the Mazda 787B which I don't have the money for (no where near enough). I'm going to have to replay hundreds of races now.
B spec is a complete waste of time. I don't want to watch hours of someone else racing. How boring!
And finally the NASCAR races are terrible too. You just get spun out every race.
I'm only level 20 and I'm about finished with the game. Iv nearly finished all special events with at least silver and iv done most licences with at least silver.
This game isn't long enough. I'm really disappointed now
B spec is a complete waste of time. I don't want to watch hours of someone else racing. How boring!
And finally the NASCAR races are terrible too. You just get spun out every race.
I'm only level 20 and I'm about finished with the game. Iv nearly finished all special events with at least silver and iv done most licences with at least silver.
This game isn't long enough. I'm really disappointed now
- 4,323
This is what I have been talking about when I say short on content... there is enough that for the first few weeks it's great fun and you are still playing GT like you did before but it's bound to hit an abrupt end and far too soon.
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- TopGearCanadian
In short - yes.
Long version: I've played GT since the original for PS1 and loved all the previous games. I'm not a fanboy of any brand though, I played Forza 2 and 3 (both released within the same timespan as GT5 development....) and really enjoyed those too. Forza 3 is the obvious comparison to GT5.
First off GT5 just feels so incomplete, which is so unacceptable after such a long development. The standard cars just dilute the package - would have been better off without them and it pisses me off you're forced to use them in some races. Did they even test things out? There's such a huge inbalance in reward and challenge between different races and events. I spend 13 seconds in a nascar event doing a corner and I get $20,000. I spend 7 minutes going around the Nurburghring I get $3000. Really?? No thought went into the progression system, because of it GT5 fails in the game aspect.
Simulation wise I'm quite happy. The cars handle great, it feels right, the weather and time of day changes are good (though F1 2010 kicks the crap out of GT5 with it's weather).
Lack of complete G25/G27 support is laughable considering how many of us use it. Ya I only have to push triangle at the start of the race to enable clutch, but how hard is putting a "choose your wheel" option. Come on.
One of the biggest excitements for me was the Top Gear Test Track. Oh wait - lets make it near impossible in a frustrating as hell challenge that's not fun in the least to unlock it. Real smart. Why not make it beat Tom Cruise's time in the Kia or soemthing like that at least?
Overall there's much I like but it just frustrates me so much sometimes, it's incomplete, wasn't tested properly, it's obvious they screwed around with cool features until finally decided to release it and just threw it quickly together. I would rather have waited until March for something more complete.
Oh and the biggest disappointment of all is easily the damage, lackthereof that is. It takes so much away from the game without it. There's little consequence to punting other cars, flying off a corner etc. I won't ever touch online because of this - in Forza 2/3 if you want real racers you just put damage on full and the kiddies will slam in a wall, blow their engine, cry and leave. Here they can punt you off all they want with little consequence.
The sound just doesn't seem right to me either. Esp the VW GTI - in Forza it sounded JUST like a real one, in GT5 it sounds like every other car of the same size /class.
Cars themselves I don't think are that much better than Forza 3 either. VW GTI Mk V again - if you look at the headlight on a real one there's a little VW logo on the front of the headlight bulb itself - in Forza 3 that's modelled in 3D! GT5 I can't even see if it's there.
Oh and the AI is as drone like as ever. Gotta love when an AI attaches itself to your bumper and doesn't let off until you're either both stuck against some wall or they've spun you off the course. Forza 3 AI has awareness of you and other cars and comes across as far more convincing. When you do repeat events the AI is so robotic you can predict what they do in every turn every single time.
Soundtrack is the usual terrible stuff we've had since GT3 on. First thing I do is turn all music off (except cheesy menu music which is just GT charm lol). It's amazing how the crap song they use in the intro video just kills any excitement in it lol. Don't really care though, normally shut music off in racing sims/games, the engines are what I want to hear.
The pluses: lots of good tracks esp the real world ones, and it's fun driving around the classics again too, the special events can be fun and add variety to the game, premium cars are pretty good.
I'll keep playing it, I do enjoy it for the most part, but I really hope PD does some major upgrades to bring it up to par. Right now it seems GT fans in general will enjoy it but anyone new to the genre probably won't be too impressed.
Long version: I've played GT since the original for PS1 and loved all the previous games. I'm not a fanboy of any brand though, I played Forza 2 and 3 (both released within the same timespan as GT5 development....) and really enjoyed those too. Forza 3 is the obvious comparison to GT5.
First off GT5 just feels so incomplete, which is so unacceptable after such a long development. The standard cars just dilute the package - would have been better off without them and it pisses me off you're forced to use them in some races. Did they even test things out? There's such a huge inbalance in reward and challenge between different races and events. I spend 13 seconds in a nascar event doing a corner and I get $20,000. I spend 7 minutes going around the Nurburghring I get $3000. Really?? No thought went into the progression system, because of it GT5 fails in the game aspect.
Simulation wise I'm quite happy. The cars handle great, it feels right, the weather and time of day changes are good (though F1 2010 kicks the crap out of GT5 with it's weather).
Lack of complete G25/G27 support is laughable considering how many of us use it. Ya I only have to push triangle at the start of the race to enable clutch, but how hard is putting a "choose your wheel" option. Come on.
One of the biggest excitements for me was the Top Gear Test Track. Oh wait - lets make it near impossible in a frustrating as hell challenge that's not fun in the least to unlock it. Real smart. Why not make it beat Tom Cruise's time in the Kia or soemthing like that at least?
Overall there's much I like but it just frustrates me so much sometimes, it's incomplete, wasn't tested properly, it's obvious they screwed around with cool features until finally decided to release it and just threw it quickly together. I would rather have waited until March for something more complete.
Oh and the biggest disappointment of all is easily the damage, lackthereof that is. It takes so much away from the game without it. There's little consequence to punting other cars, flying off a corner etc. I won't ever touch online because of this - in Forza 2/3 if you want real racers you just put damage on full and the kiddies will slam in a wall, blow their engine, cry and leave. Here they can punt you off all they want with little consequence.
The sound just doesn't seem right to me either. Esp the VW GTI - in Forza it sounded JUST like a real one, in GT5 it sounds like every other car of the same size /class.
Cars themselves I don't think are that much better than Forza 3 either. VW GTI Mk V again - if you look at the headlight on a real one there's a little VW logo on the front of the headlight bulb itself - in Forza 3 that's modelled in 3D! GT5 I can't even see if it's there.
Oh and the AI is as drone like as ever. Gotta love when an AI attaches itself to your bumper and doesn't let off until you're either both stuck against some wall or they've spun you off the course. Forza 3 AI has awareness of you and other cars and comes across as far more convincing. When you do repeat events the AI is so robotic you can predict what they do in every turn every single time.
Soundtrack is the usual terrible stuff we've had since GT3 on. First thing I do is turn all music off (except cheesy menu music which is just GT charm lol). It's amazing how the crap song they use in the intro video just kills any excitement in it lol. Don't really care though, normally shut music off in racing sims/games, the engines are what I want to hear.
The pluses: lots of good tracks esp the real world ones, and it's fun driving around the classics again too, the special events can be fun and add variety to the game, premium cars are pretty good.
I'll keep playing it, I do enjoy it for the most part, but I really hope PD does some major upgrades to bring it up to par. Right now it seems GT fans in general will enjoy it but anyone new to the genre probably won't be too impressed.
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No changeable gear ratios <=== Was this meant as a bad joke?
Not fully adjustable suspension <=== Another bad joke..
Standard cars cant even change rims,thats just totally odd.
No Manufacter Races anymore kinda sucks to along with super ****** prize cars..
Level system is kinda unbalanced imo.
Special challenges earn alotta exp and money,while harder races earn less..
I can go on and on,but I still,Im enjoyin this game to the fullest!
Not fully adjustable suspension <=== Another bad joke..
Standard cars cant even change rims,thats just totally odd.
No Manufacter Races anymore kinda sucks to along with super ****** prize cars..
Level system is kinda unbalanced imo.
Special challenges earn alotta exp and money,while harder races earn less..
I can go on and on,but I still,Im enjoyin this game to the fullest!
If GT5 10/10, GT 4 must not be higher than 5/10
GT5 is amazing progress over WORST GAME EVER with label "simulator" called GT4, totally worth 5 years of making.
At least now we have something which reminds physics and different driving cars, not 3 cars with 800 different models which drives exactly opposite compare to what they supposed to do in real life.
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- IceManPJN
- IceMan PJN
A bit, but I still like it. It falls a bit short in several places, so I agree with the review ratings coming out in the mid to upper 80s, but that's still a good score for a game. If another 200 of the Standard cares were instead Premium, if there was a cockpit view for all 1031 cars, and a few other little things here and there, I'd go with something in the lower 90s.
After attempting the NASCAR special challenges for the better part of an hour now, with a controller (my wheel broke), I think I concluded 3 things.
1. Kazunori Yamauchi is a giant liar, because there is no way in the frozen expanse of hell that he golded these with a controller
2. NO Q/A time was spent testing these challenges with a controller
3. If I ever meet Jeff Gordon I will punch him square in his face.
1. Kazunori Yamauchi is a giant liar, because there is no way in the frozen expanse of hell that he golded these with a controller
2. NO Q/A time was spent testing these challenges with a controller
3. If I ever meet Jeff Gordon I will punch him square in his face.
I LOVE the game. Yeah, of course it's not the game we expected and some of the content seems to be half-finished but in the end, it still has that perfect driving experience that no other game has and I'll purchase/play every Gran Turismo that Polyphony makes. Gran Turismo equals Pure Simulation. That's enough for me.
- 6,139
- Simcoeace
1) I think if GT5 had come out a year & a half or 2 years ago, there would far less sense of disappointment. The disappointment comes from the apprehension that it could be another 5 or 6 years before the next installment of GT arrives, which means we could be stuck with what GT5 offers for years to come. If PD fixes a lot of the niggling issues with GT5 over the next 6 months everyone will feel a lot better.
2) The AI has to be the central gripe: yes, it's a little improved over GT5P which was a little improved over GT4, but it's still a long way from competing with many other, far "smaller" racing games on consoles & PC. It really feels as though, for whatever reason, it's not a major interest of KY.
3) I can't understand the logic of spending time premium modeling cars like the Prius. For every Prius-type car modeled in premium, some other (sexier) car was left out.
4) More time should have been spent on the basic gameplay structure & AI & less time modeling 1000 cars. It would have made more sense to add cars later through either unpaid or paid DLC, rather than having to fix fundamental issues through DLC.
5) It seems entirely reasonable to compare GT5 with Forza - it's the ONLY other big budget console racing sim out there. Again, where GT5 may measure up well against Forza 3 in many areas, there will certainly be a Forza 4 by the end of next year, & quite likely a Forza 5 before the arrival of GT6. How well will GT5 stack up against those?
2) The AI has to be the central gripe: yes, it's a little improved over GT5P which was a little improved over GT4, but it's still a long way from competing with many other, far "smaller" racing games on consoles & PC. It really feels as though, for whatever reason, it's not a major interest of KY.
3) I can't understand the logic of spending time premium modeling cars like the Prius. For every Prius-type car modeled in premium, some other (sexier) car was left out.
4) More time should have been spent on the basic gameplay structure & AI & less time modeling 1000 cars. It would have made more sense to add cars later through either unpaid or paid DLC, rather than having to fix fundamental issues through DLC.
5) It seems entirely reasonable to compare GT5 with Forza - it's the ONLY other big budget console racing sim out there. Again, where GT5 may measure up well against Forza 3 in many areas, there will certainly be a Forza 4 by the end of next year, & quite likely a Forza 5 before the arrival of GT6. How well will GT5 stack up against those?
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- Cory Gillmore
I had a lot of gripes at first but they've all just kinda melted away the more I play and the more expensive cars I get to own. Now, my biggest gripe is just how much everything costs. LMP cars shouldn't cost over 5,000,000. It took me all weekend of racing probably 10 hours a day to get up to 5 million credits. The thought of me spending all that work on one car is excruciating. LMP cars should really cost about 2,000,000. They shouldn't cost more than that and neither should any other car in the game except maybe the super rare old school Jag and 330 Ferrari. But they sure as hell shouldn't cost 20,000,000. 20 million credits is just craziness. I don't understand it.
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- Cumberland, BC
- GTP_BlacqueJack
Grinding for credits is my beef; and the load time to re-try a special event-so I just settle for bronze or silver for now 
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Grinding for credits is my beef; and the load time to re-try a special event-so I just settle for bronze or silver for now
I wish there was an option to restart any event regardless of how well you did or if you finished so you woudln't have to reload...
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- Provence
I'll second this.
Was a massive gt fan, always have been but gt5 has hit a new low in racing games, never have i waited so long to be so dissapointed by a game, how did it take so long to make a game with basically most of the same tracks its always had, hundreds of cars i wouldn't want to drive in a million years, quite possibly the worst music in any game i have ever played, loading screens that make fallout look quick, the same predictably boring stupid ai drivers, exactly the same racing series and exactly the same licenses as in all the others is it just me or couldnt they have tried to make a new game that tries to keep up with the competiion, have they played forza,grid, F1 to mention a few, all i can say is i'm glad i didnt fork out £150 for what is essentially every other gt game i ever played now we can wait another 5 years so they can bring the same game out again but slightly better looking with hundreds of crap japanise cars nobody has ever heard of never mind wanted to drive wakey wakey sony gone from the best to the worst. Forza 4 is on its way and bearing in mind forza 3 is miles better than gt5 i think they have got it in the bag.. really dissapointed gt fan.
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- Sarajevo, B&H
- eSTiPe
...kinda I'm too a little disappointed with GT5. Still it is a great game, but somehow it let me feel like it is unfinished game (specially when we speak about GT serial). It is like one great mod (mods for PC) that is in making so long and in the end it feel great but there are some really annoying bugs. I can talk a lot what I like and what not about GT5 but that is not the point. The point is just that GT5 feels unfinished and also I have opinion that Kaz wanted to please 'everyone' but was lost what in the end he (Kaz) he wanted with the game.
So, so many compromises that in the end I'm not happy about but it is a GT so I will must live with that for another 4-6 years and hope that next time GT6 will be a lot (A LOT) better that GT5.
I will still try to enjoy in game as much as possible and look it from brighter side rather than darker (which is seems that many watch it like that).
...and that all from me (atleast for now
)
So, so many compromises that in the end I'm not happy about but it is a GT so I will must live with that for another 4-6 years and hope that next time GT6 will be a lot (A LOT) better that GT5.
I will still try to enjoy in game as much as possible and look it from brighter side rather than darker (which is seems that many watch it like that).
...and that all from me (atleast for now
)
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- BC
The grinding in this game is bothersome. My main goal is just to have all tracks and cars unlocked in arcade mode for me to fire up whenever I want. That's all I want out of GT5. Race X car on X track while having the ability to spend cash upgrading them. Also do a bit of photography in arcade mode. I'm not going to waste my time on stupid challenges in GT mode when I can actually have fun driving in arcade mode.
Come to think of it.....Are all tracks available in arcade mode at the onset? I won't mind racing events just for credits to buy cars and parts for them in GT mode. I found a post where you can make 70,000cr in like 3 minutes, hell I'll just keep racing that to earn money.
I don't care about the Top Gear test track stupid tests, and other nonsense. I just want to race. HUDD off would be awesome but we all know about that fiasco.
Come to think of it.....Are all tracks available in arcade mode at the onset? I won't mind racing events just for credits to buy cars and parts for them in GT mode. I found a post where you can make 70,000cr in like 3 minutes, hell I'll just keep racing that to earn money.
I don't care about the Top Gear test track stupid tests, and other nonsense. I just want to race. HUDD off would be awesome but we all know about that fiasco.
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- ubergill
I think as a single player racer - its the best there is - however, the online offering feels a decade out and the grinding needed in later levels just isn't much fun.
I actually think this could possibly be down to the developers being Japanese, who don't really go in for social gaming and love the grind.
It's not a million miles away. The annoying thing is they could have made it a classic just by looking at/copying how Forza's online and custom races is packaged.
I actually think this could possibly be down to the developers being Japanese, who don't really go in for social gaming and love the grind.
It's not a million miles away. The annoying thing is they could have made it a classic just by looking at/copying how Forza's online and custom races is packaged.
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Are there any news of the update? How difficult is it to place a hood view?
Apart from the jaggies, my only issue so far is it seems too easy and would appear to be quite short, I'm not that far in but that's the impression I get.
GT4 seemed like it would take forever to "complete" while this looks feasible to do so in a reasonably short amount of time!
GT4 seemed like it would take forever to "complete" while this looks feasible to do so in a reasonably short amount of time!
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