Jules Bianchi passes away following accident at 2014 Formula 1 Japanese Grand Prix

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prisonermonkeys
The source of Rosberg's irritation is obvious - Mercedes' ridiculous decision to let public opinion dictate their driver management. The team came under massive public and media pressure to treat Hamilton "more equally", even though they already had the policy of letting them race in place. Mercedes listened to it, started supporting Hamilton more, and Rosberg lost out when he should not have. He was clearly faster than Hamilton in Hungary, and obviously didn't want to jeopardise his race or Hamilton's with a risky pass. He only started to fall behind when his tyres went off. Hamilton stood to lose nothing by letting him through, since Rosberg had to pit again, but he refused. Afterwards, the team publicly applauded Hamilton, even though in everyone's interests to have him let Rosberg through. Hamilton cost them a potential 1-2, and Mercedes gave in to public pressure afterwards.
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yes he did, because If rosberg had of went past he would of been able to get by Hamilton in the next round no issue.
 
Only one way to sort this out...

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LOL, that's right! Having no "side" in this makes me just want to enjoy the show, in the hope we won't be robbed again by unreliability for either side
 
OctopusPine
Yes because every time Nico tries to pass him, Lewis edges him off the track.
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Not sure what you're trying to say here. I've only seen fair fighting from both of them and if he had been repeatedly pushing Nico off the circuit then the stewards would be getting involved.

OctopusPine
But don't try and make it out to be a lack of skill or racecraft on Nico's behalf. Because that is a load of nonsense!
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I agree it's not a lack of skill or race craft, he just hasn't overtaken Lewis they way that Lewis has overtaken him. No nonsense, just facts.
 
Hun200kmh
LOL, that's right! Having no "side" in this makes me just want to enjoy the show, in the hope we won't be robbed again by unreliability for either side
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Think yourself lucky. I've apparently got a side simply because of my nationality, despite the fact I can't stand Hamilton's whining and petulance.
 
prisonermonkeys
Why is it that Hamilton fans always make out that Rosberg has his back to the wall? Especially in qualifying - which is weird, because Rosberg's problems this year have been the result of mechanical failures. The only time he made a mistake was in Monza, and I seriously doubt that he folded under pressure from Hamilton. It's Hamilton who has been making the most mistakes this year - in Canada, Austria and Britain in particular. Moreover, he has a tendency to make more mistakes when under pressure, like in 2011.

Rosberg might be four points behind, but he's got the advantage psychologically.
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see this is someone who follows a driver soo closely he forgets about anyone else.

Hamilton has been the better driver this year out of the two when you take out things that are out of each drivers hands.

first of all All 2 of Rosbergs 4 wins have came off the back of mechanical failures on Lewis's side that didn't give him a Fair shot at the Victory.
the 3rd came from.the questionable Monaco Antics in qualifying, not saying he did it on purpose or not but that took Lewis's best chance to win out of the equation at a track thats impossible to pass unless the guy ahead makes a mistake.

and the 4th was the first and only win Rosberg has gotten from a Hamilton driver Error at Austria.

Now when you add up the Errors from Rosberg in Malaysia, China, Belgium and Italy combined with the direct Battles with Hamilton in Bahrain, Spain, Canada in which for the duration they where in direct compeition Hamilton was ahead and won them all.

its clearly obvious that Rosberg is at a Disadvantage.

Rosberg has had two direct Retirements that both resulted in Hamilton wins at Silverstone and Singapore, but that still doesn't equal the points lost by Hamilton due to issues of no fault.


Im not a fan boy I don't Really care about either driver but I hate when people push lies to support their agenda.
 
Famine
Think yourself lucky. I've apparently got a side simply because of my nationality, despite the fact I can't stand Hamilton's whining and petulance.
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Everybody knows you are a JB man through and through, so that nationality must not be entirely irrelevant ;)
 
Hun200kmh
Everybody knows you are a JB man through and through, so that nationality must not be entirely irrelevant ;)
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Everyone likes Jenson though, surely? Aside from the occasional tactical bitching over the years and the paddock resentment he caused with the legal battle in his earlier, stupider years, he's a good, honest(ish) driver with sound racecraft and a good driving style to watch and aspire to.

I like Ricciardo too.
 
axletramp
Not sure what you're trying to say here. I've only seen fair fighting from both of them and if he had been repeatedly pushing Nico off the circuit then the stewards would be getting involved.
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As I said in my original comment, they both do it. So nobody can complain. But it's rather unfair to claim one driver cannot pass another, when the defending driver can put them at such a disadvantage.

axletramp
I agree it's not a lack of skill or race craft, he just hasn't overtaken Lewis they way that Lewis has overtaken him. No nonsense, just facts.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't happen to recall Lewis pulling off any 'killer' moves on Nico this year. Nico pratically gave the lead to Lewis on a silver platter in Monza, when admittedly he cracked under the pressure and ran off. And he's passed Rosberg in the pits once or twice. But that's it.

I'm going to add I believe that Monza is the only time so far this season, that Rosberg has genuinely cracked under pressure. Yes, he's locked up and ran off the track many times this season. But so has Hamilton. They've both been having some trouble with brakes this year, just like the rest of the field. Seeing as the braking systems this year are different to previous seasons, it's hardly surprising.
 
OctopusPine
As I said in my original comment, they both do it. So nobody can complain. But it's rather unfair to claim one driver cannot pass another, when the defending driver can put them at such a disadvantage.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't happen to recall Lewis pulling off any 'killer' moves on Nico this year. Nico pratically gave the lead to Lewis on a silver platter in Monza, when admittedly he cracked under the pressure and ran off. And he's passed Rosberg in the pits once or twice. But that's it.

I'm going to add I believe that Monza is the only time so far this season, that Rosberg has genuinely cracked under pressure. Yes, he's locked up and ran off the track many times this season. But so has Hamilton. They've both been having some trouble with brakes this year, just like the rest of the field. Seeing as the braking systems this year are different to previous seasons, it's hardly surprising.
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Canada, and Bahrain.

Also keep in mind out of Rosbergs 4 wins Hamilton was only given a geniune shot at 1 without things out of his control stopping his abillity to win and thats Austria.
 
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OctopusPine
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't happen to recall Lewis pulling off any 'killer' moves on Nico this year.
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Ok, Bahrain for one.

EDIT: tree'd. :lol:

And who mentioned 'killer moves'? Please stop trying to make an argument that isn't there.
 
axletramp
Ok, Bahrain for one.

EDIT: tree'd. :lol:

And who mentioned 'killer moves'? Please stop trying to make an argument that isn't there.
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My apologies for using quotations marks in a daft way; I wasn't actually trying to quote anyone when I said that. I was simply trying to put more emphasis on the word. In reply to your comment that Nico 'hasn't overtaken Lewis they way that Lewis has overtaken him', I was trying to say that Hamilton hasn't wiped the floor with Rosberg on track either.
 
Pole position might be very important this weekend. If the rain is heavy enough, as it's suppose to be all day Sunday, they only need 2 laps behind the safety car for half points to be awarded.
 
Super Fomula is one of the fastest feeder series out there - it's quicker than GP2 and Formula Renault 3.5. Also, the teams haven't done a qualifying simulation yet, so Rosberg's FP1 times aren't really representative.

The real mystery here is why James Rossiter is so surprised at Formula 1 being slow.
 
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Is there any news yet about the start of qualifications and/or the race being earlier?
 
prisonermonkeys
They have always intended to keep to the schedule - they will only change if they have to.
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That's why I ask it. Seeing that there is a crapload of rain heading towards Japan and this is my main source for Formula 1 info.
 
Today should be okay; the rain isn't expected until late tomorrow. They're looking at bringing the race forward a few hours, but Honda - who own the circuit - have already ruled out a Saturday race because they would gave to refund a lot of tickets.
 
Tintorera
Found some comments on Twitter today about F1 vs Super Formula lap times on Suzuka.
Lotterer´s qualy time is apparently only 1,4 sec off Rosbergs FP1 time.

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What I was amazed about how slow F1 has become is when the dominant Mercedes team at Spanish GP this year failed to set a lap time in the race as fast as a 6 year old GP2 car with Grosjean as driver managed in a race on the same track. Now that is old technology with a small percentage of the budget of a backmarker team in F1, hard to believe in a way as the cars in F1 look so complex in design and have a big horsepower advantage yet so slow.

I can see why Adrian Newey wants to do different things when it is so hard to make a car as fast as an old Dallara chassis car while spending a lot more money with technology out there that could allow to make something like the X2014 instead. It will be interesting though if any 'lower' formula series try and make their series faster than current F1 or even considerably faster while at a very low cost.
 
The Aero Rules need to be relaxed, To get similar speeds as before, but i would expect next year the cars will be over a second faster at minimum just from engine Evolution.
 

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