Jules Bianchi passes away following accident at 2014 Formula 1 Japanese Grand Prix

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Hun200kmh
I think the picture Taki Inoue shared yesterday on Twitter (to which I have no objection, nothing graphic about it, all I see is a doctor attending to Bianchi and holding his head/helmet) gives us a hint that the helmet didn't suffer a direct impact and remained structurally intact. Considering that Bianch hit the crane head-on and that the front of his car actually "lifted" the back of the crane, I guess we may assume that it was the weight of Sutil's car that avoided a much more horrible crash.

Considering the (apparent, from the "doctor" photo) structural integrity of Bianchi's helmet, one can only assume that either something else (not the side of the crane) impacted the helmet without destroying it (like a wheel, as was the case with Henry Surtees), or that is was simply the overall number of Gs of the deceleration that caused the trauma.
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As far as I could see, the elevated cockpit sides looked more or less intact, which would explain minimal damage to his helmet. If he didn't have these, he didn't have any chances at all I think...
 
Horrible accident!

It reminds me Senna's accident in the way how the car seems to go full speed head on to tractor. Could that be purely explained from aqua planning? Or could it indicate something else like a throttle malfunction or brakes problem, or even something regarding Bianch 'so health?
 
Wouldn't say it was good news, but better news that what it could be. Hoping for another update tomorrow morning Japanese time maybe.
 
NixxxoN
I didnt know the forum rules were sooooooo strict. I saw that fatal crashes are not allowed to be posted but Bianchi's crash, as far as I know it hasnt been fatal.
I dont understand this, people have the choice to watch it or not. And for example Senna fatal accident has been watched like a billion times and other F1 fatal crashes too.


Please, dont go over the top... I am "bad" for posting the accident? Please... I tried to put in big size font that it was the real accident footage just in case sensitive people wont want to watch it... but anyway, lets move on
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American mind, we are evil because of showing these videos
You pointed out the whole hypocrisy about Senna death video sequence
Its the freedom whether to watch and not to watch, to feel sorry for the loss of driver (i hope not from the deep of my heart as long as he is going to fight) or being not (some people would not really pay attention to it, just watch/read it and that's it, they move on)
 
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Hun200kmh
Considering the (apparent, from the "doctor" photo) structural integrity of Bianchi's helmet, one can only assume that either something else (not the side of the crane) impacted the helmet without destroying it (like a wheel, as was the case with Henry Surtees), or that is was simply the overall number of Gs of the deceleration that caused the trauma.
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The crash was a glancing side impact, although the tractor was slowly backing up at the time and Bianchi hit its rear hard while travelling very fast. So it's good that the helmet appeared still intact but clearly it was a hard hit against the solid metal underside. At least he didn't go "under" it in the way I would picture from that preposition, just in the sense that the protruding rear end is higher than the car (and the impact force lifted the tractor off the ground). Sickening.

The most horrifying thing though is the green flag waving while a tractor was still in harm's way with a crashed car attached, WTF? Keep the yellow until the entire corner runoff is clear. Especially in a wet race!
 
bullie77
Horrible accident!

It reminds me Senna's accident in the way how the car seems to go full speed head on to tractor. Could that be purely explained from aqua planning? Or could it indicate something else like a throttle malfunction or brakes problem, or even something regarding Bianch 'so health?
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It was identical to Sutils accident, accept Bianchi's car didn't spin.
 
neljack
It is pretty difficult to watch too.
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Umm as I said you are not forced to watch it.
Famine
Let's hope it doesn't, but if it does turn out to be, who do you think then has to go round the site clearing it up?

There's also a reason it hasn't been shown on TV. Let's wait until Jules recovers before we start posting the crash that could have killed him.More people have watched porn. We don't allow that either.
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Well, I'll go to a censorship-free forum to talk about this specific topic then... see you in the GT6 section guys.
 
ultimate
American mind
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I am not American.
ultimate
we are evil because of showing these videos
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Actually, no-one said that. Someone asked if you were ignorant, because you seemed to have ignored a moderator posting not to post the video and two instances of the video being removed, one only 5 posts before yours.

Blaming Americans for you not paying attention does not speak well for your character, however.
NixxxoN
Well, I'll go to a censorship-free forum to talk about this specific topic then...
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Good luck finding one. Most sites have rules that you agree to when you join.


Perhaps we can continue to discuss Jules Bianchi and the Grand Prix rather than creating voyeurism for a video that hasn't been released into the public domain out of respect for the driver and making the topic about users who wish to post it? Just a thought.
 
Famine
Good luck finding one. Most sites have rules that you agree to when you join.
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I know not one but three. In fact I found the video link in one of these
 
Fryto
As far as I could see, the elevated cockpit sides looked more or less intact, which would explain minimal damage to his helmet. If he didn't have these, he didn't have any chances at all I think...
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A little bit larger and more forward and this could possibly be far less worse.

My main fear is another repeat of what happened to Schumi. I hope an induced coma will never occur.

My other question to all this, who will be reserve? Will they race reserve?
 
NixxxoN
I know not one but three. In fact I found the video link in one of these
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Yes, I'm sure they're all entirely without rules or censorship of any kind, which not even /b/ is any more.

Incidentally, that'll be a "no" then? I can make it an instruction if you'd prefer.
 
Swagger897
A little bit larger and more forward and this could possibly be far less worse.

My main fear is another repeat of what happened to Schumi. I hope an induced coma will never occur.

My other question to all this, who will be reserve? Will they race reserve?
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Most likely Rossi will cover.
 
bullie77
Horrible accident!

It reminds me Senna's accident in the way how the car seems to go full speed head on to tractor. Could that be purely explained from aqua planning? Or could it indicate something else like a throttle malfunction or brakes problem, or even something regarding Bianch 'so health?
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Which Senna? The only Senna I can think of who hit a tractor head-on was my biker friend, Dave Senna.

Or is this the beginning of some spurious link to Maria De Villota's accident despite all the causal evidence pointing to something else?

The incident can be explained purely by aquaplaning - look at the speed Sutil arrived at despite having aquaplaned at a comparatively low speed.
 
10-80-1 why the poking, of course Bullie77 meant the similarity with Ayrton Senna going full speed into a wall. It's the "full speed crash" and not the "on to tractor" bit that matters.

Now, I'm also puzzled by the fact that it was a frontal impact. I suppose the FIA will never release the onboard video, but I can't understand how it happened that way.
 
At a guess, the rear of the car slipped as he started turning left, and Bianchi automatically counter-steered. Similar to how Ricciardo went off in practice.
 
Hun200kmh
10-80-1 why the poking, of course Bullie77 meant the similarity with Ayrton Senna going full speed into a wall. It's the "full speed crash" and not the "on to tractor" bit that matters.

Now, I'm also puzzled by the fact that it was a frontal impact. I suppose the FIA will never release the onboard video, but I can't understand how it happened that way.
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Because the crash wasn't at "full speed", that's just something he suggests when he wonders if the accelerator jammed. No witnesses have said that the car reached anything like "full speed".

And nothing about the accident - not one detail - reminds me of the Senna crash, just my opinion. I poked back at the post because I felt it made a number of incorrect assumptions from which I inferred the beginnings of some "all is not as it seems!" idea.
 
Hun200kmh
10-80-1 why the poking, of course Bullie77 meant the similarity with Ayrton Senna going full speed into a wall. It's the "full speed crash" and not the "on to tractor" bit that matters.

Now, I'm also puzzled by the fact that it was a frontal impact. I suppose the FIA will never release the onboard video, but I can't understand how it happened that way.
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I imagine eventually it will be released somehow... (que the iCloud mastermind). However, I don't think much will come out of it as the entire top half of the car was sliced off.

Fryto
I think that would limit lateral visibility too much.
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I looked at some of the current setups that were used at Suzuka and Marussia and Mercedes seem to be the two which would be most safe for that accident (as in the sidewalls next to the drivers head seems to be the tallest, with the RB10 the lowest). It seems like anymore would cut off the visibility as you said. But somehow there must be more concealment for the drivers...
 
Solid Lifters
Another website I go to had a poster who is 'on the inside' of the sport. He said, that Bianchi is brain dead and they're waiting for family to decide what to do. Pull the plug and donate organs.

I hope it's BS.
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I don't know a lot about this, but he is breathing the whole time all by himself without support. Is that even possible to do when he would be brain dead?
 
Vinylshark
I don't know a lot about this, but he is breathing the whole time all by himself without support.
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No he isn't.
 
That isn't official, either. Neither of the official reports appear to mention reports either way on the breathing situation.
 
The idea occured to me this morning .

(With all respect and all) With Bianchi's season over even if Marussia race the rest of the season or dont out of respect of Jules retire his car or if not there gonna need another driver.

And Alexander Rossi popped into my head since he signed on not long ago.
 
Just saw that video of him crashing into it.

He crash with such force that the JCB got a little airborne
 
Grayfox
Just saw that video of him crashing into it.

He crash with such force that the JCB got a little airborne
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Did you notice the flags? Double waved yellow to green to single yellow plus safety car sign.

He must have hit that recovery vehicle at 60mph at least, very lucky it was glancing blow.

It raised the rear end about 2 feet clean off the ground - it amazed me that he survived the impact to be operated on.
 
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