Just Realized GT5 Features the world's deadliest tracks...

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I don't know these statistics but good observation.
 
Where would Imola fit into the list, because I think there has been a few fatalities there over the years.
 
crazy post. Never thought of it




havent seen this before, thanks

ZeGermanBastorD
I've never heard about the 1955 Le Mans disaster, till now. According to wikipedia it's "the most catastrophic accident in motorsports history". :eek:

And i am very surprised that you can find a record of it on youtube, after more than 50 years now:




Unbelievable that there got 83 spectators killed, by a car. I would understand if it was by a airplane like in the 2 worst air show accidents, Sknyliv airshow disaster, 27 July 2002, Lviv/Ukraine & Rammstein airshow disaster, August 28, 1988, Rammstein/Germany, but it was "only" a car, omg. :scared:


Btw. there is also a long version about the Sknyliv airshow disaster in the web, just google for "Sknyliv airshow disaster" & you'll find it. It was too shocking to post it here, really a nightmare. :nervous:
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What happened at the LeMans disaster was one of the Jaguars went to pass a Mercedes SL300 coming onto the straight, and then the Jag, like an idiot, cut right in front of the Merc to enter the pits, and the Mercedes driver had no where to go. The Merc launched off the back the Jag, hit the embankment that was somehow supposed to protect the crowd and, you can see in the video, the engine and rear axel mowed down a bunch of people. The driver of the Merc died as the 300SL's body was made of essentially out of thermite...and the heat from the fire was so intense no one could get to the driver in time and he burned alive. So, yeah, nasty accident. And notice the pit entrance at Le Mans has moved off the main straight. Although...the exit can be evil, now...
 
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Where would Imola fit into the list, because I think there has been a few fatalities there over the years.
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Imola has had a few fatalities, but not that many. It just seems like a lot because of what happened in 1994. Also, the track doesn't have nearly as long of a history as the other tracks.
 
SuperShouden
And it was 86 people who died with about a hundred more injuried in 1955. That is the worst crash in auto racing history. And it's one of the reasons Mercedes is a little la Sarthe shy...that and the last time they were there, two of the cars they brought with them flipped throughout qualifying, practice, warmup and the actual race.
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Yeah I remember that from the time:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqGq9OnHLHs&feature=related

Thankfully the CLK-GTR wasn't made of magnesium.
 
Interesting, but yet sad post... :indiff:

I just searched for some of the good drivers we lost on some of those circuits... my respects to all of them... :guilty:

Some time ago I made a presentation about the Le Mans Disaster... and yes... it was horrendous... 👎
 
SuperShouden
What happened at the LeMans disaster was one of the Jaguars went to pass a Mercedes SL300 coming onto the straight, and then the Jag, like an idiot, cut right in front of the Merc to enter the pits, and the Mercedes driver had no where to go. The Merc launched off the back the Jag, hit the embankment that was somehow supposed to protect the crowd and, you can see in the video, the engine and rear axel mowed down a bunch of people. The driver of the Merc died as the 300SL's body was made of essentially out of thermite...and the heat from the fire was so intense no one could get to the driver in time and he burned alive. So, yeah, nasty accident. And notice the pit entrance at Le Mans has moved off the main straight. Although...the exit can be evil, now...
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Not quite. The Jaguar was avoiding a (much) slower car (the Austin Healey mentioned at 1:40) and then decided to pit. The Mercedes had to swerve to avoid the Jag, but instead collided with the Austin Healey, ramping over it and up onto the guard rail into a post of some sort, and exploded as the fuel (a mix of alcohols, ethers etc.) escaped and ignited on hot parts of the car.
The body was partly constructed of magnesium alloy, as also mentioned in the film - magnesium is highly flammable, and reacts violently with water, so special extinguishers are required. It wasn't the first time, nor was it the last, that this combination of volatile fuel and inflammable bodywork would exacerbate a crash.

(By the way, "Thermite" is aluminium mixed with iron oxide; a pinch of magnesium was often used as a sort of fuse to set the reaction going, though.)
 
Is or was Le Mans a public road? :confused: Because there's a lot of traffic on the road & zero crash barriers:

 
Le Mans '55 was definitely awful, but it's not right to place blame in anyone in the incident. Just the exact series events in the worst time possible. Not Levegh's, not the Jaguar driver (don't remember his name :dunce:), not the Healey's driver fault. What could've been avoided was the innecesary masacre of spectators, just a matter of building a taller fence and asking the people to retreat to a safe distance. And though it's a bit disturbing and somehow morbid that the race continued, stopping it would've clogged the exit roads of spectators leaving no room for the ambulances to move.

R.I.P Pierre Levegh (Who, as said in the great video posted by ZeGermanBastard, died in front of his wife) & 83 people that just wanted to see an SLR up close.

ZeGermanBastorD
Is or was Le Mans a public road? :confused: Because there's a lot of traffic on the road & zero crash barriers:

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Yes, a big part of the Circuit de La Sarthe is made up of public roads. I think that everything from Tertre Rouge until returning to the Porsche curves is part of a public highway, though I can be wrong, and the rest (Ford chicanes, start straight, and Dunlop) is part of the permanent Bugatti Circuit.

Nowadays, the city takes its time installing armco barriers along the Mulsanne but I don't know how long they've been doing this
 
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Not far behind, Suzuka Circuit has 17 Fatalities.
 
Indy is the only track I know of that a person was killed without being within the speedway grounds. Lookup Wilbur Brink, 1932 race. Poor kid was playing in his front yard when an errant wheel came off of a crashing car and rolled at a high rate of speed across the street directly into him, killing him instantly.
 
Fuji's fatality rate is high, as is Walkin's Glen. but WG isn't in GT5. But Fuji, in the 70s when it was first built had a dead man's curve.
 
I'd guess the high number for monza is from the days when they ran the oval part of the track? Monza has always been extremely fast track though and has definitely had its fair share of serious accidents both with cars and motor bikes. Many lives and champions lost there.

Fuji also had a banked corner which was deadly.
 
hyyperactive
I'd guess the high number for monza is from the days when they ran the oval part of the track? Monza has always been extremely fast track though and has definitely had its fair share of serious accidents both with cars and motor bikes. Many lives and champions lost there.

Fuji also had a banked corner which was deadly.
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Actually, if you stop after the bridge in Monza you'll see a memorial. I think there was an accident where a car caught air and hit the bridge, kill the driver. But I'm not sure about that. But...there are a few dead corners at Monza.
 
ZeGermanBastorD
Is or was Le Mans a public road? :confused: Because there's a lot of traffic on the road & zero crash barriers:

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Yeah it is, if you go to Chemin aux Boeufs 72100 Le Mans, France in Google maps, you'll see ordinary road cars on parts that is part of the Le mans track.
 
SuperShouden
Actually, if you stop after the bridge in Monza you'll see a memorial. I think there was an accident where a car caught air and hit the bridge, kill the driver. But I'm not sure about that. But...there are a few dead corners at Monza.
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Alberto Ascari died in a crash at what is now the Ascari Chicane, which is just pass the bridge. Might be a memorial for his death.
 
There is a circuit with a far higher number of deaths than these and its where GTs sister game Tourist Trophy gets its name from, The Isle of Man TT circuit. Its a 37.73 mile track that makes the ring look tiny. Based on public roads on the Isle of Man it has been the scene of 234 fatalities since 1907 the first running of the event.

It is also a very fast track with an average lap speed of 132mph on a Superbike.

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An amazing place though, despite all the accidents I love it.
 
I seriously regret looking up the 1955 le mans disaster video. In one youtube video you can see the hood fly straight through about 30 people heads...... :( :( :( :(

R.I.P
 
peobryant
I'd expect Nurburgring to have a higher fatality rate than Indy, but interesting information nonetheless.


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not really in indy you crash 300+

in nurburgring you crash 100+

more people do crash at nurburgring

but when you do crash in indy its a lot more dangerous.
 
loved the 60's Le Mans vids (aside from the obvious tragedy)

The Isle of Man vid... great to watch but couldnt get any further than 5 mins into the fist vid... listening that guys voice and babbling is excruciating
 
That's Guy Martin, I understand what you mean but somehow he has become a bit of a celebrity with his own BBC show as well as having a starring role in the recent film about the TT, TT 3D Closer to the Edge.

Trailer here:

Great film though.
 
Not to be offensive to the dead, but that's surprisingly small for a few of the tracks there.
 
This thread made me want Imola in the tracks list :eek:
 
JamboGT
That's Guy Martin, I understand what you mean but somehow he has become a bit of a celebrity with his own BBC show as well as having a starring role in the recent film about the TT, TT 3D Closer to the Edge.

Trailer here:
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