Lack of American cars

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Isn't that what makes GT fun, the fact that you can race those two cars together, even though they are not built to compete with each other?
 
Two questions:
1) Isn't it pretty nromal that a 2011 car isn't in a 2010 game?
2) What's the big deal with creating a car that can outhandle the M3? The car is from 2007. Does it take three years to create a car than can outhandle it?

But, yeah, the newer Mustangs would be nice, anyways. At least the Shelby's should be in GT5...
But there's a lot of non-JDM cars that are sorely lacking, anyways :lol:
 
Lack of american cars? Theres enough try having only two (austraila) and theyre only standards, and even worse one of the american cars is a duplicate (gto) nothing current, anyway thats enough from me
 
I want to see some real bentlys not just prototype race car versions. I also wish for more mustangs. They should have added the GT500 K.R. mustang and some saleens and roushes or at the very least, Had the Cobra R as premium and modeled the tail lights right....

Well it's all matter of tastes, I really don't care about street legal bentleys and mustangs, if they convert all the standard race cars and supercars ALREADY in the game that would be great. They have to do it for GT6, So why not start converting them now? :D
 
48 Skylines yet not one of the V6 Mondeo ST24 / ST200 / St220?
 
What's the big deal with creating a car that can outhandle the M3? The car is from 2007. Does it take three years to create a car than can outhandle it?

I think it's a big deal because it's a live-axle Mustang, which most people would think could not do such a thing.
 
I've been using American Champ. Laguna Seca as my grinder lately, Indy puts me to sleep, for the same 117K Cr. and the US has some very good cars. Plus you get about 7900 XP.

The Panoz Esperante GTR-1 and Corvette C5R are among the best handling cars in the game. They simply go where you point them and stick like glue. About 6:38-6:40 race times.

The Viper SRT10 ACR with 1021 hp is the most powerful US car and a blast to drive at Laguna Seca. It has mild downforce so there is enough slip to keep it interesting but not so bad that you can't do fast laps. It does 176 mph on the downhill straight and gets air every time. Will run the race in 6:34.

The Cadillac Cien is faster than you would think around Laguna. It's top speed at Sarthe is 259 mph but it's not fast off the line. There is mid level adjustable downforce front and back, pretty easy to drive fast and I think does the race in about 6:48-6:50 area.

Of course the ZR-1 RM is fast, turns and sticks well and does around 6:32 times.

The fastest US car on all tracks except Indy, Daytona and maybe High Speed Ring is the Chaparral 2J. There is slippage involved so it makes it fun and interesting. Expect sub 6:25 times.
 
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I know there's a lot of people upset with the lack of variety of cars in this game, but my issues stem from the American side of things.

I can't believe these cars have been left out of the game...

- 1957 Cadillac El Dorado
- 1969 Pontiac GTO "The Judge"
- 1970 Buick GSX
- 1967 Dodge Coronet Super Bee
- 1970 Ford Mustang Boss 302
- 1970 Ford Torino Cobra

There's more on my list that escape me right now, but I was disappointed to find the lack of those cars in the game.


(and yes, I know, first post, and yes I know there's topics about the car list but I haven't seen much of an outcry for American cars)

Fix'd for you.
 
Only American car I'm disappointed that isn't in there is the CTS-V.
 
Americans miss the point of the m3 and m5, not even sports cars, so much more and so much more impressive equipment.lets not even start on build quality.
 
Lack of mcdonalds.
 
I've been using American Champ. Laguna Seca as my grinder lately, Indy puts me to sleep, for the same 117K Cr. and the US as some very good cars.

The Panoz Esperante GTR-1 and Corvette C5R are among the best handling cars in the game. They simply go where you point them and stick like glue. About 6:38-6:40 race times.

The Viper SRT10 ACR with 1021 hp is the most powerful US car and a blast to drive at Laguna Seca. It has mild downforce so there is enough slip to keep it interesting but not so bad that you can't do fast laps. It does 176 mph on the downhill straight and gets air every time. Will run the race in 6:34.

The Cadillac Cien is faster than you would think around Laguna. It's top speed at Sarthe is 259 mph but it's not fast off the line. There is mid level adjustable downforce front and back, pretty easy to drive fast and I think does the race in about 6:48-6:50 area.

Of course the ZR-1 RM is fast, turns and sticks well and does around 6:32 times.

The fastest US car on all tracks except Indy, Daytona and maybe High Speed Ring is the Chaparral 2J. There is slippage involved so it makes it fun and interesting. Expect sub 6:25 times.

Yes these are great cars, they just need to convert them into premium models like i'm saying (together with all the other standard supercars/ race cars). Previusly they were talking about another type of cars not racing models, that's why people told em about bad handling.
 
Americans miss the point of the m3 and m5, not even sports cars, so much more and so much more impressive equipment.lets not even start on build quality.

Ok sir, what point are we missing? Educate us, please.

Lack of mcdonalds.

Quit talking out of your arse.
 
Having more American and European cars wouldn't make any sense, because it would take away the disk space needed to store 137 Skylines, 83 RX-7s, and 52 NSXs.

1,000+ cars my ass! :rolleyes:

Why would we want cars like this in our racing game:

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pontiac trans am ws6
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87-93 5.0 mustang (foxbody)

These are the type of cars that are missing. Instead of everyone driving a bunch of weed wackers. If i wanted to drive a 2stroke i would jump on my dirtbike. I don't care what everyone else thinks. When I start my car in the morning and my kitchen walls are shaking i know im going to have a good day. The only thing a Japanese car is going to be shaking is it's own heat shield rattling off.
 
When I start my car in the morning and my kitchen walls are shaking i know im going to have a good day. The only thing a Japanese car is going to be shaking is it's own heat shield rattling off.

I don't agree with your last statement, but the kitchen walls thing was great. :lol:
 
Europe is better represented in GT than the Americans. Both sides need more cars. Europeans have great race cars and sporty cars and what have you. However America isn't properly represented. I love how you people complain about American cars can't turn in a game like GT where it would be as simple as tuning it to get to turn drift or outrun almost whatever you want it to. Cadillacs, Pontiacs, Saturns, 80's and late 70's era Muscle cars. What about tuning companies? I don't see many american tuning companies that are featured that would be equal to say RUF, Nismo or AMG? Wheres Ford Racing? Mopar? Saleen? Hennessy? A viper that can outrun a Veyron to 255? You're going to tell me you wouldn't want that? For that matter, WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO VECTOR AEROMOTIVE? An American car company that could stand toe to toe with machines that both the Euros and the Japanese could put out at the time. What about tested experiments? Thhe Mustang GT-R? What about the Chrysler Firepower or the ME-4.12? What happened? Why not Buick? You're going to put in a Land Rover and an Audi SUV and then throw a fit because the Americans want a few luxury machines in there too? What about some of the Hyundai and KIA cars? Not American but they should be in there too? We want more cars. You got a problem with the American rides? Lets see you hop into that CTR-3 and go against a Saleen S7 Twin Turbo? Or maybe grab that AMG SL and put it toe to toe with a Lingenfelter Corvette? I don't know if its fear of getting upstaged or if its just ignorance. American car companies are that stupid. We just like certain things. The world is going into a mass technological stage. Forgive us if we still like the more mechanical aspect of out machines. We have plenty of regulars from Europe and Japan. Korea, America and most definitely Australia, need better representation. If you got a problem with that, too bad. The last time the US was well represented was GT2. With more cars and better tech, more machines from different countries will make it into the game. If the American's have to apparently put up with (as apparently someone is forcing players to look at or purchase these machines) Subaru 360s or Fiat 500s, then I'm sure everyone else can put up with seeing a Cadillac CTS-V. I'm not commenting on some other countries like Australia or Korea, because they haven't really been represented fully. A few cars here and there. There will be more American cars, as there will be more Japanese cars and there will be more European cars, but seriously, don't get all anal retentive just because someone wants to have more cars from a place you may not agree with. Some American cars can't turn, But the newer boys, the Corvette, Mustang and Viper, are more than capable of dealing with corners. So seriously, you got a problem, eat it. Because there's nor reason why there shouldn't be a wider array of cars. If you don't like the way it handles then tune it. If you can't tune, learn how. If you refuse to learn how, settle for the back of the pack. 'Nough Said.
 
I think it's a big deal because it's a live-axle Mustang, which most people would think could not do such a thing.
Well, that's a self imposed handycap. Chevy just got someone else to do the work, seemed like a good idea.

Lack of mcdonalds.

Well, there's Subway in Ahrweiler, that'll have to do ;)

Ok sir, what point are we missing? Educate us, please.
Probably that it offers a very comfortable every day ride and could be considered a quite luxurious car?
Plus, it's a car that you can take to the country club without getting strange looks from anyone :lol:
 
I just look at it as why aliens always goes to the USA in movies. Why all the big movies are usually about America. When a euro points that out, I usually point out because it was made, funded by or developed in some way mostly by Americans. If you want it based on your country, then make it yourselves.
 
Blasphemy.

SO many good American cars, many listed in this thread alone. Not sporty at all? Not particularly interesting? Why, cause they can't be compared to a Lamborghini or Ferrari? What's your definition of "sporty"?

I would like to add to the list:

- All the 2.2L Turbo Dodges from the 80's (GLHS, etc)
- Early 90's 5.0L Mustangs
- So many late 60's, early 70's muscle cars still missing. (Dart, Cougar, etc)



Explain why the new 5.0L Mustang is faster around a track than the new M3? What kind of American cars have you been driving your whole life? Ford Festiva?

Hmm, I doubt it is faster and even if it is true the M3 always gets a faster brother like the CSL or GTR which will cook about anything on a track. They start with a "Normal" M3's and bring out much faster versions later on.
 
Europe is better represented in GT than the Americans. Both sides need more cars. Europeans have great race cars and sporty cars and what have you. However America isn't properly represented. I love how you people complain about American cars can't turn in a game like GT where it would be as simple as tuning it to get to turn drift or outrun almost whatever you want it to. Cadillacs, Pontiacs, Saturns, 80's and late 70's era Muscle cars. What about tuning companies? I don't see many american tuning companies that are featured that would be equal to say RUF, Nismo or AMG? Wheres Ford Racing? Mopar? Saleen? Hennessy? A viper that can outrun a Veyron to 255? You're going to tell me you wouldn't want that? For that matter, WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO VECTOR AEROMOTIVE? An American car company that could stand toe to toe with machines that both the Euros and the Japanese could put out at the time. What about tested experiments? Thhe Mustang GT-R? What about the Chrysler Firepower or the ME-4.12? What happened? Why not Buick? You're going to put in a Land Rover and an Audi SUV and then throw a fit because the Americans want a few luxury machines in there too? What about some of the Hyundai and KIA cars? Not American but they should be in there too? We want more cars. You got a problem with the American rides? Lets see you hop into that CTR-3 and go against a Saleen S7 Twin Turbo? Or maybe grab that AMG SL and put it toe to toe with a Lingenfelter Corvette? I don't know if its fear of getting upstaged or if its just ignorance. American car companies are that stupid. We just like certain things. The world is going into a mass technological stage. Forgive us if we still like the more mechanical aspect of out machines. We have plenty of regulars from Europe and Japan. Korea, America and most definitely Australia, need better representation. If you got a problem with that, too bad. The last time the US was well represented was GT2. With more cars and better tech, more machines from different countries will make it into the game. If the American's have to apparently put up with (as apparently someone is forcing players to look at or purchase these machines) Subaru 360s or Fiat 500s, then I'm sure everyone else can put up with seeing a Cadillac CTS-V. I'm not commenting on some other countries like Australia or Korea, because they haven't really been represented fully. A few cars here and there. There will be more American cars, as there will be more Japanese cars and there will be more European cars, but seriously, don't get all anal retentive just because someone wants to have more cars from a place you may not agree with. Some American cars can't turn, But the newer boys, the Corvette, Mustang and Viper, are more than capable of dealing with corners. So seriously, you got a problem, eat it. Because there's nor reason why there shouldn't be a wider array of cars. If you don't like the way it handles then tune it. If you can't tune, learn how. If you refuse to learn how, settle for the back of the pack. 'Nough Said.

I'll tell you what happened to Vector; those frickin' SOBs at Megatech sunk it wholesale! :grumpy:

Anyway, I do agree with you one thing; If we're gonna have some old collectible Japanese cars, why not some more old American ones, too? It wouldn't hurt to have a Gran Torino here, or a '76 Eldorado there, etc.
 
Hmm, I doubt it is faster and even if it is true the M3 always gets a faster brother like the CSL or GTR which will cook about anything on a track. They start with a "Normal" M3's and bring out much faster versions later on.

Yeah, the M3 GTS. Which does 7:48 around the 'Ring, tested by Sportauto. Same as a Porsche 997 GT3 RS, by the way. That's faster than the Ford GT... :sly:
 
BKviper, The Ariel Atom is British but sold by a different company in america, put that version in and we miss out on the v8!!! I'd love to see the Lincoln Town Car in GT6-around the bend and its on its door handles again!!!(soft;))
 
If PD spent their time making sure that everyone's interests were observed we would've never seen this game. Now as PD are a Japanese company, and as GT is a Japanese game, it's hardly surprising.

If the game was developed in America we would've seen a bias towards American cars. And the modifications would include things like larger seats, bigger drink holders, and the ability to earn a gun license and carry a loaded sidearm in your glovebox.

J/K my good American friends.
 
I really couldn't stand another bad handling car in the game. The focus towards Japanese cars is great from my perspective.
 
Americans miss the point of the m3 and m5, not even sports cars, so much more and so much more impressive equipment.lets not even start on build quality.

Have you been to America and seen how common these cars are in the affluent areas? A pretty big proportion of the people that can afford them and actually care about how their cars drive buy them. We're not all driving around in Chrysler Sebrings (though I'm sadly closer to a Sebring than an M5) because we don't know any better.
 
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