Licence Tests (Annoyances)

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I've been reading throgh variouse threads here and I've hear about the pace car being a major annoyance. The fact you can't pass it or hit it and but still must keep pressure on it so it drives faster. My thread isn't about this but if you want to disscuss that here its fine.

The main reason for this post is crashing, bronze - silver - gold times, and out of course.

I was playing GT3 the other day trying to gold all my B licences (quit laughing) I have them all but the last one B-8. The problem I am having is crashes. In the chicane through trial mountian your supposed to hug one wall very closely before you make the turn. Normally what happens is I will nudge the wall and it will give me a crash fail, or I will not be close enough to the wall and can't take the turn at the proper speed. The reason it fustrates me is that in other licence tests I have hit walls much much harder (instead of alittle noise it makes a big thunk) and I don't get a crash fail. It seems very picky on what is considered a crash or not. I loaded up GT2 and it is much more lax about crash fails (to lax if you ask me you can hit walls like crazy and be ok). I'm wondering how they are handled in GT4 are they atleast more consistant with what they consider a crash? Also are they more strict (can't even blow wind past a wall) or are they more lax (if you nudge the wall you will be ok)?

My next question is how are the bronze - silver - gold times? I found GT2 was again to easy while GT3 more right if not alittle to hard. Does GT4 have harder times than GT3 or are you finding it more simple to acheive each level of the particular test, or are the golds more strict while the bronze and silver remain fairly easy?

I have also noticed that over the years Out of Course has changed alot too. In GT2 all four tires must be of the track curbs excluded, while GT3 went for three tires off the track lead to a out of course fail. This isn't as big of a deal becuase usually when I am going out of course the car would have been nowhere near the tarmac.

So I guess to sum up, basically over the years the licences tests have changed, and I want to know what they are like in the newest version. Thanks for reading have a great day!
 
Also I just saw a video where the goal of the licence test was to hit all the cones, the cones where setp up on the ideal driving line and the driver had to run them all over.

Would anyone care to explain that test better? Also has PD came up with anymore innovations for the driving tests?
 
"where the goal of the licence test was to hit all the cones, the cones where setp up on the ideal driving line and the driver had to run them all over."

That sums it up exactly. The test is from GT Prologue. That exact test is not in GT4. GTP and GT4 both had things called "coffee breaks", which are silly tests involving cones, but still can be fun. Other than that, the tests are similar to GT3 in most respects.
 
I think the biggest problem with the "License tests" is the term/name itself. They are not exactly Tests. Although you must 'pass' them in order to acquire a license, which makes it a test, the idea with those "license tests" is to teach you how to deal with specific circonstances and thus, teach you how to better drive. Ultimatly, by going through with 'Gold' on each tests, you also practice that particuliar 'test' which later helps you in your racing events.

I'm of the ones who take the test badly. I don,t like them, i never liked them and i hardly thinking i will enjoy them any better in GT4, but they are part of the game. Big difference in GT4, there are races where they are not required (so i'm told).

Overall, the idea behind attaining GOLD on all test is to push yourself to the limits, which in turn is both rewarding by money or a car, and by experience, which translate rather well when you race during the rest of the game.

As for the difficulty setting with Crashs and 'off track' problems... I can't say anything other then the fact that by logical means, getting off the track, especially with "shortcut"in your head is not a good idea, and if it were a test, the evaluation board would flunk you right away. In gt3 i've hard a few out of the track experiences and still came out with a GOLD status, but usually, the best idea is to keep the Apex. As walls and crashes are concerned, i suppose the intensity of the crash could be a factor into a failure... but usually, if you rub the car too much on the wall, its just not worth pursuing as you'll run out of time before the end of the test.
 
I am actually looking forward to the new driving tests because they sound very different from the rest of the GT series. And i am bloody sick of those stop and go licence test in at the test track they're soooo annoying especially in an underpowered car.
 
05_Stang
My next question is how are the bronze - silver - gold times? I found GT2 was again to easy while GT3 more right if not alittle to hard. Does GT4 have harder times than GT3 or are you finding it more simple to acheive each level of the particular test, or are the golds more strict while the bronze and silver remain fairly easy?
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Hi, I just completed all Golds (80 in total) for GT4 License tests last night and I think they are a bit harder than the previous generations of GT. Why I say this?

1) There more tests in GT4.
2) You must learn to use correct acceleration in some tests (progressive throttle).
3) Must slipstream for max speed.
4) A lot more courses. (learning Nurburgring was a b!tch)
5) The Pace Car factor (although I kinda like it)


But I do think they should of bumped up the "Bronze" times to make it a little harder...
 
Salamander
Hi, I just completed all Golds (80 in total) for GT4 License tests last night and I think they are a bit harder than the previous generations of GT. Why I say this?

1) There more tests in GT4.
2) You must learn to use correct acceleration in some tests (progressive throttle).
3) Must slipstream for max speed.
4) A lot more courses. (learning Nurburgring was a b!tch)
5) The Pace Car factor (although I kinda like it)


But I do think they should of bumped up the "Bronze" times to make it a little harder...
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You got all golds in the rest of the GT series?
 
gee ive only got a couple of full licences that are all gold, took me an age to do the last test for B licence in GT3, that one was a bastard.

Im looking forward to learning the Nurburgring, all 176 turns of it :)
 
gt1 tests were hard (pressing left softly = massive swerve to left etc...) due to controls and graphics.

gt2 were much much easier

gt3 I found pretty hard :S

gt4: p were so simple... if you just keep at it, it's fine. I got all golds bar the gt40 (ps2 dead).

so I assume gt4 will be even esier due to the fact the handling has been upped again. If a car does what I tell it to, then it's going to be a challenge, but fun/easy. if the controls lack, then it's just going to be annoying.
 
The funny thing is that I'm at 0% completion :)

I'm so hooked on this license thing, especially when I comparing my times against other people on db.granturismo.de

Nurburgring is the final S License test, driving a Sauber. The test wasn't that hard considering that I got gold after completing 3-4 full laps. But I did spend endless hours finding the best lines in the first half of the track. Lap time was 5:44, but that was driving the last 1/3 of the track very conservatively...
 
most people are saying that the handling is a lot better and the car feels that it is on the edge a lot more and feels aggressive. Having heard that i think that this game will suite me a lot better.
 
As a veteran of this series, I have a stat for you. In my GT history, I have NEVER cleared an entire test with Gold Prizes. I haven't played GT3 in a while, and I almost swept all of my A-License tests except for the Camaro at Seattle, where I get Silver a lot.

I don't care about getting all Golds in a license test. To me, the point of a "License Test" is to pass it, and get on with life. You don't have to be perfect. You can always come back to it to do better. That's what I did in "Burnout 2: Point of Impact." With the rather useless Crash Course option, all I got was the Driving School car that was pretty fast, though not as agile. I think I redid some of the Crash levels for gold, remembering to hit something big for more points.

There are two ways to play the game. One is traditional (my method, and just get cars through racing your ass off). the other is about treating license tests as bigtime races, and not go into actual racing until License Tests are passed with Gold honors. When I get GT4, I don't care about all-Golds. I don't brag like that. I'm more old-fashioned. Give me a car, a test, some objective, I'll do my best to pass the damn thing and get the hell into actual racing. That's just me, though. I'm not hating if you prefer license tests first.
 
Oh, and one more stat.

My most annoying race in the GT series: Super License Final at Monte Carlo with the Toyota GT-One (GT3).
 
I got stuck on the one with the camaro in seattle as well, that is a bastard. And i don't believe i spend much time on licenses compared to some people, i have no gold medals from I-A license onwards in GT3, i like doing laps around complex string instead :)
 
JohnBM01
Oh, and one more stat.

My most annoying race in the GT series: Super License Final at Monte Carlo with the Toyota GT-One (GT3).
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No John! That test is a little slice of heaven. A well handling car with an oversteer bias, around a tight technical course…what more could one want?
 
oh and one more stat, you can get through that license with the GT-ONE easily if you use a manual and take the slower corners in 3rd gear
 
I think that john guy is more into the racing side of GT. Unless he's got his PS2 networked up i don't know who he'd race against cos the AI is crap...
 
I’d say the biggest difference between GT3 and GT4 License tests (never played the older GT games) is the bigger difference between the Bronze and Gold times. In GT4 it’s fairly simple to get a bronze time, you just need to drive a clean line and you’re pretty sure of coming in under the bronze time, even in the S license you can miss the apex on a couple of corners and still comfortably get the bronze.
 
well thats a relief because normally when i start the game i just get the bronzes quickly so i can get on with the game quickly. Then once I am on about 50% I come back and get all golds which i don't normally suceed on, but I get at least half of all the tests gold
 
I have one gold so far in GT4 and reckon the tests are harder than GT3 (first two licenses all gold on the Japanese version). I went back to the first license of GT4 to try for golds and decided to initially set my sights on silvers due to the difficulty factor.

I don't like the Pace Car. At least you could overtake it on Prologue.
 
I agree with Mclaren_Man on the driving tests. I like to get through them as quickly as possible to get to the racing, If I get a silver or bronze, it's perfectly OK with me. I like to get more track time than beat my head into the wall for that last thousandth of a second. For those that do, More power to you. But, I'll come back later when I get bored and try for the golds to get the prize cars.
 
If you have all Bronze, at all the licenses, can you then take part in every race, or do you have to have silver or gold in some/every license to take part in ALL the races?
 
I did not play GT4 yet but I'd play GT4P and there those license test were actually easy and every time a bonus car. If it is the same in GT4 then the license are easy but I read here it's not the same so good! I like the License test a lot, it's normal that its in the GT series and thats the first thing I always do/did in GTx
But most of the time I get bronze or silver but I don't care.
If you have all bronze or all gold its the same--> you have the license and can take part in every race in the game. The only thing you miss is the car you get but it's more fun to save money to buy that car instead of getting it already from the beginning of the game. It's the same with the money"cheat" of GT3. With that extra you don't need to buy a 2nd-handcar first, so your missing a part of the fun and if you start with a powerfull car in the beginning you don't really feel your progress in the game. Those expensive, powerfull cars has to be there for later in the game, to look forward too.
 
I've always found the Gold licenses hard to get and that hasn't changed with GT4.
I'd say the Bronze award is easier now if anything.

You only need a Bronze award to get the License.
Silver and Gold aren't necessary for Racing purposes, although you do win nice cars for those!
There are very few races that don't have a particular License requirement.
 
Samberto
No John! That test is a little slice of heaven. A well handling car with an oversteer bias, around a tight technical course…what more could one want?
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A steering wheel!!!!! (and above all, pedals to have better throtle control) something I hadn't when I did that test!!
 
05_Stang
Also I just saw a video where the goal of the licence test was to hit all the cones, the cones where setp up on the ideal driving line and the driver had to run them all over.

Would anyone care to explain that test better? Also has PD came up with anymore innovations for the driving tests?
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In GT4P they were called 'coffe breaks'. That's the only explonation I can come with ;)
 
in my opinion, the licence tests in GT4 are alot better than the previous ones. the main reason is that it is much easyer to get a bronze and alot harder to get gold. this makes it better for amature players who just want to get the licence and go and it makes it a better challenge for pro players who will always want to get all gold. also, the fact that you earn cars for getting Bronze and silver insted of the usual all gold makes it alot more fun!
 
Darts
If you have all Bronze, at all the licenses, can you then take part in every race, or do you have to have silver or gold in some/every license to take part in ALL the races?
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Licence tests only need to be passed. In GT4 you now get a bonus car for all passes, an extra one for all silvers and another extra one for all golds...

76 golds and counting... :D
 

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