License test question

[ventureaaron]

hello, new here, must admit that i like the license test but i'm not good, and i really should get better. So where do i start; after crashing and burning about a million times i realise that if i don't change something i'm doomed to bronze. I'm looking for tips on the starting line launch but can't seem to find them when i search. Know it's off topic but please help. Also just noticed this is an old thread - so i may be writing to myself.

 

[194GVan]

do you get cars for completing the A and B license tests? I transferred mine over from GT3 so did i miss out on any good cars?

 

[jayina]

do you get cars for completing the A and B license tests? I transferred mine over from GT3 so did i miss out on any good cars?

Here's quick link for prize cars: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=52616

As stated earlier the IA-15 test was pretty tought for me. Not because its the pace car, but nurburgring is at least 10mins long for 1 lap to get bronze and i have gone off track @ 7 mins and before probably 100x's. All in all i settled for the silver for now.

 

[BaronCAD]

hello, new here, must admit that i like the license test but i'm not good, and i really should get better. So where do i start; after crashing and burning about a million times i realise that if i don't change something i'm doomed to bronze. I'm looking for tips on the starting line launch but can't seem to find them when i search. Know it's off topic but please help. Also just noticed this is an old thread - so i may be writing to myself.

Do the Demo & switch to "in-car view w/tach gauge" is how the demo car revs engine and hit gas right after countdown completes.
I've practiced this and still forget to rev engine and back down, then all I do is spin the wheels and lose time

 

[jayina]

Also if you guys don't know, for the license tests that are just sections of a course, you can press R3 for the line to appear so you know when to brake, accelerate and let go of the throttle.

 

[Famine]

I think there is a correlation, but it's not the one you are thinking of. I don't think it's a case of having a wheel rather than a DS2 makes the tests easier.

I think it's a case of people who have the wheel tend to be more hardcore, experienced, better drivers, than people who just have a DS2.

Basically, the people who use a wheel find the tests easier because they are better drivers, not because the wheel makes it any easier.

Just like dsakai, I have all golds with a DS2.

 

[StarscreamGhost]

There has been too many times when the Pace Car has stopped in front of me and i rammed him in the a$$ and i fail....this happened alot in the ib tests and the super tests.
I have learned that if you want the gold for them you need to run a perfect race and well i would rather be racing then taking tests

 

[smellysocks12]

There has been too many times when the Pace Car has stopped in front of me and i rammed him in the a$$ and i fail....this happened alot in the ib tests and the super tests.
I have learned that if you want the gold for them you need to run a perfect race and well i would rather be racing then taking tests

I guess I'll start on golding that test once I'm done with everything else in the game!

 

[Savington]

It took me about an hour, and no more than 2 tries on any single test to blow through the iB and iA license tests. Mostly Bronze, a few Silver. I got a Gold on the M-B Evo NBR Pace car test, because I didn't want to go off at 7:30 and have to re-do the whole lap. I was sort of just cruising behind the pace car to get it over with. I'd rather be racing than testing.

 

[tazzer]

I went through got all bronze for all the tests, then I went through and got all silver, and not I am trying to get all gold and that stupid pace car is making it difficult to do. I am finding myself faster around corners than it is. So far I have 11 cars and have not done a single race but on day 126.

I HATE THAT DAMN PACE CAR if it wasn't a skyline I would just give up and go and race.

 

[Relik86]

I think it may be due to the fact that the new physics better suit my driving style, but I find the tests a lot easier this time around.

I'll be honest, I never made it past the A license in any of the previous games However, I made it through B, A, and I-B in GT4 with relative ease earlier this afternoon. I would've gone for I-A, but I wanted to win some cash with my '96 RX-7!

BTW, I was using a DS2.

 

[Sniper596]

these license tests are ridiculously easier compared to previous gt tests. Hell i even golded one of the tests on my FIRST attempt. The first time I golded a license in the gt series was in GT2, and that took at least an hour achieve.

I never realized that silver could replace bronze but that's what i set my goals toward, at least silver or i try again (i'm not really wanting gold just yet...).

 

[Telrath]

There has been too many times when the Pace Car has stopped in front of me and i rammed him in the a$$ and i fail....this happened alot in the ib tests and the super tests.
I have learned that if you want the gold for them you need to run a perfect race and well i would rather be racing then taking tests

mmm.. I disagree with that statement, I've noticed that a lot of the licenses give a fair amount of leeway in terms of getting the gold. Take the early I think B test with Laguna Seca (I've been terrible at this course, it's one of the banes to my racing existence) I think I was around .09 away from the gold. And after doing the first 4 turns and coming up on the checkpoint at the base of the hill before the downhill S I think my best was around .9 ahead of my near gold run. Somewhere I'd always mess up on the S or the following turns though and that amazing lead would get squandered away. Now if I had done them "well" not perfect I bet there's another second or two to be gained there. Meaning you can pull out 3-4 seconds ahead of the gold in a lot of instances for the full laps.

It's not a matter of being "perfect" it's about being consistently GOOD. I'm pretty good at points but it's the consistency that seperates me from those at the top.

On a seperate note: I havent played a whole lot with the DS2 (I also have a DFP), and what I can say for the driving differences are:

1. I feel turning full out is easier with the DS2; with the DFP sometimes I'm overturning because I feel that the car isnt turning enough but all I'm doing is causing the car to slide more and ruin my exit line, whereas the DS2 it's REALLY easy to return to a neutral position just by releasing.

2. The difference in forcefeedback just feels weird, I'm so used to having to fight to turn. (this isnt a good or bad thing, it's just a difference I noticed right off the bat, makes the flow of the car feel smoother)

3. For me, the DFP makes minute alterations EASY, simplest example just being the acceleration meter, it's a lot easier for me to do I'd say around 5-10 different levels of acceleration, whereas the DS2 I have maybe 4? I'm not sure, I noticed with the accelerator meter it's a lot easier to know when I'm lightly tapping and not but I cant keep it very steady unless it's 0% or 100%

Hmm.. if anyone else notices other things or has differing thoughts on the differences between driving with the DS2 and the DFP point them out to me.

 

[Lib]

Im having such a hard time getting gold on the full lap races for each license.. the rest are peices of cake, but I cant seem to get gold on the full lap ones.

 

[feldon23]

This seems like a general GT4 License Test thread, so I will unleash my *****fest here. If you perceive negative comments about the License Tests as 'whining', ignore this:

I played GT3 some, but got so fed up with the cheating (cars accelerating to catch up with you when the engine/specs aren't capable of producing such a bogus acceleration) and bumper car effect that I never bought it or got seriously into it.

I'm borrowing a friend's spare PS2 and bought GT4.

The license tests are certainly more interesting and have a lot of improvements since GT3 and prior versions, but still...


Right now, I'm about to blow a ****ing gasket. I'm sure some llamas will come along and say "you're a lamer" or "you just need to learn how to drive". In real life, I've driven through Paris twice already including up and down the Champs Elysses and around the Arc de Triomphe a couple of times during rush hour. I know how to f* drive.

So here's my point. If GT4 is supposed to be this uber-realitic game, how come the nanosecond you run into the grass or hit a cone in a driving test, the whole level stops and you have to start over? This wasn't as big a deal in GT1, but with as many licenses and the way they are structured in GT4, why the hell can't we experiment with our driving line by going in the grass and simply be disqualified? What would the harm be in putting a message on the screen "Disqualified" but let you keep driving?

I'm early in the tests on, I think B-6 which is the right hand turn on the double loop. If I had been allowed to just drive the damn car where I want, even if I'm disqualified, I could have experimented and honed my skill going around the corner and gradually reduced the amount of the car is going into the grass until eventually I got it. Instead, it was like banging my head against a F* wall. Oh, I eventually got Gold. But I know I could have gotten it in half the time if it weren't for this instant driving stoppage.

What really brought me to post here was the G*dd*mn cones! Oh my god, you hit one and that's it? You can't drive around the course and look for the best possible route? Hello! If there was any sense of realism, you'd be allowed to walk the course first, no? Ugh!

So far I've got Gold in the 6 tests I've done and want to get a Gold in every one. But I also want to learn how to drive the GT style, not fighting the machine and coming up with gimmick ways to get through each area.

I've found that the handbrake is a necessity to stop in a checkered area. And having the RPMs exactly right on the engine right when the starting buzzer goes off is also vital to get your times down.

Anyway, signing off. Flame away, I'll ignore any such posts. Anything constructive, of course, is appreciated.

 

[tazzer]

This seems like a general GT4 License Test thread, so I will unleash my *****fest here. If you perceive negative comments about the License Tests as 'whining', ignore this:

Anyway, signing off. Flame away, I'll ignore any such posts. Anything constructive, of course, is appreciated.

Well I like to disagree to agree. I found the license tests this time around just plain crap. The thing that I hate is that god damn friggen Pace car. That stupid thing gets in my way and if ou pull up to the side of it your D'Qed what a bunch of crap. I thought that stupid thing was supposed to speed up.

I have 63 golds and 1 bronze. That damn piece of crap IA-15 and that stupid pace car.

Also I think the prize list is kinda cheesy. Plus you can't sell that stupid Nike 2022 which I think is a piece of crap as well.

Anyways I love this game and off to play some more

 

[SimRaceDriver]

The first few series of tests weren't that bad for me...getting my share of Silvers & Bronzes..(No golds as of yet but then again, I usually come back to them later in the game)...And I started to gain some much needed confidence...that was until the last Super license test...all fricking 16 of them took me sooooo loooonggggg to complete!

Lord I can't count the number of times it took me to get through just the MB 190E tests..both of them that is and let's not start with the Bently Speed 8 & the Le Mans track..(Circuit de Sarthe?)...DAMN WHAT A NIGHT MARE!

There are a few track/car scenerios that I really just don't like doing and they are:
1. Any high HP RWD car on Seattle...in ANY DIRECTION! :-)
2. Any ICE track....in ANY CAR!

However, I do feel that at least striving for SILVER will definitely make you a better driver...Don't forget that if you're having a hard time passing a particular test, just watch the 'demo' to see how to get around the track in the fastest possible time & what the optimal lines are....

 

[feldon23]

Then there's the only marginally useful blue-and-red suggested driving line which appears COMPLETELY at random and then DISAPPEARS just when you need it most. Why can't the f* thing appear AND STAY VISIBLE the next time around if you go off-track? Would it really be that difficult? You have to drive the route 10 times to catch enough of a glimpse of the suggested path to know what they think you should do.

 

[z06camaro]

I Don't understand what the PROBLEM is with the pace car....they accually help me alot becuase on IA-15 they act as a guide(not familar with the ring) and with the grass issue if you don't approach the grass HEAD ON you can get on it without Failing you just kind of have to ease into it...
so far 40 Bronze 8 Silver(a&b transfer) JUST NEED S LICENCE

 

[Hemmo]

i dont know about gt4 but in gt4p i hard time to get golds with ds2 but when i changed to dfp i usually take 2-6 tries to get gold metals..so i do think that dfp is much better and funnier than ds2...

 

[feldon23]

Playing with a DS2 here. Still working on B. Pitiful, ain't it?

I'm working on Laguna Seca now. What an awesome course and I'm glad I'm learning the "right" way to drive it. The inability to 'free' drive it in the license test is driving me nuts though. I may see if I can free race/practice Laguna Seca elsewhere in GT mode for a few dozen laps to get good at it and then come back and try the license.

Thanks for the tip about pressing R3 to bring up the suggested driving line. I must have been accidentially pressing it when accelerating or braking hard.

And I can confirm what jayina is saying. The difference between a great and perfect drive on these tests is how you launch. I carefully hold the RPM right at the redline (but not 'bouncing') and peg it right when the buzzer sounds. And then if there is an area that I have to stop at a certain time, I use the handbrake as well as the regular brake (absolute necessity). Too bad it won't let you use Reverse too.

 

[BadBatsuMaru]

What really brought me to post here was the G*dd*mn cones! Oh my god, you hit one and that's it? You can't drive around the course and look for the best possible route? Hello! If there was any sense of realism, you'd be allowed to walk the course first, no? Ugh!

I can just imagine this guy taking his driver's license test IRL.



Instructor: OK, let's beigin the parallel parking section of your test.

feldon23: Aggh! These goddamned cones!

(The engine revs erratically while feldon23 simultaneously backs one wheel up onto the curb and crushes the fender of the car behind him. Plastic can be heard bending and cracking as the instructor writes a big red X on the paper)

feldon23: Hello! Shouldn't I get to try the course first before you start writing?

Instructor: I think we're done here. You can get out of the car now.

(the twisting plastic gives way to the sound of grinding metal, shattering glass and a blaring car alarm)

feldon23: Just because I'm disqualified doesn't mean I'm going to stop driving! What's up with this instant driving stoppage?

 

[Telrath]

So here's my point. If GT4 is supposed to be this uber-realitic game, how come the nanosecond you run into the grass or hit a cone in a driving test, the whole level stops and you have to start over?

I'm not saying you don't know how to drive, because driving in RL is completely different from "racing" driving. And that's the reason why they cut you off, theoretically if you're really racing through the course and in the higher areas there's turns you take at 60+ mph. Now I don't know about you but I've had some trouble on highways with snow and have ended up skidding between two lanes going 60-70+ mph with little to no control and ended up in a ditch. The purpose to cut you out early when you mess up badly like cutting across whole sections of grass is that if you were to do that in real life there's dozens of different results all of them bad that would happen ranging from simply spinning out or flipping over. Their goal is to teach you the "ideal" way to take turns, which is totally different from driving in real life. haha I always think about ideal lines when I drive through normal streets and if I were to take it I'd be starting in the far right side of traffic cut across 3 lanes of traffic while turning and end up facing oncoming traffic... LoL whether you're a good driver in real life or not has little to do with whether you can follow racing lines or not.

What really brought me to post here was the G*dd*mn cones! Oh my god, you hit one and that's it? You can't drive around the course and look for the best possible route? Hello! If there was any sense of realism, you'd be allowed to walk the course first, no? Ugh!

mmm.. dunno much to say bouts the cones being a factor except they're usually placed in easy mess up areas. And dont you' think you're asking for a little much? to be able to walk the course first?

I've found that the handbrake is a necessity to stop in a checkered area. And having the RPMs exactly right on the engine right when the starting buzzer goes off is also vital to get your times down.

To this, it's actually not all true. All the stopping races I did without handbrake, and yes they're all golds. The proper reving is however necessary. The idea is to teach you how to stop and start properly, part of starting properly is finding that rev range which is optimal (I tend to rev it at around 3-4 and punch it a split second before the game tells me to start, if I did it correctly it should rev right before the redline w/o actually hitting it and drop a bit and accelerate to the redline without overrevving it.. if this makes any sense to you)

As for the stopping it's a NECESSITY to stop as soon as you enter the checkered area. Honestly, all I did was punch the brake and try to ride the car in a straight line. The goal isnt to stop in the center or near the cones on the far side but RIGHT at the beginning of them.

Hope this helps a little...

 

[BaronCAD]

As for the stopping it's a NECESSITY to stop as soon as you enter the checkered area. Honestly, all I did was punch the brake and try to ride the car in a straight line. The goal isnt to stop in the center or near the cones on the far side but RIGHT at the beginning of them.

Hope this helps a little...

Couldn't say it any better. I tried the handbrake on the test with the viper, left thumb twitched and the car started spinning like a top.
Lic B = GOLD
Lic A = GOLD
Lic IB = SILVER (10 gold, 2 silver)
Lic IA = bronze 10 gold, 1 silver, 1 bronze (The RING kicks my butt)
Lic S = bronze

 

[Danoff]

I Don't understand what the PROBLEM is with the pace car....they accually help me alot becuase on IA-15 they act as a guide(not familar with the ring)

The problem with the pace car is that it should be optional - and I should have the option to use a ghost.

The point of the pace car was to get you familiar with the tracks, but if you intend to get anything beyond bronze you probably have to have the track memorized - so who needs the pace car for that?

Plus it makes you end up playing games drafting off of it or trying not to ram it in the rear when it slams on its brakes for NO FREAKING REASON!!!

The pace car is useful only on the first couple of times around the track, after that I want my ghost back so I can see where I'm improving on my previous lap.

The pace car does hold you back, but it doesn't prevent you from getting gold (the whole reason this thread was started), if you don't believe it just switch on the demo run.



... now bout GT4 vs. GT3 licenses

I think they're probably about the same. I'm alot better at the GT games now then when I was getting gold on all the GT3 licenses - so I expect to get them faster now. I've had some trouble getting gold on some of the GT4 tests. However, I do think that bronze is easier to get in GT4. I think they decided that they ticked off a lot of their mediocre players by setting the bar too high for bronze and so they backed off. I have literally spun out on a license test that was less than a lap... that's 360 degrees on the road... I recovered, finished the test and got bronze.

 

[Lambo88]

The tests are definately a lot tougher in GT4 than GT3. It takes me around an hour in average to pass atest in gold, a lot more than GT3. I have now golded the B, A and the first ten tests in the IB license. I hate the pace car too, it just slows me down, when I could be faster.

I am very impressed at the game but its still lacking some important cars, still no AI and the B-Spec mode and Photomode are like I tought, just gimmicks to figure some innovation.

 

[sebastiaoburnay]

Hello! My name is sebastian and I'm from Portugal.
Are the gt4 Licences difficult to pass?

 

[BaronCAD]

Hello! My name is sebastian and I'm from Portugal.
Are the gt4 Licences difficult to pass?

That depends on you, Have you played GT2 or GT3.
Different people have differing opinions on this some say too easy, others very hard.
I'm in-between some tests way easy and others hard (the Ring) but with practice you can master all. I recently went back and "Golded" all tests in GT3, was content at that time with bronze.
Lic. B & Lic. A you can get a pass if you have a save file for GT3 on same memory card as GT4 game save. Don't win any cars-but you pass these tests. You would need to do all tests if you want the bonus cars.

 

[Sniper596]

once you understand the driving model and game mechanics the licenses are pretty easy; I feel the licences are much too easy even in the the higher levels to achieve compared to GT3, mistakes are easily forgivable and thus bronzes are just a matter of staying on the track and not crashing too hard.

Btw, it is just me or are people freaking out about the IA 15 license too much? I golded it on my first successful try (not attempt)... I'm curious to whether or not the players who are having a difficult time have ever driven on the track prior to the licence (in arcade or practice) just for the hell of it, and have actually driven on the track more than the grass.

I'm suprised no one is really complaining about the IA 16 license, my wrists were hurting from the bumpy roads on the straightaway because of the vibrations it sent through the wheel .

 

[dave_wee]

does anyone have trouble controlling the amount of turn into the corner with DS2??

and i have trouble controlling the amount of pressure on the brakes and gas. i know this are crucial in pushing the car to its limit.

meanwhile, i'm stuck in B trying to get all Gold... gold all the way till dead bronze on the Laguna Seca course and all tests with pace cars later... basically i have problems with hi-speed cornering with the DS2, something about controlling the amount of steering and power....

has anyone got some tip for me?? i juz can't seem to NOT push the car.... -.- maybe i ought to get myself a DFP.... *sigh* any advice welcome.