Loss of HP

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After a few super speedway enduro my Escudo HP from 1881 dropped to 1841 HP :(. I always changed the oil after the race and everything.. My Escudo has only 766 KM on the clock... Is there any way to regain the lost HP?
 
you've lost that Hp. There is no way to regain it.

But do youreally need that missing 40 hp?

AO
 
No, there is no way to get the HP back, sorry.

Did you buy the escudo? they say that prize cars are already at the HP-peak and never drops from that, you just have to change the oil.

/D
 
"They'd" be wrong then.
A prize car behaves exactly like a bought car, but with no first run-in period. Both cars will run at peak power for the same amount of miles, then drop to around 3% less after heavy driving.
 
I've never researched the specific distances, but it's

Run-in period ~200km
Peak Power period ~200km

So at about 400km your power will drop to the lower peak level permanently, for all cars
 
Thanks for the info, I haven't been very clear how this oil change vs. power drop thing works.

Then again, I have about 50 miles on the V-Dub and 20 on the Trueno.
 
Originally posted by Famine
I've never researched the specific distances, but it's

Run-in period ~200km
Peak Power period ~200km

So at about 400km your power will drop to the lower peak level permanently, for all cars
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Is this supposed to duplicate what happens to cars in real life?? My run in period for a new car would be more like 2000-3000 Km. And im sure that if u change the oil every 2000-3000 Km, your engine should be running at peak for quite awhile. Maybe they put those smaller numbers because we are always racing the cars in the game (as compared to RL ) ??
 
Don't aks me - I'm not PD OR Sony! :D

I guess they shrunk the distances, because the number of cars you've got that break past 2000km is tiny.
 
Yeah, thanks for clearing things up guys! Now I know when my cars will lose HP. None of my cars have that much mileage on them yet, though, so I don't need to worry.
 
Originally posted by milefile
Graduated to GT3, eh? Cool. Don't your eyes feel better already?
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Yes.

Earning a small fortune early on in this game is quite difficult. I'm feeding a Beetle and AE86 on a pauper's budget in comparsion to GT2, and the pesky Lupo Cup Car and del Sol SiR are eating me for breakfast on the straights. Then again, it's not as bad as starting off with the Fiat 500R in GT2...:banghead:

Gawd, I sound like such a noob.
 
GT3 starts off slower, that's for sure. Don't you just love the light filtering through the trees on Trial Mountain and Deep Forest? I remember that really impressed me when I first played it.
 
It's almost distracting; but the courses are remarkably much the same...I was half-way though my license test on my work break today; can't wait to break into those new courses!

The rusty spots on TM and the new scenery at Midfield really blew me away. And it's my first long-term experience with the Dual-Shock controller.

I feel like I've been stuck in an Ice Age cave for 10 years.
 
We do have the means of finding out for the exact mileage for peak and run-in. The question is does anyone want to spend the time to do it?
kideng
 
Originally posted by pupik
It's almost distracting; but the courses are remarkably much the same...I was half-way though my license test on my work break today; can't wait to break into those new courses!

The rusty spots on TM and the new scenery at Midfield really blew me away. And it's my first long-term experience with the Dual-Shock controller.

I feel like I've been stuck in an Ice Age cave for 10 years.
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Don't try playing GT2 anymore, you won't even be able to see the cars...:lol:
 
Has anybody ever told you you got the coolest avatar XenoN? :D
As for the mileage thing I got an Formula car with 2100+ miles on it and it still has the same hp so prize cars must never drop performance.
Just buy another Escudo, for sure after so many Super Speedway enduros you got enough money for another one. :p :rolleyes:
 
Originally posted by pupik
I feel like I've been stuck in an Ice Age cave for 10 years.
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Heh heh. :lol:

I've tried playing GT2 (in a demo at Best Buy), but I just couldn't... everything was so friggin' pixelated that I couldn't tell where the car ended and where the scenery started! And it really does hurt to look at it...

BTW, with regards to the topic: Someone on GameFaqs once posted the exact specs for all of this stuff (break-in period, when you lose HP, etc.), but I'm not about to go searching through all of the junk there just to get that little bit of fairly unimportant info. ;)
 
Originally posted by Sage
Someone on GameFaqs once posted the exact specs for all of this stuff (break-in period, when you lose HP, etc.), but I'm not about to go searching through all of the junk there just to get that little bit of fairly unimportant info. ;)
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I did a search for the word "oil" in every FAQ on GameFaqs and didn't find this, and couldn't find anything on their forums, either. Nobody seems to have exact numbers. If you saw it somewhere, I think a lot of people would be happy if you could find it again...

I did figure out the exact numbers for HP. It's all based off the peak power of the car.

The max modifiers are exactly:
-5.0% = dirty oil
-3.0% = not broken in
-2.0% = old engine

So, when you get a car, it has a -5% dirty oil modifier and a -3% not broken in modifier. These are compounded, not added. The final number is calculated as:

(peak HP) / 1.03 / 1.05.

The only problem is that peak HP isn't an integer, but what you see displayed is rounded off, so it's hard to tell what the actual HP is.

For example, the Miata LS has 168.3 peak HP, so it shows up as:

168 HP broken in with oil change
163 HP new with oil change (168.3 / 1.03 = 163.4)
160 HP broken in with dirty oil (168.3 / 1.05 = 160.3)
156 HP new with dirty oil (168.3 / 1.03 / 1.05 = 155.6)

You also have to remember that the numbers the car dealer shows are often wrong and you have to buy it and check your garage to make sure.
 
Originally posted by milefile
GT3 starts off slower, that's for sure. Don't you just love the light filtering through the trees on Trial Mountain and Deep Forest? I remember that really impressed me when I first played it.
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I thought the same thing, too, though I never played GT2 at all. But once I was finishing up Beginner I realized money was no longer a problem, and I was starting to wish I hadn't sold a few of the prize cars I'd ditched.

It's too bad that the graphics on GT2 look so poor. I really really wanted to start out with a white Neon ACR sedan just like my real car.
 
Originally posted by kideng
How many sample is this based on?
kideng
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I had to do it with a limited number of samples, because I erased my 100% save game last week. I doubt it's necessary for me to post this, since you're no doubt working feverishly to prove me wrong ;)


Mazda MX-5 Miata LS: 168.3
168 HP broken in with oil change (peak)
163 HP new with oil change (168.3 / 1.03 = 163.4)
160 HP broken in with dirty oil (168.3 / 1.05 = 160.3)
156 HP new with dirty oil (168.3 / 1.03 / 1.05 = 155.6)

F094/S: 829.2
829 HP broken in with oil change (peak)
813 HP with old engine & clean oil (829.2 / 1.02 = 812.9)
790 HP broken in with dirty oil (829.2 / 1.05 = 789.7)

Vanquish: 471.0
471 HP broken in with oil change (peak)
449 HP broken in with dirty oil (471.0 / 1.05 = 448.6)

Nissan Z Concept: 287.0
287 HP broken in with oil change (peak)
273 HP broken in with dirty oil (287.0 / 1.05 = 273.3)

Mazda RX-8: 295.0
295 HP broken in with oil change (peak)
281 HP broken in with dirty oil (295.0 / 1.05 = 281.0)
 
Nope. I've been working feverishly to get all those fricking CPU cars from replays exported and then imported into a garage so I can see how many HP and what kind of tires they have (And thanks to Famine for literally cutting my workload in half). :p Coming soon to the GT3 db. ::shameless advertisement::
kideng
 
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