LP670 has unrealistic grip, no wheel spin

[TwinturboCH]

then why dont you post a better more legitimate definition instead of just adding your own....you want to use whatever fits your argument from wiki and discard the rest....even in that definition it states that NASCAR racers gently pull up nose first to the outside wall and then use it to hold the car still while smoking the tires.....your definition pretty much says YOU HAVE TO USE THE BRAKES.... damn this is old

YOU were the one who quoted wiki, not us. What we are saying is that 90% of that article is correct, but one paragraph contradicts the entire rest of the article and is completely wrong.
Yes it says that about NASCAR, but if you did that in a 4wd car you'd be looking at a huge damage bill, that isn't a burnout, it's a crash LOL
Unless you are going to rest your car against a wall and do it the YES you DO have to use the breaks, damn this is old....

 

[Denilson]

then why dont you post a better more legitimate definition instead of just adding your own....you want to use whatever fits your argument from wiki and discard the rest....even in that definition it states that NASCAR racers gently pull up nose first to the outside wall and then use it to hold the car still while smoking the tires.....your definition pretty much says YOU HAVE TO USE THE BRAKES.... damn this is old

What you are refering to is 99,9 % correct. The problem is that the whriter did a try to explain how a bournout for 4WD cars are performed, and you taking hes weak try as a proof that it can be done in the same way as he did explain about the FWD's and RWD's.

I did never use anything from wikipedia exept the site you refered to... I know what I'm talking about so I do not need to refer to sites with misleading facts.

I guess it all comes down to decide what a bornout is. If you think it's wheelspin, then you are correct about 4WD can perform bournouts. I do not think that wheelspin is a bournout, so in my book it can not be done with a
4WD car.

If not, then plz tell me how to keep a 4WD car to a standstill (or almost) for, lets say 2 minutes with spinning tires. I know it easaly can be done in a RWD.. But i doubt you could do it in a 4WD.. But if you can, plz, I'm all ears..

 

[RC45]

If you go back to page one you will see that, in fact, I merely made a statement and then you and another user decided to start the personal attacks. The american thing was just a seriously poor attempt at humour (unlike the swimming in treacle one, which I thought was quite well thought out LOL), but whatever.



I simply said that I drive for a living and therefore have a fair amount of experience, youa re the only one who has made a huge issue out of it, not me. I have tried to say, several times, that my experience is irrelevant with regard to burnout skill, it merely demonstrates I'm not some random 12 year old spouting rubbish.



This is the whole point of the thread and, really, the only one of any relevance, as we have jsut established, overpowering the tyres is simply wheelspin, a 'burnout' required use of the brakes, which is impossible in 4wd. Why is it so hard to stay on topic?



Errrr, yeah, they'll spin the wheels, that doesn't make it a burnout.



Another example of you reading something that is not there. Where did I say I was a trained physicist? Nowhere. I STUDIED physics. It's a fairly enormous difference.



Errr, no, you need the brakes to hold the car stationary. The idea of a burnout is to build heat into the tyre to increase grip during standing starts, that is it's one and only true purpose.I've asked before, and I'll ask again, please explain how the momentary wheelspin of a 4wd car will perform that task?



Who knows, I don't really care how they react, but when someone says I'm wrong, when I know I'm right, I stand my ground. The fact you wouldn't listen to reason wound me up slightly, and allas my integrity has now suffered, the fact is, I haven't made an incorrect statement regarding the subject of burnouts, and you don't seem to be able to accept that.



Professional - definition: following an occupation as a means of livelihood or for gain
Drifter - definition: a person or thing that drifts

Fairly self explanatory really. LOL

In all your trolling drivel just because wikipedia says you ahev to have th ebrake engaged to do a burnout, doesnt mean you have to. I t is quit epossible to get the driving tyres so hot they then lose all manner of grip and will not be driving the car forward as long as the wheels are under power.

They will conitnue to spin and spin and spin even if you let go of the brakes. The brakes are an assistance to get a car that has excessive grip under ordinary circumstances to sping the tyres up and not push the car forward out of the burnout box.

In fact - you steer you car so that the rear tyres go into the water bath at a dragstrip so you can spin the tyres easily and then you ROLL forward slighty to clear the waterbox will doing the BURNOUT and heat the tyres up. No need to stay stationary for it to be a burnout.

Again, you would stop the burnout after a few seconds because the tyres will beup to temp - any more burnout and you boil them off.

So, in that context even a rolling burnout, is a burnout - as demonstrated here by an AWD Sonoma.

http://highperformancetrucks.com.streetfire.net/toprated/21/57e268c1-07d5-4178-b141-9cf7010a4f73.htm

There are also numerous videos of people doing staionary burnouts being held back by ropes, chains and the like - seems to me if you are going to require that FWD or RWD cars use their brakes to perform a bunrout then a rope/chain etc is also required for an AWD burnout.

One seesm to come away from this thread with the impression YOU believe that no-one else on the planet has any knowledge or experience similar to yours.

Very poor assumption there mate. Some of us have been around a long time and done an aweful lot of different things and just because we dont spew the wiki-explanaiton you want to hear doesn mean we dont knwo the details, it just means we have already forgotten them - they wheren't that important in the grand scheme of things called life.

 

[sdstig]

Never tried to burn it out, but I've never really had too many problems trying to slide it a little. I've never gotten it too sideways though. I mean the Murcielago SV is a pretty grippy car, whichever way you point it, it goes. It's just a bit difficult to drive sometimes

 

[RC45]

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Yes! You need something to counteract the grip to perform a bournout.. A tree would work

Or a rope. PD should put a rope/chain option int he GT AutoCenter.

That way you buy the rope/chain and take your LP670 out and do this

 

[LS2_PONTIAC_GTO]

4 WHEEL DRIVE BURNOUT according to your definitions!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsilQtepsUg

 

[niky]

This topic has taken a few turns for the worse.