Manual shifting

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I started on manual, so I a had a slow car (Mazda deimo sport) then worked up to my tuned civic, and then more and more. Sure it would of helped looking at the cars power band, but at the place you are at now, do what I did. It's better for newbs to get the just of manual shifting then you learning all the really important
 
lozzy1234567890
So what do you do if you are like me and deaf, so you cannot hear the engine revs so well? just looking at the tach just makes me distracted and ends up me plowing into the barriers.
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Well ... you have to find a way to overcome this obstacle. For instance you can adjust gear ratios so you can be more ... let's say prepared for a particular corner even if you don't hear the sound of the engine (for example you know that corner A is taken with your setup in 5th gear nontheless - 6th gear will drive the car out of the road, 4th will make the car go slower).
That's what I can think of. :dopey:
 
I used auto gears for every Gran Turismo game from GT1 to GT4. I only switched to manual in GT5P to do the Capuchino timed lap around HSR event. I couldn't Gold it in auto so I reconfigured my joypad to put the gear shifts where I wanted them and got practicing. By the time I hit Gold in the event I'd got the hang of it. I then switched back to auto for the rest of the game until I bought a DFGT. At this point I went straight to manual gears and wouldn't touch anything else now.
 
Yeah I just got the dfgt and now I'm online racing i need to use manual so I'm gonna practice practice practice so ty everyone for your tips and info I have learnt alot :)
 
Gik69
Yeah I just got the dfgt and now I'm online racing i need to use manual so I'm gonna practice practice practice so ty everyone for your tips and info I have learnt alot :)
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Been doing some practice and boy I'm beating my laptimes already cheers boys
 
zodicus
yep i use my ears, just like i do in my real life car. As mentioned before it's not always optimum to wait til redline either. Take the 440 'cuda for example; look at is power curve in the tuning screen. If you wait till redline you're costing yourself a ton of power. Also when using the power limiter it can be helpful to shift early. The torque will be higher in the lower revs and the HP will be the same because of the wonky way they did it.

Its funny they did it that way as HP doesn't mean much, HP is just a result of a calculation. torque X RPM / 5252 = HP
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Conversely, torque is just the result of a calculation: Torque = 5252 * HP / RPM

You can run that equation either way. It's meaningless to say that either torque or HP is simply "the result of a calculation".

Also, while torque does provide a stronger feel from the ol' "butt dyno", the fact is that it's better to make HP and take advantage of gearing.
 
Most corners are best taken in a certain gear once you commit a track to memory and know the sound of the gears a quick glance occasionally is all you will need. Its well worth learning and has made me want to drive allot more!!
 
ucwepn
Most corners are best taken in a certain gear once you commit a track to memory and know the sound of the gears a quick glance occasionally is all you will need. Its well worth learning and has made me want to drive allot more!!
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It defo makes the racing alot more fun I was on last night practicing for 4 hrs I'm getting the hang of it but still need practice manual is the way forward for online racing
 
manual is an absolute must if you want to be fast, i have people with the same cars that can't keep up with me only to find out they're using automatic, whereas with manual you can always keep it in that sweet spot on the powerband, it's subtle but it helps your car pull more out of corners
 
Spagetti69
We all know real race drivers drive automatics, don't they?
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Don't know what real racing you watch but all racers use manual mate
 
Actually F1 did have auto gears during the electronic assistance era and a lot of modern racing categories now use semi-auto gears.
 
Guys, i think we should keep this in mind:

real life: paddle shift (or sequential) gear box and manual gear box are totally different. Purists always hope for a manual gear box (clutch + gear lever) and so do i. But i must admit that paddle shift gear box (458 Italia, SLR...) allows faster lap times.

GT5 and other racing sims: manual gearbox and sequential gearbox are basically the same thing, especially if you use a controller.

So in my opinion, in GT5 you can clearly go faster using the manual..

About using the engine note to change gears, i think the red LED on the rev counter can be helpful. I my self use it sometimes when i'm obliged to turn off the sound. It is particularly helpful with bonnet camera and it helps you keep your eyes on the track.
 
Gik69
Why would real race drivers use autos?
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I miss how you could gain an advantage by using a clutch in GTP. The feature seemed to have disappeared in 5.
 
I could see where given the right sercumstances a well designed auto could be an advantage. However the "automatic" in GT is not a automatic transmisson, its a manual automatically shifted.
 
I find it extremely easy.....I listen to the engines pitch.......I will say it's kinda tough racing the x2010 with a muted tv on a small track -_- running on the limiter the whole time...
 
If I am racing a new or random car for the first time I rev the engine before the start upto the redline. Listen to the sound and shift just before it reaches that point. The red light on the HUD is also very useful if there is a lot of noise (e.g. people online on mics)
 
You can still be quick with an automatic provided the car is tuned to run to redline. In a muscle car though, you often shift early to take advantage of low end torque. There are other cases where shifting manually can make you faster but overall a clean driver who knows what speed to take turns and when to brake will be faster in an automatic than a sloppy driver in a manual.

Start with slower cars and work your way up.
 
Zenmervolt
Conversely, torque is just the result of a calculation: Torque = 5252 * HP / RPM

You can run that equation either way. It's meaningless to say that either torque or HP is simply "the result of a calculation".

Also, while torque does provide a stronger feel from the ol' "butt dyno", the fact is that it's better to make HP and take advantage of gearing.
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I've heard it described this way: torque will get you there quicker. HP will get you to a higher top speed. So if you have 100 HP and 200 Torque vs 200 HP and 100 torque example one will have a lower top speed, but 0-60, 0-100 and 0-top speed will be quicker than example two. However if you're running a high speed track like Daytona or Le Sarthe you will probably do better with the high HP as opposed to short tight tracks where acceleration is king.

And those paddle shifters on race cars are absolutely incredible . . . compared to the paddle shifters on my TL Type-S ;) Even my Audi Allroad had a manual mode . . . to an automatic transmission and it's not an auto clutch like the high end and race cars have.
 

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