Microsoft Reveals Next-Gen Console: "Xbox Series X"

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  1. McLaren

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    Not a chance. Wherever that figure came from, someone pulled that out of their ass. Probably priced all the revealed parts and thought as if Microsoft would pass full retail price of everything back onto the consumer....

    Any game console advertising over $1500 can kiss itself goodbye. Here's some actual links with projected pricing.
    https://www.gamesradar.com/xbox-series-x-price-bundle-deals/

    https://www.techradar.com/deals/xbox-series-x-price-deals-sales-bundles
     
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  2. inCloud

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  3. VXR

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    This thing sounds like an absolute juggernaut.
     
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  4. Doomotron

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    If this thing has the rumoured Windows mode I'll have to get it before the PS5... Train Simulator needs the Xbox...
     
  5. TokoTurismo

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    Ahhh man! This is sounding to be really big! :D

    May is definitely the perfect month for MS to start unveiling stuff - The Xbox Series X & S, the games, etc. Let's go baby!!!
     
  6. Mr Grumpy

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    My bank overdraft is ready :)
    My credit card is ready :)
    My kidneys are ready :lol:
     
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  7. Robin

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    Microsoft has patented what is supposedly the console's logo, hats off to them for realising a new generation should really have a new logo or type font, ahem, Sony.
    [​IMG]

    edit, tree'd in its own thread.
     
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  8. inCloud

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    Main question is "is it good at ray tracing?"
    2080ti isn't all that powerful without RT
     
  9. Slapped

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    I wouldn't hold your breath on ray-tracing. Currently the only game fully ray-traced game is the Quake 2 RTX demo. This is a 23 year old game which apart from the inclusion of the RTX api is as it was 23 years ago, including assets, and it's barely breaking 60fps at 1080p on the highest end RTX cards.

    Sure the devs can apply ray-tracing selectively to various parts of the scene, but for difference it makes you might as well leave it off and get the FPS back.

    Ray-tracing is an incredibly inefficient rendering method, and the many many years of progress the industry has made in developing efficient and very effective non-raytracing shaders means that raytracing comes at an extreme cost in terms computing resources for what is ultimately a very small improvement.

    Not only is ray-tracing heavy on computing resources, it's also heavy on manpower resources as well. For ray-tracing to be effective then the materials used in assets need to be bang-on otherwise they will look "wrong", and in fact for many materials ray-tracing doesn't actually produce any improvement whatsoever.

    Sure lighting and shadows are going to be the obvious improvements that ray-tracing will bring, but with the current level of technology you're going to find that it's not viable to use in gaming.

    I'd say that it's going to take at least 10 years of further GPU development before a triple A title of today will be able to be fully rendered via ray-tracing at 1080p 60FPS.
     
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  10. inCloud

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    It would be industry standard in few years and will be main selling point for nextgen in crossgen titles. Some studios, like 4A already talking about dropping non-RT rendering.

    Whos talking about "fully ray-traced games"?
     
  11. Nexus

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    Weren't Crytek able to achieve a form of ray tracing with a Vega 56? Perhaps instead of full-fat ray tracing, developers would use methods that were used in Crytek's Neon Noir demo.
     
  12. inCloud

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    Nvidia cards without tensor cores already can be used for RT, but its not efficient. Most likely, all gaming GPUs since next year will have hardware RT blocks or hybrids.
     
  13. Saidur_Ali

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    First look next-gen gameplay from global developers partners within Inside Xbox on Thursday, May 7 at 4pm BST, 8am PT.

     
  14. Lukanyon

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    Forza 8! Forza 8!! FORZA EIGHT!!!
     
  15. FT-1

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    Hold your horses

    So yeah, next week's event is for third-party titles only.
     
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  16. Lukanyon

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    Oh :censored:


    :(
     
  17. Robin

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    I think the new Series X Optimized badge is going to cause so much confusion. Can't they just do Series X only games?

    [​IMG]
     
  18. FT-1

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    I think a different problem could arise when Lockhart makes its debut, especially if there is talk about it being called the Series S. I reckon Lockhart will be called "Series X Lite" to minimize confusion.
     
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  19. Robin

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    These game boxes are going to carry several logos,

    Xbox One X Enhanced, Xbox Series X Optimised, Xbox One & Xbox Series S Compatible :lol:

    Grandma.jpg
     
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  20. FoRiZon

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    There are rumours that theres another cheaper variant called "Series S".

    So "Optimized for Series X" is indeed appropriate.
     
  21. Jtheripper

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    How did you get a hold of my pic?:lol::D
     
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  22. FT-1

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    Microsoft outlines Backwards Compatibility plans, including system-level HDR, 4K upscaling and framerate boosts up to 120fps.



    Also...

    *Creates dozens of Microsoft accounts to request backwards compatibility for the Project Gotham Racing Series*
     
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  23. MrCrynox

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    Yeeeeesssss. :cheers: It's theirs anyway so why isn't it here already....grrr.

    Edit: things are looking great for back compat ! Xbox for the win !! :)
     
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  24. Robin

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    I really admire MS's commitment to not only offering amazing BC but in keeping on improving it.
     
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  25. MrCrynox

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    Me too. And it really is superb, I'm playing through the original Splinter Cell games and what they have done makes it even more amazing.
     
  26. GroupB

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    The PGR games have zero chance of returning. MS purposely buried the series so as not to compete with the Forza brand. I doubt their view on that will suddenly do a 180.
     
  27. ImaRobot

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    Doesn't have much to do with the fact that it's backwards compatible or not. It's a game that's already been resurrected to work on current gen.
     
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  28. GroupB

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    I was referring to backwards compatibility. I’m not aware of MS resurrecting any PGR game for use on the current gen.
     
  29. ImaRobot

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    Well then you should look it up. I wasn’t confused as to what you were referring to, that’s why I commented.
     
  30. GroupB

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    I checked before. There is no recent news about PGR anywhere. It’s all from years ago.