MotoGP (125, 250, MotoGP) 2009 Thread

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I just heard on the TV that some of them use traction control to stop the bikes wobbling around and stuff
I dunno if Stoner is one of them though 👍
 
I just heard on the TV that some of them use traction control to stop the bikes wobbling around and stuff
I dunno if Stoner is one of them though 👍

All of the riders do. The Ducati has pretty much been developed around Stoners riding style so it's no wonder he can ride it well. I'm looking forward to Rossi-Stoner last lap battles.

Rossi seems to be able to keep with the Ducati much better than last season so hopefully we'll get to enjoy some intense passing battles!
 
I saw a highlight package from MotoGP's YouTube channel ( http://www.youtube.com/MotoGP ). It was pretty crazy to imagine pounding rain under the lights, let alone a rainy day in the desert. Racing in the rain on a motorcycle is INFINITELY more difficult than in an enclosed car. You don't have the luxury of windshield wipers and such to help you see better in the dark. Add darkness to the mix, and you're looking at a disaster waiting to happen. Congratulations to the winner of the MotoGP World Championship race. Also, congratulations to the 125cc and 250cc winners at Losail.

First race in the books. Game on!
 
Watching the Ducatis over the years I've always wondered how anybody rides them! I remember them wiggling, wobbling, sliding, shaking, and everything else all the time, way more than anything else. Yet Stoner seems so smooth on it!

Even Stoner was wiggling last year, but this year's bike seems much more "docile" - it was only wiggling for him when Rossi picked up the pace and started slashing the gap.


As for traction-control: In cars, a really good driver will not really need it - F1 drivers can lap at almost exactly the same pace as without it. On the bikes, however, it really allows them to push the envelope further - they all use it. It was interesting to see Pedrosa's bike, though: His TC seems extra intrusive, and the bike was very stable. In comparison, Stoner looks like his system only stops the wheels after a bit of slip..
 
Yeah, Stoner either has an incredibly good feel for the bike, or he's just massively strong enough to wrestle it into submission. I'm not sure which! It looks much different with him on it than anybody else.

I'd been looking forward to seeing Nicky, but now we have to wait for some patching up to get him to 100%.
 
Stoner has always had a bike that slips and slides a bit because that's what he learned on. If you go through the field and pick which riders slide the rear more often I'll bet they all started on dirt bikes.
 
Stoner has always had a bike that slips and slides a bit because that's what he learned on. If you go through the field and pick which riders slide the rear more often I'll bet they all started on dirt bikes.

I agree, with Rossi being the odd one out. Started on dirt bikes, but smooth as you like. Most of the time, anyway!
 
Just wait until Kallio settles in.. :sly: Stoner will have his hands full then
 
Hmm.. don't know about Mika, he's the next best on the Ducati but looking at where he placed there's some fast riders close behind.

I thought Marco did really well to get some points, I reckon if he didn't go off he would probably have been in the top 10. I just wish Nicky had of taken Dani before the end (no favouritism obviously!).
 
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Brilliant race on the weekend, the way Rossi can just hunt down guys on the track with awesome consistency and pace, then pass them when he needs to.. not to mention how many times their overnight changes really turn aorund a poor qualify into great race pace. So many times he wins from 2nd row or further back.

Also great to see Pedrosa up front again, this season will be crazy. 4guys looking really strong with 2 -3 others looking to be strong at one point or another.
 
If only Jorge kept it together... He had a good run last year until, as Blake put it, "he went on with systematically breaking every bone in his body". Rossi is an effin' machine - so perfectly calculated, smooth, fast and with nerves of unobtainium.

The 250cc race was also fantastic, with a four-way battle for the lead, thinning down to a battle between Batista and Aoyama in the final laps - passing and re-passing each other all the way into the final corner, where Batista made a brilliant defence, but couldn't make it stick.
 
Yes, its amazing how he can ride so hard and so much at the limit and over the countless years, he has barely made any errors. I can only think of about 2, when he fell over in 2006 and then when he hit melandri? or was it caparossi? at motegi. Not bad for many years racing.
 
Thought todays race was pretty good. Congrats to Marco for 2nd place and damn, hated it at first but now I want one of them lorenzo's land flags!

What was up with Stoner's bike as well?
 
Yes, its amazing how he can ride so hard and so much at the limit and over the countless years, he has barely made any errors.

And how. :lol:
 
Thought todays race was pretty good. Congrats to Marco for 2nd place and damn, hated it at first but now I want one of them lorenzo's land flags!

What was up with Stoner's bike as well?


Good to see the Kawasaki performing and getting results.


I thought he(Stoner) just missed a gear, but the comentary seemed to think he was looking at the front end:odd::confused:
 
Amazing to see Melandri that high up. He rode the wheels off that Hayate, and got what both he and Kawasakie deserve after suffering so much in 2008.

Also, Stoner says he had a problem with his steering-damper on the dry bike:

Casey Stoner
Then when I switched over my other bike had a problem with the steering damper and after four laps I had to take my hand off the gas coming down the straight to fix it. After that I felt much better, the bike was more comfortable and I was able to ride to my limit.

Best race of the season so far? Seems like it.
 
It was an excellent GP race, unlike the fairly so-so 125cc and 250cc races. Big shame about Rossi, a rare, but huge mistake. Great to see Jorge riding away and Pedrosa and Melandri coming back strongly.

Anyone else find the Rossi-Gibernau thing weird?

Rossi vowed that Gibernau would never finish in front of him in a race. Gibernau out of the race with injury, and Rossi falling back hard. Is the Rossi 'curse' really in effect?!
 
I didn't get to see that race at the Bugatti Circuit. Congratulations to the winner of the World Championship race, including the winners in 125cc and 250cc.
 
Any thoughts on todays race..? I thought todays race was probably the most competitive in a long time. So many changes of position up front and some great rides from pretty much everyone. Stand out rides for me were James Toseland and obviously Lorenzo!! Still can't believe he finished second after the start he had.

They should really sort Stoners bike out as well.
 
Last lap of the 250cc was fantastic...

MotoGP race was good too, pity it didn't start to drizzle at the end... those who had mediums on when it was dry showed through.
 
Ah I missed the 250 race. I heard Simoncelli nearly took someone out though! As for the 125 race, I'm not surprised Bradley Smith won, I watched the qualifying and he was on another level compared to the other guys.
 
Jesus christ, that was good racing this weekend. I only watched the 800cc race now - finals in the way - but got the 250cc race with minimal delay, so I stayed out of the threads to keep the surprise going.

2500cc race was the stuff of legends. Epic, epic epic race. I actually heard my heart thumping during the last laps... I wrote a short summary for a mate's motorsports blog, so I won't bother writing again, so:

Bautista, Pasini and Simoncelli delivered a spectacular race and rode brilliantly in the difficult conditions: They were so dominant that even when two of them went off the track (Bautista lost 11 seconds in the process), the retained their positions. Between them, the Italian-Spanish feud continued as the championship-leading Alvaro battled the two local riders, and the trio fought hard until the very last lap.

Eventually, the race was won by Pasini, whose last race victory came on his debut, at the 2008 Qatar race. Pasini spent the first half of the race riding behind Bautista and Simoncelli, who fought hard for the lead, biding his time and waiting to make good use of any mistakes. And soon, the came. On one particular corner, the duo managed to hit the same patch of standing water, creating a pretty display of synchronized fishtailing. Shortly after, however, the mistake arrived:

Bautista's charge may have managed to eradicate the Italian's early lead, but after taking the lead for himself, he failed to build a gap. Soon, Simonelli tried to take back the lead - with a brave dive down the inside of Bautista. He, however, was already in the turn, and the duo clashed, taking a wide trip into the gravel. By sheer luck, neither fell off, and Simoncelli even managed to get back on the track within a radius of mere metres from the point they went off. Pasini, who was stalking them a second behind, seized the opportunity and gained the lead.
With the front three - Pasini, followed by Simoncelli five seconds back and Bautista a further six seconds adrift - rode in a class of their own, and so they soon came up on backmarkers struggling in the pouring rain. Bautista, the enraged Spaniard determined to pass his aggressor, sliced through them without mercy, and was soon back on the tail of his rival: But a way past was hard to find. In his efforts to regain the position, he lost control of his rear and nearly highsided the bike, yet somehow managed to keep the bike pointing in the right direction. This appeared to have calmed him down, and reminded him that the championship is a more important than another victory, much to the relief of his team boss, Aspar, who spent the entire race attempting to calm his rider down.

Simoncelli, therefore, was left to chase the pink-liveried Aprillia of Pasini. Two laps from the end, they were nose-to-tail again, and over the start-finish straight, the Gilera's massive straight-line advantage gained Simoncelli the lead. For the next lap, the two local heroes fought with amazing skill and courage, as time and time again Simoncelli gained the lead, while Pasini snuck back in front as his rival ran wide on the entrances. Chasing each other, the lead changed at least four times, and on the penultimate corner, Pasini gained the lead and held it.


The 800cc MotoGP race was also very, very tight. Jorge Lorenzo crashed on his sighting lap, switched the Dry bike to wet tyres in time for the start - but lost it all as the lights went out. He reacted perfectly, but the settings were wrong for the weather and he spun his tyres, dropping to last. Stoner also lost many positions. Dovi, Pedrosa, Melandri, Vermeulen and Rossi got away very nicely, and that uber-tight pack duked it out for much of the race. Amazingly, Melandri even passed Rossi for the lead and opened a nice gap for himself, but then came the time to switch tyres - and what looked like a slow warmup lap became simply slow pace on the Slicks (he ended up 11th). Vermeulen also dropped off on the switch, but Stoner and Lorenzo, who were behind the Rossi-Melandri-Dovi-Pedrosa pack, came back to life.

Capirossi, also at the sharp end, ultimately lost out because of the Suzuki's top-speed disadvantage, but he was highly competitive - both Suzukis were. Stoner used the Suzuki to build a small gap, and behind Loris, positions shuffled as Lorenzo, ahead of his teammate, got the better of Dovi. Pedrosa suffered an awful crash (again)... So, in the end, Stoner won (WOO!) ahead of Lorenzo (Woo!) with Rossi just third (considering his previous rides here..). Fantastic weekend.


Also, Pedrosa's crash didn't aggravate anything, luckily, but he's got enough to cope with as it is..
 
Did anyone see the 125cc Catalunya race, it was a bizarre but strange way to finish a good race.

Without giving away too many spoilers one of the drivers about to cross the line starting the final lap and celebrates victory in the Catalunya 125cc MotoGP race, but there is still one lap to go. You got to watch the video to see what happened next and it does not end there, final lap drama also happens.

Anyway clip can be viewed via the link below

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/motorbikes/8099343.stm

Oh you can view the clip in the UK, it is not available outside.
 
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damn unavailable in my territory.
 
Best Final Lap EVAH!!

Rossi and Lorenzo are so so talented.
 
WOW, that is all. Nearly stopped shaking from excitement now. :crazy:

Rossi is THE man. :bowdown:
 
WOW, that is all. Nearly stopped shaking from excitement now. :crazy:

Rossi is THE man. :bowdown:

YEEAAAHHHH!!!....he is our hero for life mate...wow what a race,what a brilliant last lap!!!

Vale for life:tup:👍👍




spyrrari.(who is going to watch this race a couple more times...)
 
What a season, 6 races 106 points each for the top three.

Awesome finish to a great Spanish Grand Prix.👍
 
Rossi is an absolute God! Great move in the last corner. Lorenzo clearly was willing to get closer to Rossi than vice versa looking at the start & end of the lap.
 
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