Mustang's car search thread - IT'S OVER!

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The GNX is the last I can think of.

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The Roadmaster is sad that you forgot it...
 
OH! Flaw to your measurements. 100KM=62 Miles. 4L=3.6Gal. That's 17.2 mpg

I have tables in front of me that tell me mpg=282.48 / Litres/100km
Alternatively, 10L=2.2gallons. 100km=62miles as you said.
So that means that my getting 10L/100km does indeed mean 28.2mpg. I get good fuel economy, and my brother's car has the same engine, enough power and torque to beat Holden 5.0Ls and he gets around 35mpg. He simply has a better tune and parts than I do at the moment. Plus I'm just a little heavy footed. I don't know where you got the 4L part from but my figure was correct, I get 28.2mpg out of a Buick V6 making 135kw and around 300Nm torque. So that Roadmaster...........;)
 
Fastest piece of rust ever made.

But, you know you'd love to have one. :D

Have you thought of one of the last RWD GM Intermediates? They came in a few flavors... (Monte Carlo, Grand Prix, Regal, Cutlass) Or are they too old? (Last ones in '87)

80's Monte Carlo FTW!

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GOD that's a sexy car.
 
I have tables in front of me that tell me mpg=282.48 / Litres/100km
Alternatively, 10L=2.2gallons. 100km=62miles as you said.
So that means that my getting 10L/100km does indeed mean 28.2mpg. I get good fuel economy, and my brother's car has the same engine, enough power and torque to beat Holden 5.0Ls and he gets around 35mpg. He simply has a better tune and parts than I do at the moment. Plus I'm just a little heavy footed. I don't know where you got the 4L part from but my figure was correct, I get 28.2mpg out of a Buick V6 making 135kw and around 300Nm torque. So that Roadmaster...........;)

I'll go smallest units on you.

1 Litre= 0.9 Gallons
1KM= 0.62 miles

This sounds very wrong, but I'm sayin it.
It appears that your 10L/100KM is 9 gallons for 62 miles, or a little south of 7 MPG. But that CAN'T be right!


EDIT: nevermind, Liter= .26 gallons. Goes to show, never trust the measurements on a toilet :dunce:
 
Here is the problem... You guys are converting from Metric to Imperial, and its important to realize that the 28.2 MPG figure you're getting is not what you would see in the United States, rather, what you would get in the UK.

Given that a US gallon is roughly 80% the size of a UK (Imperial) gallon, that equals out to a much more realistic 22.56 US Miles Per Gallon.
 
Do Americans do anything right?? Convert to metric you ancient civilisation you. :sly: Keep in mind that's combined fuel, my highway rating is supposed to be around 7L/100km. That's factory, I can make it better.;)
So how much is the Roadmaster, seriously?
 
Okay.

Bear with me here. I'll pull a Jim Prower and start preaching to the school for deaf on what car you should get. ...;)

W201.

SERIOUSLY.

Pros:

Easily had with a manual
Four cylinder or six cylinder (20-28 miles per gallon, or more)
Seats five
Rear-drive
CHEAP. Between $1500 and $5000, at least in my area.
Nearly indestructible.
Insurance wouldn't be too bad.
It's not Japanese. That seems to be one of your criteria, no matter how utterly illogical that criterion is.

Cons:
When stuff breaks, its Germanness makes parts expensive
See above.
See point #1
Not the best in snow

Or go for the AE82 Nova. Given what you've posted, I think it's a fit. It has a Chevy badge, and it can be had with a 3 speed auto! a GM trademark!

It's actually Japanese. Jim, no offense meant. I suggest old mercedes products religiously.:dopey:
 
JCE
*points lovingly to his Camaro*

YES THEY CAN!

Oh yeah, I temporarily forgot about their cars :D But seriously, get your measurements right.

PS- I think that not having a Japanese car is a perfect criterion, it'd be one of mine too. For one they are torquless gutless things, two, half of them are so cheap they fall apart too easily. Three, what's wrong with a little patriotic pride?
 
Hey now, I like my non-metric system! Not to mention if I changed now, I would not be able to judge dimensions without a ruler/tape measure to save my life! Heck I can barely judge them in the system I use now :lol:
 
I would second the vote for a 201 chassis, if you get a 190E 2.6 you would have a very smooth and fast car 👍
 
Mercedes? They don't seem to..first car friendly. It'll be a while before I can test out a VTEC Lude or maybe even an RX-7, so I still hold little hope for japan.

Why can't the Solstice/Skye be in my range!!???

Guys, are Miata's any good?
 
Mercedes? They don't seem to..first car friendly. It'll be a while before I can test out a VTEC Lude or maybe even an RX-7, so I still hold little hope for japan.

Why can't the Solstice/Skye be in my range!!???

Guys, are Miata's any good?

miatas are good, but older mercedes are a great first car if you want to learn since they are relatively easy and even fairly cheap to work on. Plus the reliability factor means you shouldn't have to spend too much as long as you get one thats properly sorted in the first place.
 
miatas are good, but older mercedes are a great first car if you want to learn since they are relatively easy and even fairly cheap to work on. Plus the reliability factor means you shouldn't have to spend too much as long as you get one thats properly sorted in the first place.

👍👍

An M103 will not die. period.

Like PB said, buy a parts car for cheap. problem solved. You've got a mule to pilfer stuff from.

Miatas are good fun, but I'd guess the insurance would be a little high. At least you're considering Japanese stuff, that's a nice change. A Miata would absolutely suck in the winter.

Either one would be a good choice.
 
The 1.6 is probably in my range. I like them, and the close ratio sounds good. Just sounds slow though.

Saw a car for sale today, Don't know the price, but it appeared to be an NA Savanna RX-7. Do those hold their value or lose it? And what kinda mileage do they get?

And, I live in florida, there is no winter here.
 
I think that not having a Japanese car is a perfect criterion, it'd be one of mine too. For one they are torquless gutless things, two, half of them are so cheap they fall apart too easily.

What world are you living in?

Top two manufacturers in the UK (with around 10 vehicles per 100 spending a day being repaired per year) are Honda and Mazda. They switch places periodically, but they're the top two. Next in the list? Toyota, Subaru, MINI, Nissan and Lexus. Yep, all of the Japanese manufacturers are in the top 7 for reliability - with only MINI getting in on the party. And, before we get any deeper in, this covers the entire catalogue of cars available since the manufacturer started selling cars in the UK.

So cheap they fall apart?


Now for "torqueless gutless things"... Subaru scarcely makes a car without a turbocharger on it. Fast Nissans are all turbocharged. Lexus - V8s out the wazoo. Toyota don't make anything interesting any more, but when they did - turbocharged ST205 GT4, turbocharged Supra. This leaves us with Honda and Mazda. Well... Mazda made the turbocharged RX-7 and currently include the Mazdaspeed 3 and 6 (264hp/280lbft each in EU spec). Honda are quite famed for the VTEC/iVTEC engines which aren't the torqueist of mills, but...

A gearbox is a torque multiplication device, and it's torque at the wheels that counts. It's wholly possible for your "torqueless gutless" Honda engine to pull wheel torques higher than a large, lazy V8 in the same gear.


So we've now established that Japanese cars aren't largely torqueless (even if that matters) and aren't cheap, flimsy and unreliable.

Which leaves:


Three, what's wrong with a little patriotic pride?

If you're willing to buy rubbish because it has your flag on it, don't be surprised if everything with your flag on it turns out to be rubbish.
 
If you're willing to buy rubbish because it has your flag on it, don't be surprised if everything with your flag on it turns out to be rubbish.

I love american cars/trucks. They are not rubbish. But I'm not a fanboy and I can accept that some cars are better than american cars. But, lets see a foreign company make a pickup to even compete well with the Silverado and F150.
 
Nobody said they were.



Toyota Tacoma. Nissan Navara. Job jobbed.

Navara? Never heard of it.
Tacoma? Competes with the Ford Ranger and the Chevy Colorado.

Tundras don't sell near enough to touch the F150.
 
Navara? Never heard of it.

Huge thing. Open back.

Tacoma? Competes with the Ford Ranger and the Chevy Colorado.

Tundras don't sell near enough to touch the F150.

The Tundra is, I believe, MotorTrend's current Truck of the Year...

I believe you said "compete well with". Taking awards from seems to fit that bill.


Not wholly sure why we're talking about pick-up trucks right now though.
 
I believe you said "compete well with". Taking awards from seems to fit that bill.
Not to interrupt, but the Tundra didn't really compete with any of the big name American trucks that year, simply because the way the Motor Trend otY awards are designed.
 
Huge thing. Open back.



The Tundra is, I believe, MotorTrend's current Truck of the Year...

I believe you said "compete well with". Taking awards from seems to fit that bill.


Not wholly sure why we're talking about pick-up trucks right now though.

Touche. But the F150 is still the best selling truck in America, 31 years running.

(cheap lie to seem on topic)We're talking about them because they are an option for me. V8 F150/Silverado with some straight pipes=heaven in your ears. And still touting a nice 17-18mpg city/21-22mpg highway for what they are.
 
Anyways, the Silverado is Car and Driver's truck of the year, and I trust them over Motor Trend...
 
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